Re: PPIG discuss: Documentation for large systems

2007-11-06 Thread Derek M Jones
through doxygen, the results are not that useful, but it is very cheap. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: When agile goes bad....

2007-10-12 Thread Derek M Jones
Systems Anderson School of Management University of New Mexico [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: SV: PPIG discuss: Programmer education argument-starter of the week

2007-06-24 Thread Derek M Jones
are great teachers and can infuse the necessary skills in the most incompetent of students. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Need some help to find more Literatures on Programmer Cognition

2007-04-19 Thread Derek M Jones
. How to study programmer cognition. I guess you have to isolate the part of cognition you want to study (from factors that might interfere) using some suitably designed experiment and hopefully get some results that backup your theory. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0

Re: PPIG discuss: Hello / how we debug

2007-01-03 Thread Derek M Jones
% of the decisions made during debugging. What happens in a 10 second time slot is my own interest in psychology of programming. This is where all the cognitive stuff happens. Longer term programming issues, like 1,000 seconds, are more strategic. -- Derek M. Jones tel

Re: FW: PPIG discuss: Hello / how we debug

2007-01-03 Thread Derek M Jones
this site. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp://www.knosof.co.uk -- PPIG

Re: SV: PPIG discuss: long term effect of introductory programming education

2006-10-30 Thread Derek M Jones
of the original 18 didn't understand the problem makes one wonder about the sample. I would be very interested in hearing them. Readers of this list might not be so keen, so perhaps you would send them to me direct. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667

Re: SV: PPIG discuss: long term effect of introductory programming education

2006-10-30 Thread Derek M Jones
that there is a strong correlation between developer performance and certain kinds of operator occurrences in source code and no correlation for other kinds of measurements of operators occurrences. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: SV: PPIG discuss: long term effect of introductory programming education

2006-10-30 Thread Derek M Jones
set out to find out what those beliefs were by asking them to answer precedence problems. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Word separation and identifier readability

2006-09-04 Thread Derek M Jones
ATROPHY and A_TROPHY is arguably different from that between aTrophy and a_trophy. You are assuming that the subject is a fluent speaker of English. In this case I suspect that the surrounding context will play a major role, ie is this software related to medial issues or sports? -- Derek M

Re: PPIG discuss: Looking for guinea-pigs (er, early participants); and a question

2006-05-12 Thread Derek M Jones
). -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp://www.knosof.co.uk -- PPIG Discuss

Re: PPIG discuss: Slips in programming practice

2006-03-16 Thread Derek M Jones
Sarah, Does anyone know of literature about slips (unconscious mistakes) in programming practice? Mind bugs by Kurt Vanlehn, ISBN 0-262-22036-9 is what you need to read. Full of material and models of arithmetic mistakes. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520

Re: PPIG discuss: IT Author Smackdown

2006-02-22 Thread Derek M Jones
universal. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp://www.knosof.co.uk -- PPIG

PPIG discuss: Wikipedia entry

2006-02-18 Thread Derek M Jones
All, I have started the ball rolling on the psychology of programming entry on Wikipedia. Happy writing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology_of_programming -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL

Re: PPIG discuss: Loop Bounds and Errors

2006-01-31 Thread Derek M Jones
experimental evidence while they while away the time of discussion groups? You are in danger of becoming an outcast. Oh, that Russel chap, used to be an ok bloke until he got hooked on reality ;-) -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

PPIG discuss: Teach the common stuff: was Loop Bounds and Errors

2006-01-31 Thread Derek M Jones
than if you over-specialise your termination conditions. Once you've got anything you understand it reasonably deeply. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance

Re: PPIG discuss: Teach the common stuff: was Loop Bounds and Errors

2006-01-31 Thread Derek M Jones
and grammar usage first? Those going to to program professionally can always learn the crinkly bits later. -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp

PPIG discuss: Effects of student code

2006-01-10 Thread Derek M Jones
All, For those of you who have forgotten the effects of reading student code: http://mileshotel.blogspot.com/2006/01/four-eyes-mind-fucking-pic.html -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PPIG discuss: Statistical evaluation of technology effects

2005-10-31 Thread Derek M Jones
Design and Analysis of Experiments by Douglas Montgomery -- Derek M. Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testinghttp://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Researchers ignoring the common cases again

2005-06-30 Thread Derek M Jones
possible for a reasonably homogeneous group of people (ie, engineers) to be split into two groups; those who love it and those who would only use it if forced to. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: PPIG discuss: Researchers ignoring the common cases again

2005-06-30 Thread Derek M Jones
Frank, Well, I answered this off-list, but Derek's put it back on, so I'll give one quick reply ... Oops, sorry about that. I will try and pay more attention in future. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: PPIG discuss: Researchers ignoring the common cases again

2005-06-29 Thread Derek M Jones
, and those of us who want better would turn to our computers rather than pay the $500 price tag. Isn't being good enough the aim of all product development? Satisficing is something we humans do all the time. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667

Re: PPIG discuss: Researchers ignoring the common cases again

2005-06-29 Thread Derek M Jones
on investment is the goal of product investment. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

PPIG discuss: Researchers ignoring the common cases again

2005-06-28 Thread Derek M Jones
. 4 x (-5) delivers the expected result. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

RE: PPIG discuss: Object-oriented vs. procedural programming: material for a study.

2005-03-13 Thread Derek M Jones
native Russian speakers, or whether being Russian was a convenient label. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: The concept concept

2005-03-10 Thread Derek M Jones
there, but it would help if you knew had read something about the category learning first (the material could have been better organised and a few more diagrams would have helped). derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

PPIG discuss: Commercial reality (was: Competence (was: About natural naming))

2005-03-09 Thread Derek M Jones
university lecturers for teaching nonsense might be a more efficient long term solution. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http

RE: PPIG discuss: Commercial reality (was: Competence (was: About natural naming))

2005-03-09 Thread Derek M Jones
the interests of many of those on this list. I don't see the psychology aspect of some of the threads I see on the list and the only explanation I have for them is oh, that's an academic thing. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software

Re: PPIG discuss: Competence (was: About natural naming)

2005-03-08 Thread Derek M Jones
in a rut will often only change when they are forced to and working on your own reduces the likelihood of such forces occurring. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PPIG discuss: Competence (was: About natural naming)

2005-03-08 Thread Derek M Jones
papers often acknowledge and take account of the practical aspects of software development he is often quoted by idealists as the posterchild of their cause. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto

RE: PPIG discuss: Competence (was: About natural naming)

2005-03-08 Thread Derek M Jones
, not everybody agrees with me. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Competence (was: About natural naming)

2005-03-07 Thread Derek M Jones
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RE: PPIG discuss: About natural naming

2005-03-04 Thread Derek M Jones
Carl, All cultural conventions have to start somewhere. Irrespective of whether i, j, k are good or bad (however they are measured), they are not part of programming culture. ^^^ now A Freudian slip or a simple typo? derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0

Re: PPIG discuss: About natural naming

2005-02-28 Thread Derek M Jones
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PPIG discuss: Favorite citations

2005-02-28 Thread Derek M Jones
what papers/books would you recommend? derek_farn ;-) derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Natural naming imaginary computer

2005-02-24 Thread Derek M Jones
identifier naming might like to check out www.knosof.co.uk/cbook/782.pdf (there is the new improved proof-read version). derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: PPIG discuss: Re: PPIG announce: ICSE: Evidence-based Software Engineering

2005-01-11 Thread Derek M Jones
has pointed out to me that the cost/benefit of experiments/empirical work makes it unattractive. So academic software engineering would appear to be locked into a vicious circle. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: PPIG discuss: Children learning to program

2004-10-12 Thread Derek M Jones
they have not all reached that stage yet). Of course there is nothing to stop companies claiming that their products are ergonomic, especially if it boosts profits! http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19042 derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667

Re: FW: PPIG discuss: Children learning to program

2004-10-11 Thread Derek M Jones
and what students don't need to know. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Children learning to program

2004-10-11 Thread Derek M Jones
merry way is likely to be much more costly. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Children learning to program

2004-10-11 Thread Derek M Jones
, artists, musicians, anyone. Way beyond open source, it was a manifesto for democratizing access to cultural participation at the most basic level. Sounds like this guy needs to start taking his medication again. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0

Re: PPIG discuss: The nature of programming

2004-09-25 Thread Derek M Jones
by adding the extensions that the designer of the language did not include because they were dangerous. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards

Re: PPIG discuss: Cognitive Complexity Measurement

2004-09-23 Thread Derek M Jones
would recommend that you base it on the results of experiments and measurements. To much existing research is based on theoretical discussions of 'interesting' ideas. This is a complete waste of time. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667

Re: PPIG discuss: evaluating programmers

2004-09-13 Thread Derek M Jones
development is to make a profit and I know of plenty of product developments where a lack of software engineering skills did not stand in the way of making significant profits. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: PPIG discuss: what do programmers think about

2004-07-18 Thread Derek M Jones
of commonality of higher level constructs across application domains (I think people tend to focus in on the differences and ignore the commonalities), but I have no usage measurements. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: PPIG discuss: what do programmers think about

2004-07-17 Thread Derek M Jones
). I will also, in due course be adding information about the analysis of design protocols, and they do look very interesting many thanks How do you plan to distinguish between design and discovery? derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge

PPIG discuss: I love that computer in the corner

2004-04-26 Thread Derek M Jones
methodology and over hyped results. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

RE: PPIG discuss: Programmer's mental models

2004-02-28 Thread Derek M Jones
). What we need to do is accept both of them as given and start figuring out how best to get them working together. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications

Re: PPIG discuss: programming as reflective practice

2004-02-17 Thread Derek M Jones
assessed and the five students with the highest scores and the five with the lowest scores were used as expert and novice learners respectively in the rest of the research. I think it would be safe to say this researcher is incompetent. derek -- Derek M Jones

Re: PPIG discuss: Syntax Highlighting, revisited

2004-02-11 Thread Derek M Jones
this is best done). Experts know what the chunks are, they are after a means of reducing the cognitive effort needed to locate them in a visual display. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

RE: Penny for the guy: was RE: PPIG discuss: Loss of context e xperienced by programmers

2003-12-08 Thread Derek M Jones
those that appreciate the difference but cannot be bothered to invest their time in doing it properly (these need to be showered with derision). derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL

Re: Penny for the guy: was RE: PPIG discuss: Loss of context experienced by programmers

2003-12-08 Thread Derek M Jones
curve). After all, they usually get to work with recent graduates with some degree of regularity. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance

Re: PPIG discuss: Loss of context experienced by programmers

2003-12-05 Thread Derek M Jones
and the following is online: www.uoi.gr/cerp/2001_October/pdf/10Lee.pdf derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http

Re: PPIG discuss: Re: case etc.

2003-12-05 Thread Derek M Jones
on Reading available from: www.psychology.nottingham.ac.uk/staff/Fernand.Gobet/ papers/Cogsci'97-thai.ps and for a software development perspective there is always sentence 763, available from that well known site: www.knosof.co.uk/cbook/cbook.html derek -- Derek M Jones

Penny for the guy: was RE: PPIG discuss: Loss of context experienced by programmers

2003-12-05 Thread Derek M Jones
how to talk to industry and I'm sure academics feel the same way about people in industry. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance

Re: PPIG discuss: Effect of letter casing on readability

2003-12-04 Thread Derek M Jones
is not specific to C. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Software engineering versus mechanical engineering

2003-08-21 Thread Derek M Jones
in Gawande's book. So 'failure' clinics might not be practical. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http

PPIG discuss: Re: Derek's concerns

2003-08-18 Thread Derek M Jones
/meaddebate.htm This up huge front cost is yet another hurdle in the way of any academic wanting to do commercially relevant research in software engineering. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

PPIG discuss: Re: PPIG announce: STEP Workshop: Where's the Evidence?

2003-08-09 Thread Derek M Jones
that there is a very low probability of any solutions to software engineering problems coming from academia. The people involved have little applicable knowledge and the social forces involved are not pushing them in the appropriate direction. derek -- Derek M Jones

Re: PPIG discuss: Book Search

2003-03-05 Thread Derek M Jones
0123507723 Publisher : Academic Press 1991 They have one for sale but the seller will only ship within the US. :-( derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications

Re: PPIG discuss: Experienced industrial subjects available

2002-12-06 Thread Derek M Jones
transforming answers already given, to give new answers (which, if you have that kind of mind, require less effort). This created a situation common to reasoning research; subjects are not solving them problem the experimenter thinks they are solving. derek -- Derek M Jones

PPIG discuss: Experienced industrial subjects available

2002-12-05 Thread Derek M Jones
://www.accuconference.co.uk/ We ought to be able to attract 20, perhaps even 50 subjects. The equipment will need to be at the paper and pencil level. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: PPIG discuss: Java as first PL

2002-11-06 Thread Derek M Jones
years, I don't plan to hold my breath on a theory of teaching programming. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:derek;knosof.co.uk Applications Standards Conformance Testing http

Re: PPIG discuss: java intro text

2002-10-18 Thread Derek M Jones
that students would prefer to be seen with the Really Advanced Java book than with Java for dummies. I see that MITs open course ware, http://ocw.mit.edu/6/6.170/f01/index.html, uses Java. However, I think most beginner students will find this hard going. derek -- Derek M Jones

Re: PPIG discuss: Taking psychology into the wilds

2002-10-14 Thread Derek M Jones
into account. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk - Automatic footer for [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PPIG discuss: statistical study about commenting

2002-10-04 Thread Derek M Jones
(their finding was that indoctrinating programmers in Literate Programming You hit the nail on the head with indoctrinate. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PPIG discuss: Psychological importance of bad team member

2002-09-10 Thread Derek M Jones
or heard about that study and can give me a clue of where to track it down. I would rethink what it is that you think you heard somebody tell you. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto

RE: PPIG discuss: mathematics

2002-09-09 Thread Derek M Jones
. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk - Automatic footer for [EMAIL PROTECTED

PPIG discuss: The truth is out there

2002-08-21 Thread Derek M Jones
(apart from all those French people, perhaps the French like filling in online surveys, on the other hand I don't speak French). I wonder if these results will do anything to halt the many myths that abound about open source development and developers? derek -- Derek M Jones

Re: PPIG discuss: Need help finding papers - beginner programming, semantic errors, natural representation]

2002-07-15 Thread Derek M Jones
to be self serving. The accepted view of what constitutes good language design also seems to change dramatically over the years. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Debugging and science (was PPIG discuss: Searching for search strategies)

2002-07-08 Thread Derek M Jones
). derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk - Automatic footer for [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: PPIG discuss: Searching for search strategies

2002-07-04 Thread Derek M Jones
://hfac.gmu.edu/~gray/pubs/papers/FG-CogSc.htm Developers making use of knowledge, during debugging, that is later shown to be incorrect, is the root cause of some very long winded debugging sessions. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge

RE: PPIG discuss: Searching for search strategies

2002-07-04 Thread Derek M Jones
tempted from the straight and narrow (quite literaly) You must have very knowledgeable colleagues, or ask simple questions ;-) I sometimes post questions to news groups, as an act of desperation. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667

Re: PPIG discuss: visual theory? (fwd)

2002-06-16 Thread Derek M Jones
' in the sense of trendy, impress your fellow workers sense. Not in the sense of neat and tidy. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance

Re: PPIG discuss: visual theory? (fwd)

2002-06-12 Thread Derek M Jones
by it. But this time I thought I was onto a winner. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

PPIG discuss: Sentence 763

2002-05-28 Thread Derek M Jones
whose ambiguity is minimised when the middle two letters are known (page 21), please let me know. A phonological answer may be possible for English words, but how could this apply to identifiers containing digits and missing vowels? derek -- Derek M Jones

Re: PPIG discuss: Sentence 763

2002-05-28 Thread Derek M Jones
://citeseer.nj.nec.com/191521.html, looked at English and French. If anybody want to do the measurements for other computer languages they are welcome to the source of my ambiguity calculation program. But they will need to supply their own list of identifiers. derek -- Derek M Jones

PPIG discuss: punctuator similarity

2002-05-23 Thread Derek M Jones
of letters) deal with upper and lower case letters (Swedish) only. The OCR literature treats it as a machine learning issue. The Kuennapas studies asked people for their views on the visual similarity. Perhaps these should deliver the same final result, but I am not convinced. derek -- Derek M Jones

Re: PPIG discuss: punctuator similarity

2002-05-23 Thread Derek M Jones
and process (pp. 53-90). Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum. I have found this article online at: http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~pomeran/articles.htm derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

PPIG discuss: common sense

2002-04-06 Thread Derek M Jones
All, For those of you with an interest in common sense (or the more respectable sounding implicit knowledge). OpenCyc have just made their first major release. http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencyc/ derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667

PPIG discuss: phonetic symbolism

2002-04-04 Thread Derek M Jones
languages? derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk - Automatic footer for [EMAIL PROTECTED

PPIG discuss: Something to read over Christmas

2001-12-20 Thread Derek M Jones
discuss this in another book. Feedback most welcome. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk

Re: PPIG discuss: Coders versus programmers

2001-10-30 Thread Derek M Jones
people with coding skills. You are hanging on to the people who are the hardest to find. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing

Re: PPIG discuss: Capitalist goals. (Was: Similarity and categorization)

2001-10-29 Thread Derek M Jones
generalised concept than money. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk - Automatic footer for [EMAIL

Re: PPIG discuss: Chess and programming

2001-10-03 Thread Derek M Jones
by Ericsson Lehmann, in Annual Review of Psychology 1996, 47:273-305. At least for the expert stuff. I don't know about the brain usage research. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto

Re: PPIG discuss: the believability of scientific proof

2001-10-02 Thread Derek M Jones
in increments to sell into the different layers of society. Not a bit of hand wringing doubt in sight. So much for ppigers to learn from (apart from the dodgy scientific proof). derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: PPIG discuss: Bracketing -- 4 other issues

2001-09-22 Thread Derek M Jones
with developers. It creates an enormous amount of discussion for very small (I would, unsubstantiatedly, claim) benefit. Let them carry on doing that they are currently doing. derek -- Derek M Jones tel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: PPIG discuss: Bracketing

2001-09-21 Thread Derek M Jones
the effects of my being practiced in reading code this way. When I look back at some of the Fortran I once wrote I am amazed anybody could ever read it (perhaps they couldn't), but then I am out of practice at reading Fortran. derek -- Derek M Jones tel

Re: PPIG discuss: which decision strategy?

2001-06-26 Thread Derek M Jones
strategies under different circumstances. This seems true of programming also. The strategy picked when writing code from scratch might be different than when maintaining code. derek -- Derek M Jonestel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

PPIG discuss: Field research

2001-05-03 Thread Derek M Jones
research. To get your foot in the door you will have to get to Coventry and cough up £50 (it was around that last time, I don't know if they have academic rates) under your own steam. derek -- Derek M Jonestel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software

Re: PPIG discuss: Re: What plan? Was: Funding, Was Mixing decimal hexadecimal

2001-05-02 Thread Derek M Jones
that makes up the whole. Programs tend to be large and people usually work on parts of it. 'parts of program' understanding module understanding procedure understanding software understanding software comprehension code understanding code comprehension derek -- Derek M Jones

Re: PPIG discuss: How hard is programming?

2001-05-02 Thread Derek M Jones
out specific domain programming knowledge from the other kinds of programming knowledge if progress is to be made in understanding what programmers do. derek -- Derek M Jonestel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltd

Re: PPIG discuss: Re: What plan? Was: Funding, Was Mixingdecimal hexadecimal

2001-05-02 Thread Derek M Jones
you present me with this program (but that is probably because I don't know as much about psychology as I do about the C abstract machine). derek -- Derek M Jonestel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL

Re: PPIG discuss: What plan? Was: Funding, Was Mixing decimal hexadecimal

2001-05-02 Thread Derek M Jones
. With so many competing ideas and each language having different ways of structuring classes and inheritance, which seems to influence so many peoples views on how to do it, I am staying well away from this issue. derek -- Derek M Jonestel: +44 (0) 1252

Re: PPIG discuss: Mixing decimal hexadecimal

2001-04-16 Thread Derek M Jones
erties of an integer representation. derek -- Derek M Jonestel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Standards Conformance Testing http://www.knosof.co.uk - Automatic footer

Re: PPIG discuss: Mixing decimal hexadecimal

2001-04-16 Thread Derek M Jones
is that Mr/Mrs/Miz average is the person who needs to be studied. A position I have followed in my guidelines (and expect to get a lot of stick over). derek -- Derek M Jonestel: +44 (0) 1252 520 667 Knowledge Software Ltdmailto

PPIG discuss: Funding, Was Mixing decimal hexadecimal

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