Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 13 Feb 2005, at 08:03, Randi Joseph wrote: Hello Everyone, I think that it is very important that certain aspects of the interface be customizable. In particular, a static/floating menubar option and left/right. Lets face it, left scrollbars might be intuitive to old NeXT users, but it is

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Rogelio M . Serrano Jr .
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-02-13 19:24:12 +0800 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Feb 2005, at 08:03, Randi Joseph wrote: Hello Everyone, I think that it is very important that certain aspects of the interface be customizable. In particular, a

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Jesse Ross
It will be easier to sell (GNUSTEP/Objective-C) to developers if some of apple's well thought out interface ideas are adopted. NeXTstep introduced a lot of gui improvements (they were able to learn from the design errors of MacOS/MS-Windows). Some of these got into MacOS-X, but others were

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Nicolas Roard
Le 13 févr. 05, à 09:56, Gregory John Casamento a écrit : Apple spends millions of dollars getting its interface right. Even Steve Jobs who manages to force a single button mouse down our throats realized that an made the change. Steve bent to the whim of the Mac faithful, who were unwilling to

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Rogelio M . Serrano Jr .
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-02-13 23:15:30 +0800 Richard Frith-Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure I understand your point. If you are saying that first time users are going to be forced to use mac/mswin anyway, and that we should therefore not do anything

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Rogelio M . Serrano Jr .
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-02-13 23:14:48 +0800 Nicolas Roard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped...] I *really* don't think that. Sure, some people only want one language. But the majority of the people that works on GNOME and KDE are far from being stupid. GNUstep is

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread M. Uli Kusterer
Hi, I did a few replies via the newsgroup, but it seems they're no longer forwarded to this list. So I'll jump right in and try to catch up with where the discussion's gone by now. At 8:48 Uhr -0600 13.02.2005, Jesse Ross wrote: Exactly. I've been a Mac user exclusively for about 8 years, and

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Nicolas Roard
Le 13 févr. 05, à 18:29, M. Uli Kusterer a écrit : At 15:15 Uhr + 13.02.2005, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: I do find it convincing enough to say we should have options to customise things (themes) at the behavior layer as well as pure appearance. While I have no desire for an ms-windows

Re: OT: Problems with the list itself

2005-02-13 Thread Andrew Ruder
Vaisburd, Haim wrote: I can't post messages to this list from my home e-mail address - who can help me with this? More details would be needed before anyone could help you out with this. Is there an error? Is it just not making it to the list but you don't get any errors? Give some more

Anyone is interested by cloning a beagle?

2005-02-13 Thread Banlu Kemiyatorn
More beagles should be good. They are cute and so whuffy. I am thinking of rewriting Lucene (http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html) but I don't know Java. Anyone want to do that or join the effort? ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Frederico Muñoz
Hi, Dom, 2005-02-13 às 17:01 -0600, Jesse Ross escreveu: On the other hand, I wouldn't mind a more modern looking theme for GNUstep on linux, like http://jesseross.com/clients/gnustep/ui/concepts/01/ui.png , in addition to the default NeXT theme. Is is possible to set up some kind

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Aredridel
There is no way the desktop look and feel alone is going to make people switch from kde, gnome, windows and mac. It might make me switch ... it is why I currently mostly use GNOME. That said, working together rather than replacing would rock. Ari

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Alex Perez
Jesse Ross wrote: It will be easier to sell (GNUSTEP/Objective-C) to developers if some of apple's well thought out interface ideas are adopted. NeXTstep introduced a lot of gui improvements (they were able to learn from the design errors of MacOS/MS-Windows). Some of these got into MacOS-X,

Re: Look and Feel

2005-02-13 Thread Alex Perez
Jesse Ross wrote: I would appreciate it if you would define what you mean by default theme. I realize that this is confusing, but here goes: 1) GNUstep has a built-in or native look, one that doesn't require a theme to be shown. 2) GNUstep also has a theme engine called Camaelon. Because it

Re: Anyone is interested by cloning a beagle?

2005-02-13 Thread Yen-Ju Chen
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 01:48:51 +0100, Quentin Math [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Banlu, I'm really interested by this : I was planning to use Java Lucene version for toil search functionality, but it would be better to have an Objective-C version for sure, there is a C++ version however of