Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] interim structuring - a proposal

2010-10-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Bernard, *, Bernhard Dippold wrote (01-10-10 23:20) [BUGS] discussions/proposals about *bugs* in LibreOffice [FEATURES] discussions/proposals about new *features* for LibreOffice Both are strongly development related. Core development has found its place on FreeDesktop.

Re: [tdf-discuss] User participation - bugtracking

2010-10-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Nguyen Vu Hung wrote (02-10-10 23:38) # We are using freedesktop.org's git to manage source code. So, I assume that we also use its bugzilla as the bug tracking system? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ Indeed: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOffice -- - free

Re: [tdf-discuss] Turkish Linux Users Association mirrors LO

2010-10-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Deniz, Deniz Öğüt wrote (02-10-10 23:02) Hello Dear Friends, Turkish Linux Users Association (LKD) [1] publicly announced [2] that the Association is officially mirroring LibreOffice Beta. Thanks for this great news - good to have you here :-) Cor -- - free OpenOffice.org ::

Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure

2010-10-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (07-10-10 14:04) I think we need something like TCM to manage manual tests of localisation. I know that Sophie is/was working on a new version of TCM. She should have some good ideas in this matter. Experience in Dutch NLC (where TCM is not used that much): People

Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations ?

2010-10-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jean, Jean Hollis Weber wrote (13-10-10 14:31) I think transparency is a good way to show TDF is working well... and, in my opinion, it also invites people to donate more money. I have been asking for this from the OpenOffice.org community council for many years, with no results. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations ?

2010-10-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Sophie Gautier wrote (13-10-10 22:27) I remember Jean request, but not yours sorry. Again, I've tried to get these information displayed with no success. It did help. Finally we started to add some data to the council wiki. See

Re: [tdf-discuss] the translation of Manifesto

2010-10-14 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Yosuke Kato wrote (13-10-10 17:35) I made a Japanese translation and announced to our mailing list. http://oooug.jp/sns/?m=diarya=page_detailtarget_c_diary_id=623 The Dutch translation is here http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/NL/Next_Decade_Manifesto Cor -- - giving

Re: [tdf-discuss] Two moderator questions

2010-10-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Bernhard Dippold wrote (15-10-10 18:52) What seems to be necessary is describing the OP how a mailing list and a volunteer community works. That's what I do on the OOo lists I'm moderator (art and branding) by a direct (standardized) mail to the OP [1]. I think it is (nearly?) as important as

Re: [tdf-discuss] A few initial comments on Beta2

2010-10-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jean, Jean Weber wrote (17-10-10 02:28) On Sun, Oct 17, 2010, AGcomputing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote: (iii) when opening a previously saved document, it would be nice if the cursor went automatically to the last saved point of the document rather than what seems to happen now which is to

Re: [tdf-discuss] We're on slashdot

2010-10-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Andrea Pescetti wrote (17-10-10 14:47) Well, OpenOffice.org donations go to Team OpenOffice.org e.V. (not to be confused with OpenOffice.org Deutschland e.V.) http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html and the treasurer of Team OpenOffice.org e.V. happens to be from Oracle:

Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribed posters

2010-10-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Bernhard Dippold wrote (19-10-10 00:23) Hi Barbara, all, [...] It's hard to read all the mails and to reply to the most important only (in my eyes). I will probably not be able to contribute much to this thread (or to the wiki) during the next few weeks - but I promise to stay on

Re: [tdf-discuss] Multilingualism and discussions

2010-10-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jean-Christophe, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote (19-10-10 14:10) On 19 oct. 10, at 19:35, Cor Nouws wrote: In any case, the current global lists are not global, they are English lists and should be identified as such. They are handling global items, as I see it. I do not mind if some

Re: [tdf-discuss] Basic question about Oracle asking OOo community members to leave

2010-10-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Marco, M. Fioretti wrote (20-10-10 05:46) [...] The real question was why didn't the TDF founders who have/had official roles in OOo publicly resign from those roles on Sept 28th, one second BEFORE announcing the birth of TDF? Would'nt it have been much more proper, considering that creating

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Benjamin Horst wrote (22-10-10 17:52) Sorry that I haven't been involved in this discussion to this point, but Draw has the major advantage of a native interface on Mac OS X, which Dia and Inkscape do not (I think both require X11, though I haven't checked lately). I do not want to ignore

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO roadmap?

2010-10-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, L.D. wrote (23-10-10 00:10) The reason we don't use Writer (instead of MS Word) is because it lacks a crucial feature for business: powerful indexing (we create large documents, such as manuals and guides, that need indexes) Do you know Andrews Macro Document, for example? Pretty some

Libreoffice 3.3 Beta 3 (was Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Digest of discuss@documentfoundation.org issue 87 (2846-2859)

2010-11-14 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Lin, Jih-Yao Lin wrote (15-11-10 05:52) When will be the Libreoffice 3.3 Beta 3? From what I heard, I would say this week or the next one. (No guarantee, but yes, rather soon.) Regards, Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Charles-H. Schulz wrote (14-11-10 13:49) I have a question about the Board of Directors. I see that the draft says all members are chosen every year (from the Community Members) and that one can be member only twice consecutively. Has been considered that this leads to a situation where each

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Volker Merschmann wrote (16-11-10 22:14) I have a question about the Board of Directors. I see that the draft says all members are chosen every year (from the Community Members) and that one can be member only twice consecutively. Has been considered that this leads to a situation where each

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi , Thorsten Behrens wrote (17-11-10 16:05) Charles-H. Schulz wrote: possible solution: sponsor's paid developers shouldn't participate in ESC as *single* persons. Contributions in their free time and following cooptation in ESC should be carefully evaluated from BoD or Membership Committee.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Problems with DEB files

2010-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Andy Brown wrote (18-11-10 20:34) Is anyone besides me having a problem opening the DEB archives for Beta 3? I keep getting an error tar: This does not look like a tar archive. I had the same problem with beta 2. So after some silence on the list, I used the rpm package and alien. Cor -- -

Re: [tdf-discuss] changed footers of all documentfoundation and libreoffice.org mailing lists

2010-11-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Florian Effenberger wrote (24-11-10 10:49) What do others think? I still clearly favor the non-poetic version ;) No preference for me. Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org

Re: [steering-discuss] Community bylaws

2010-11-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Michael Meeks wrote (22-11-10 11:50) Hi guys, On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 01:57 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Cor Nouws schrieb: Has been considered that this leads to a situation where each year people have to get used to the tasks, the other board members etc. so that maybe

Re: [steering-discuss] Updated draft of the Community Bylaws

2010-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Charles-H. Schulz wrote (01-12-10 17:45) Le Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:17:16 -0200, Olivier Hallotolivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org a écrit : Some thoughts and questions from my personal experience: 1) I am a bit concerned of the definition of project: It looks like TDF will foster

Re: [steering-discuss] Updated draft of the Community Bylaws

2010-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, I really like the remarks/ideas made by Florian. And if I got it right, most of it already is on the wiki. Few comments from my side: Florian Effenberger wrote (02-12-10 16:53) - Board of Directors: Shall we limit the number of deputies per seat to one, making it mandatory that one

Re: [steering-discuss] Updated draft of the Community Bylaws

2010-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hiho, Michael Meeks wrote (03-12-10 15:41) I added my comments in [MMEEKS: foo !] type brackets as David has done himself; directly into the wiki; there were a few things that didn't belong in there though: Firstly - I'm really hopeful reading this; it seems we're getting

Re: [steering-discuss] Updated draft of the Community Bylaws

2010-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Charles, all, Charles-H. Schulz wrote (29-11-10 18:23) Here is the latest version of the bylaws: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws I have - some small edits, to make text more clear (IMO) - some suggestions for smaller improvements: - Chairperson and Chairman are

Re: [steering-discuss] Updated draft of the Community Bylaws

2010-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Drew, drew wrote (03-12-10 19:08) What there is not, that I can see, is a way for the general membership to remove the board, or a particular member of the board, beyond the annual elections. [...] Without offering any specific details on mechanics for the moment, what I'm thinking of is a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Why is LO/OOo so slow loading a spreadsheet?

2010-12-04 Thread Cor Nouws
plino wrote (04-12-10 00:39) Another topic ignored? Maybe a mailing list isn't the right tool... Mhh, I did not see your note as anything new. But Maybe I should have mailed that ;-) But ignored? Far from that. See the OOo wiki for analyses/ideas/tasks on Calc and performance. And also the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Why is LO/OOo so slow loading a spreadsheet?

2010-12-04 Thread Cor Nouws
plino wrote (04-12-10 11:09) What puzzles me is that I can't find any logic that LO/OOo which is the Office suite behind the ODF standard is in fact LESS efficient handling that format than another FLOSS program... Cause it is a different program ;-) If you want some pointers, look for

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Why is LO/OOo so slow loading a spreadsheet?

2010-12-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Kohei Yoshida wrote (04-12-10 17:51) Hi there, On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 02:32 -0800, plino wrote: The xlsx file is in the link above. Here is the ODS http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2347109/30_line_sample.ods Are this file and the .xlsx variant free of any confidential information? IOW, Can I put

Re: [tdf-discuss] International support

2010-12-14 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Karl :-) Karl Morten Ramberg wrote (14-12-10 13:49) Yes I think LibO needs a way of offering intl support and responsetime guarantee to attract larger companies. And that that can be a way of partially fund the development It is very true that offering support at a certain level is

Re: [tdf-discuss] opening big chinese docx file cause LO crash many times.

2010-12-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Lin, Thanks for mailing... Jih-Yao Lin wrote (15-12-10 03:15) the chinese big file is about 300kb, and when i change the content and save it, LO crash. The file is not attached or posted to the list. Did you make an issue for the problem ? Pls do so in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Ricardo, Thanks for both. I will mark them for translation in Dutch etc. One thing I wonder: did you think about the name structure for the pages, or ask on documentation@ or website@ ? I am not sure, but can imagine that there are categories or subpages, useful to group (and later easily

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread Cor Nouws
RGB ES wrote (26-12-10 00:02) 2010/12/25 Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl: One thing I wonder: did you think about the name structure for the pages, or ask on documentation@ or website@ ? To be honest, no... I just had some idle time today and hurried before something else grabbed it ;) :-) I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Mark, all, Mark Preston wrote (31-12-10 16:11) If I may inject what I hope is a little sense into this argument:- A major strength of Open Office is and always was that it could read and often write documents in many proprietary formats. That strength should remain solidly a feature of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2010-12-31 Thread Cor Nouws
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote (31-12-10 13:14) On 31/12/10 09:30, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: FYI for those that aren't aware. Microsoft office 2010 supports ODF format for opening and saving documents now. So does 2007 SP2 as well. However in 2007 the opening of ods documents has deliberately

Re: [tdf-discuss] happy new year from Italy :-)

2011-01-01 Thread Cor Nouws
yahoo-pier_andreit wrote (01-01-11 09:25) could the 2011 take to you as much joy and happynes as to be more than enough so to gift the remaining to others. Thank you so much! A whole lot of peace in our harts in 2011 :-) Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Larry Gusaas wrote (02-01-11 20:09) On 2011/01/02 12:47 PM Italo Vignoli wrote: If you want to have a say in software development you are welcome to contribute to the code So only people who write code have a say in the development of LibreOffice? What about people who do the QA? Or the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Addons

2011-01-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Michael Wheatland wrote (03-01-11 16:56) To make this clear in my mind I have listened and read the decision statement from the Steering Committee decision. The conversation on the conference call: I would ask the people working on Drupal to do a more detailed planning in the next

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hello Johannes, Johannes A. Bodwing wrote (03-01-11 20:31) Hi Cor, ... Or is there a system to save proposals for a later check under new conditions. Not that I am aware of. Eventually it could be helfpul to have a list of such ideas in a common place (TDF or LO) with marks like: later

Re: [tdf-discuss] Templates unavailable at templates.services.openoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Fabian, Fabián Rodríguez wrote (10-01-11 15:19) When starting the LibreOffice launcher, the first button at the bottom left points to http://templates.services.openoffice.org to get more templates. The first page loads OK but trying to access any templates gives a 503 error. Even the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Linux distros and LibO packaging

2011-01-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti wrote (18-01-11 21:13) The OpenOffice.org experience, and the first distribution-specific LibreOffice bugs like http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg04508.html make me think that fragmentation, while of course allowed by the license, should be

[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: The Document Foundation launches LibreOffice 3.3

2011-01-25 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Joe, Joe Rotello wrote (25-01-11 14:01) OK, now... here's a few deadly serious and hopefully short marketing and related things that outsiders, product reviewers and others, including those that love LibreOffice / OpenOffice, and those that do not, will be looking for: In no particular

Re: [tdf-discuss] What features are missing when a JRE is missing in Windows ?

2011-01-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Augustine Souza wrote (30-01-11 18:51) Don't macros also need JRE? No. Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ ***

Re: [tdf-discuss] What features are missing when a JRE is missing in Windows ?

2011-01-30 Thread Cor Nouws
RGB ES wrote (30-01-11 16:58) 2011/1/30 Fabián Rodríguezmagic...@member.fsf.org: Which features will be missing in such case ? Is it best to always have the JRE under Windows ? In a nutshell, without java you will not have: - Base - The bibliographic database I think that still works via

Re: [tdf-discuss] 1. Correspondence of LO with odt files 2. Crash when Math formula document.

2011-02-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, First thanks for posting you experiences. Epaminondas Diamantopoulos wrote (06-02-11 08:28) 1. At Win XP (SP3) after uninstalling OOo and installed LO the application was not considered as default choice fot OpenDocumentType files (OOo does it when installed) and I had to define one by

Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility: What's the story?

2011-02-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Joanie, Joanmarie Diggs wrote (15-02-11 21:55) A question I've been wondering, and that Orca users are wondering, and that the GNOME accessibility team is wondering is: What's the story with LibreOffice accessibility? In particular: * Is the fork so complete that fixes made in OOo will not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

2011-02-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, *, Michael Meeks wrote (16-02-11 18:36) This question prolly belongs best on the dev list. On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 15:28 +0100, Christophe Strobbe wrote: 1. Now imagine that I contribute code to LibreOffice and the contribution is accepted. Is it then still acceptable (from

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

2011-02-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Christophe Strobbe wrote (16-02-11 15:28) I have a question about licences and copyright. [...] These are important questions for developers who don't want to take sides for or against OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice. If this has already been clarified in a wiki somewhere, please let me

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

2011-02-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kohei, Kohei Yoshida wrote (18-02-11 02:07) On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 23:44 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: Reading Christophes question though, I see the route that people contribute code both to LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org. It is right that this (which indeed is perfect possible) will give extra

Re: [tdf-discuss] table tool bar keep open

2011-02-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi , Irmhild Rogalla wrote (19-02-11 09:37) Am 18.02.2011 11:50, schrieb Avraham Hanadari: Please! Can someone suggest how the table toolbar could be kept open on a permanent basis? I tried a lot, but found no possibility to keep open the table toolbar permanently. For me it's the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Seth, s kadish wrote (23-02-11 19:03) Hi, this is the second time I've installed LO. Previously I installed 3.3, and now 3.3.1. Both times, at the end of installation, I was directed to a page called Thank you for using OpenOffice.org, which is here:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi klaus-jürgen, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (24-02-11 09:20) I have had the same Thank you website. My system: WIN7 64bit (SP1) I had installed OOo but deinstalled a longer time ago. I'm getting this website every time when I'm installing a new LibO. Before I install a new LibO I always

Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-02-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi klaus-jürgen, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (24-02-11 10:17) * I deinstalled it again. After that I deleted in Benutzer-AppData-...-Roaming the folders OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice. Delete the installation folder and the LibreOffice folder in Programme (x86). * After a restart of

Re: RE : Re: [tdf-discuss] Strange OpenOffice Email from a new universe

2011-02-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Andrea Pescetti wrote (27-02-11 00:35) On 26/02/2011 Charles-H. Schulz wrote: You can copy and paste it here,of course :-) Since nobody forwarded the message in the end, and I didn't receive it myself, I can only speculate it is the expected message notifying all openoffice.org (the site, not

Re: [tdf-discuss] Where to find a ZIP for LibrOffice package ?

2011-03-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Berthajm, berthajm wrote (03-03-11 17:33) I used to install oOo with the zip package for Windows. I'm bored with programs which add entries everywhere in the system and in the registry, and avoid install EXE's when I can, they only obscure things. I like portable and simple ways to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, M. Fioretti wrote (09-03-11 19:45) please note that I explicitly acknowledge in that page that it is unavoidable that such a support list must accept (after moderation) even messages from unsubscribed users. So (in this case) I agree with you that non-subscribers messages must pass.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Thank you for using OpenOffice.org

2011-03-11 Thread Cor Nouws
klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote (11-03-11 08:40) Am 27.02.2011 22:09, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: Am 25.02.2011 12:02, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: Am 25.02.2011 06:13, schrieb Rainer Bielefeld: Cor Nouws schrieb: I have never seen that effect. I also can't remember. Did anyone

Re: [tdf-discuss] Euro symbol not inserted into write documents

2011-03-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, AG wrote (19-03-11 09:41) In LibO Write, I am unable to insert the special character of the Euro symbol into the text. I can in Calc, but in Write when I try to do so all that is shown is a slim grey bar where the symbol should be. I am using the Symbol fonts (which is the only place I

Re: [tdf-discuss] ASK: How to use FREEZE PANE?

2011-04-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Bram, Bram Indrawan wrote (16-04-11 04:15) I am LIBRE OFFICE new user. Welcome ! Is LIBRE OFFICE have FREEZE PANE function/option? (FREEZE PANE can be find on MICROSOFT OFFICE 2010, I don't know in 2007 version) Hmm, can you pls explain what Freeze pane is expected to do? That makes it

Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: Concerned about Table formatting in Writer

2011-04-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hello Pieter, Pieter E. Zanstra wrote (18-04-11 21:40) I am either posting to the wrong list, or apparantly there are no supporters to get this problem fixed. PZ [ snip ] That set aside, the fact of the matter is that maintaining a company style in Writer tables is a rather tedious chore. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Plino, plino wrote (17-05-11 12:49) [...] What do they mean by handing it back? Are they giving up on the OpenOffice brand? Can someone from TDF shed some light? Probably it will not surprise you when I say that to me it looks best if activities are combined as much as possible, in some

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Ben, This discussion is a bit, as we say in Dutch ouwe koeien uit de sloot halen :-) (hmm, old stuff that maybe you shouldn't care about any longer) I have seen moments too in the first months of TDF that did not feel so good. However ... BRM wrote (18-05-11 11:53): While I was

Re: [tdf-discuss] List of words that match with the word comletion

2011-05-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jean-Philippe, Jean-Philippe Green wrote (20-05-11 18:14) Hey! I'm not sure if this feature exists, but I don't think so. I love the word completion function, but I would love it even more if it had the possibility to use a key to switch between different words that match, or maybe give a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator

2011-06-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Gianluca Turconi wrote (02-06-11 09:48) And IBM will *directly *contribute to the Apache new project! See: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/34638.wss All it says: . As part of today's news, IBM will contribute staff resources to collaborate with the Apache community during

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation'sIncubator

2011-06-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Ian, Ian Lynch wrote (03-06-11 15:47) I just signed up as a committer on the Apache incubator this morning. Why? Am I against LO and TDF - no, at heart I'm a copyleft person, however, there are also practical realities to consider too sometimes. What is the worst case? OOo code and

Re: [tdf-discuss] Thai LibreOffice community will celebrate the move to LibreOffice tomorrow

2011-06-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Samphan, sophie wrote (06-06-11 18:10) Thanks for sharing, and the great support of the Thai community. I wish you all the best for your seminar! + 1 Good to read ! -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Gary, NoOp wrote (07-06-11 03:05) 2. @TDF: More importantly (from my POV) - what, if any, affect will this have on TDF/LO if OOo 'dies in Apache'? It has become clear to me the last week or so, that there is a close to fundamental difference in the approach by IBM. This has been

Re: [tdf-discuss] How Close Is TDF...? [WAS Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?]

2011-06-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote (07-06-11 09:00) The TDF certainly seems confident. People (and corporations) are often reluctant to accept claims from campaigning organisations without public evidence. Hopefully, we might be able to work together to establish clearly and in public where the TDF is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-10 Thread Cor Nouws
BRM wrote (10-06-11 15:55) You know, usually when an organization (such as TDF) is legally owned by You know, usually when you do not understand something, which is fully understandable in the situations with the many efforts and developments around LibreOffice and TDF, and where we cannot

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Alexander Thurgood wrote (10-06-11 17:27) If it is there in the code, it can not be seen anywhere in the UI that I know of, When creating a new Database, connecting to an existing one, you can choose Adabas DB... So I guess the code has to do with that? Regards, -- - Cor -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges

2011-06-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Charles Jenkins wrote (10-06-11 20:03) In LibreOffice, it appears that comments always have zero length. I would have sworn I had seen it with a selection somewhere. But maybe it only was on the old OOo wiki (1) about the notes feature? Regards, Cor 1)

Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Easier Graphic Insertion

2011-06-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Charles, Charles Jenkins wrote (10-06-11 18:38) technical documentation which includes screenshot images. In other words, we need the graphics to be anchored as a character. I know LibreOffice can do this, but it is not the default behavior, and to fix it after inserting a picture

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Alex, Alexander Thurgood wrote (11-06-11 09:40) Well I eventually managed to find a free download of Adabas D for Linux. The setup is not trivial, even for an individual user (involves setting up a root account for the db admin, and a separate group, to which all Whoops - brave! Adabas

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Thorsten Behrens wrote (15-06-11 09:50) Allen Pulsifer wrote: The seeds of that fork were germinated in the Go-Oo project, which created patches and enhancements that were not contributed back to the official OOo distribution. That became a full fork when the LibreOffice project was started by

Re: [tdf-discuss] Sponsored Bug Repair ?

2011-06-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Fernand, Fernand Vanrie wrote (23-06-11 16:08) I hope Michael and other TDF-members are reading this. As we love to have a Email body when sending emails with the API, our company is willing to fund this kind of repair work. Repair or enhancement... (Side note on the subject: I can

Re: [tdf-discuss] When can we have a API to send Emails ?

2011-06-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Fernand, Fernand Vanrie wrote (22-06-11 14:18) For some reasons the developpers off the OO-API has decided to not allow sending Emails using there API [...] Not sure if this has been mentioned already, and/or is of use for you, but since years I use an dispatch command for the task:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Sponsored Bug Repair ?

2011-06-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Samuel, Samuel M wrote (23-06-11 17:06) Why should'nt TDF go ahead and employ one of the former OOo developers or someone else from the community? I think there would be much interest from users and companys to pay for fixing bugs / implementing new features. Employing people is not such

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice 3.3.3 binaries for Solaris SPARC and Solaris X86

2011-06-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Karl, Karl Behler wrote (29-06-11 18:27) I have been redirected from LibreOffice Forum (DE) to this list. My question is: Why is LO 3.3.3 not available for Solaris (any)? The answer is simple: up until now no one showed interest to build it. Or will it be available at some time? I

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Project: Monthly Bug Hunting Session

2011-07-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Rainer, all, Rainer Bielefeld wrote (28-06-11 12:40) Progress of the project startup you can watch on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-Projects-Incubator#Monthly_Bug_Hunting_Sessions, Every helping hand will be welcome! On the page you can see for what activities still volunteers will

Re: [tdf-discuss] Fourth of July Libreoffice promo video

2011-07-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Drew, drew wrote (06-07-11 02:30) Currently the video is featured on the LibreOffice Vols youtube site: http://youtube.com/user/libreofficevols That's it..thanks, Saw it following your tweet. Is a nice promo, thanks! Cor -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Poll Daily-Builds usage - we need your experience

2011-07-07 Thread Cor Nouws
1 My OS is: Linux 2 Update Info: Useful (would be) 3 I test:frequently / occasionally 4 I test for:mixture 5 My suggestion: grow step by step, don't overestimate the possibilities (for improvement) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail

Re: [tdf-discuss] Text box rotation problem in Writer

2011-07-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hello Diana, dzeimen wrote (01-07-11 01:37) I created a text box in a document and set the rotation angle to 180°. I saved and closed the document and the next time I opened the document the rotation angle was set to 90°. This has happened on every text box in every document I have created. Is

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Text box rotation problem in Writer

2011-07-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Gary, NoOp wrote (07-07-11 19:52) On 07/07/2011 06:19 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Can you please explain how you create a text box in Writer, that you can rotate? Did you do that via copy/paste with Draw? View|Toolbars|Drawing Click on the 'T'|write something|exit the textbox reselect right

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-05 Thread Cor Nouws
plino wrote (05-08-11 20:18) Thorsten Behrens wrote: * frequent bugfix release on the code line happens (3.4.1, 3.4.2 etc). Code only enters that code line after review, no new features are allowed. If something regresses, usually the fix is simply reverted. That is an

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-06 Thread Cor Nouws
plino wrote (06-08-11 00:24) Cor Nouws wrote: Glad to read that, because indeed, your reasoning above is completely illogical :-D Since regressions that occurred between 3.3.x and 3.4.x were not simply reverted and that only regressions between 3.4.x releases are fixed at this stage, what

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-06 Thread Cor Nouws
plino wrote (06-08-11 10:13) Cor Nouws wrote: So now you skip the stupid wrong initial reasoning you made in your previous post and start with another idea that to me just looks as the next poisonous attempt to do as if developers are incompetent uninterested people? I just rewrote what I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Writer printing paragraph formats it into following bulletted list

2011-08-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Mike Hall wrote (20-08-11 20:26) On 20/08/2011 17:24, Terrence Enger wrote: In writer I selected a paragraph and the following bulleted list. Then I printed Selection. To my surprise, the printout formats the first paragraph as one item in the bulleted list. Can this be anything but a bug?

Re: [tdf-discuss] Writer printing paragraph formats it into following bulletted list

2011-08-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Terry, Terrence Enger wrote (20-08-11 23:06) Thank you. I added a reference to the last one, as it is most like my situation. Oh, missed that and just did a full paste ;-) Thanks for the bug report! -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [QA] Opening a .doc file - Regression in Libreoffice 3.4 ???

2011-08-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Gary, *, NoOp wrote (24-08-11 05:17) You've found YALOB (Yet Another LO Bug); of which there seem to more more of every day oddly enough with previous OOo files. And there will be more of them, no doubt. It was well known, and repeatedly written by OpenOffice.org developers, that fixing

Re: [tdf-discuss] how change macro security level?

2011-08-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Terry, Terrence Enger wrote (24-08-11 14:25) taking focus, but that is all that happens. In particular, this does not call up the dialog box that I expected. Is there something I need to know about macro security? OTOH, am I alone in this situation? I am on ubuntu-natty (11.04), running

Re: [tdf-discuss] how change macro security level?

2011-08-26 Thread Cor Nouws
Terrence Enger wrote (25-08-11 17:35) In general, IMO if you build and test on the master, best for questions is IRC #libreoffice-dev. Is that easier for the experts? My experience on the dev and discuss lists is that the response time is at least as fast as I would hope for, and faster by

Re: [tdf-discuss] [Writer] Problem with modern typefaces having more than the standard styles

2011-08-31 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Gwen, GwenDragon wrote (31-08-11 13:25) I reproted the problem in LO bugtracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35538 really no ideas for fixing this problem? Apparently not, until now. I remember having seen some discussion about a way to solve the issue. No idea where,

Re: [tdf-discuss] The Microsoft Word 2007 XML(*.docx) format does not correctly save numbering edits.

2011-09-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi e-letter, e-letter wrote (04-09-11 10:31) These typical m$ queries are irrelevant to LO. If you want to create m$ documents, get money out of your pocket and pay for m$o. If the expected and desired behaviour occurs with the native odt format, then LO is good. Sorry, but I am not so happy

Re: [tdf-discuss] The Microsoft Word 2007 XML(*.docx) format does not correctly save numbering edits.

2011-09-04 Thread Cor Nouws
Hello , M Robinson wrote (02-09-11 19:24) LibreOffice 3.4.0 OOO340m1 (Build:12) I've tried this repeatedly, when I generate lines of text, number them (F12), delete every other line number, save in Microsoft Word 2007 XML (*.docx) format the results are always the same when viewed in MS

Re: [tdf-discuss] The Microsoft Word 2007 XML(*.docx) format does not correctly save numbering edits.

2011-09-05 Thread Cor Nouws
e-letter wrote (05-09-11 00:05) Long-term it does help, in terms of making very clear to the original poster that the priority is superior performance of LO. True, but I expect someone choosing for GNU (the OP) to be well aware of that. There is no negative attitude towards m$ except your

Bug 39903 (Was Re: [tdf-discuss] Monthly Bug Hunting Session)

2011-09-05 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Russ, upscope wrote (05-09-11 19:31) What happened to bug 39903 turned in Aug. 8th. It sure is make life miserable. Did not exist in old 3.3.2 version and does not go away with complete reinstall of LibreOffice. Pls see my comments in the issue. Regards, -- - Cor -

Re: [tdf-discuss] Error in scripting framework

2011-09-12 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Olivier, Olivier Hallot wrote (12-09-11 17:39) Couldn't we write just Oh dear, I am unable to find a macro you asked me to execute!? Would the following be acceptable: Error: the macro you are trying to execute (libName.modName.fnName) could not be found. Cheers, -- - Cor -

Re: [tdf-discuss] strange page orientation problem

2011-09-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jef, jef.peeraer wrote (19-09-11 11:35) i try to upgrade all my OOo users to LO, but encounter a serious problem. i have a template for labels to be printed on a ql-1060 (which has default labels of 102 mm (4) width). The label format in the template is user defined, 10,2 cm width and 6 cm

Re: [tdf-discuss] strange page orientation problem

2011-09-20 Thread Cor Nouws
jef.peeraer wrote (20-09-11 10:01) On Mon, 19 Sep 2011, Cor Nouws wrote: Which OOo version were you using there? 3.2.0, i think. There are indeed a lot of bugs concerning printer dialog (Bug 33245, eg). So i file an extra bug, or just confirm an existing one ? If it is the same, pls add

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