Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-19 Thread Steven Ross
to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Just to be clear the security aspect is of no issue here. I am not interested in doing this for security. I agree with those who have posted about the con's of doing image management in a DB

[ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Derrick Peavy
Probably an easy problem for someone... I want to put two small images in my database and then output them in my app, so that they do not constitute additional http requests. Consider it an experiment - I know that it may seem a bit silly. The goal is for the entire page to be delivered

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Shawn . Gorrell
Bank - Atlanta Office (404) 498-8449 Derrick Peavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/18/2007 09:34 AM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Probably an easy problem for someone... I want to put two small

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Fennell, Mark P.
doesn't display images with such ease, but for a web app...? Thanks. mf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:16 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB I believe there would

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread John Mason
. Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:22 AM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB I'm just curious. What are the benefits of storing the image in the db rather than storing the file on the filesystem and the path in the db? I mean, for a web page, all you need

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Teddy Payne
- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *John Mason *Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:16 AM *To:* discussion@acfug.org *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB I believe there would still be three http requests here. The images would still be called up in the html like

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread John Mason
@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB I believe there would still be three http requests here. The images would still be called up in the html like img src= right? Sorry but in http that would still create seperate http requests. John [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From: [EMAIL

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Fennell, Mark P.
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Kindly, and with respect to everyone that replied: 1. As I stated, the goal is to reduce http requests, not file sizes. And this is an experiment, please forgive, but the Why of why I want to do this is not part of the answer. 2. Don't really need

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Fennell, Mark P.
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Don't get me wrong, I understand it's an experiement and it's fun to try. 1. You're not actually reducing your http requests. -- My main point with this. 3. You can save the image data in the database as a BLOB and output it onto a page. You'll need

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread John Mason
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fennell, Mark P. Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Additionally, I think HTTP 1.1 allows connection keep-alives so that you only make one http call for the entire page. Right? mf

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Derrick Peavy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fennell, Mark P. Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Additionally, I think HTTP 1.1 allows connection keep-alives so that you only make one http call

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Douglas Knudsen
-- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Fennell, Mark P. *Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:07 PM *To:* discussion@acfug.org *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Additionally, I think HTTP 1.1 allows

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Derrick Peavy
there and the end client browser really for the most part doesn't care. John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fennell, Mark P. Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:07 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Additionally, I think HTTP 1.1

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Josh Adams
? Josh _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derrick Peavy Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:24 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Douglas, yep. You nailed it. _ Derrick Peavy Sales and Web Services

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Josh Adams
To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Honestly, there's not really a benefit per se. There might be a rare case now and then for doing this, but really you should probably just use the filesystem for what it's design for, storing files. John _ From: [EMAIL

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread John Mason
: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Not true--there can be a benefits: data management security. Derrick started this whole discussion on the BlueDragon Interest list. I guess he brought it here because no one could tell him a technique for doing what he wanted on that list. But over there just

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Gerrey . Mary-Catherine
@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Right--so to be clear Derrick is looking to not use the img tag but to instead use some other mechanism such that the image isn't a separate file that is referenced (as is the case with the img tag) but is actually

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Gerrey . Mary-Catherine
: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB I agree that with strict image security it is an option. Give an image only to particular people, etc. But data management? I don't think so, but let's just my opinion. Image security is probably the only practical example I can think of for doing

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Douglas Knudsen
*John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/18/2007 02:49 PM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB I agree that with strict image security it is an option. Give an image only to particular people

re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10
you can implement all the same security you : would for any other resource your app serves up. : : Josh: : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:27 AM: To: discussion@acfug.org: Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image f

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Josh Adams
Knudsen Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:13 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB in this case I'd suggest implementing J2EE container security. You can secure any resource this way. DK On 1/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and I've

RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Josh Adams
to know what to retrieve--that's the crucial difference between page furniture and data. But whatever. Josh _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:50 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10
2007 2:50 PM: To: discussion@acfug.org: Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB: : : I agree that with strict image security it is an option. Give an image only: to particular people, etc. But data management? I don't think so, but let's: just my opinion. Image security is probabl

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Derrick Peavy
to retrieve--that's the crucial difference between page furniture and data. But whatever. Josh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:50 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB I agree

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Shawn . Gorrell
: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB Just to be clear the security aspect is of no issue here. I am not interested in doing this for security. I agree with those who have posted about the con's of doing image management in a DB. I don't want to do that. What I specifically was trying

RE: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Josh Adams
it. As with most things, your needs and priorities will dictate your choice. Josh _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:38 PM To: Web Site Subject: re[2]: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB I beg