robert-

you should look at any external systems that cf is interacting with,
including dns.  if you are making cfhttp calls, cf will need to
resolve the domains prior too fetching the pages.  during startup,
none of those dns name resolutions will be cached so the problem might
appear to be worse.

other external systems might include cfpop calls, database calls,
filesystem calls, etc.

if any of these calls slow down substantially, cf may start queueing
requests and if it happens long enough cf starts spending a lot of
energy managing the queue of requests and less on processing them,
causing a downward spiral to server death...

hth

-cameron

On 6/30/06, Robert Reil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have noticed DNS REALLY Slow lately. That was going to be the next thing
that I looked at.

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:30 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

Also check your dns services that the AD uses. Are they working?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:26 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

Sorry been doing several things at once. The missing global catalog would be
the next thing to resolve to speed up your reboots.

John





-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:22 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

It is not and never was said it was a DC. Don't know where that came from...

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

> It does not load any network critical services.

Ok?

Why is this server a domain controller then?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

It boots, and shuts down normally, a bit slow but noting offensive.
Once it loads GUI, it takes about 2-3 mins to load a browser and resolve the
local home page. Then about 10 mins before the CF built page will load
instead of erroring out on JRUN.

No browser warnings in event viewer.
Not multi homed.

It does not load any network critical services.
It does run Backup Exec, IIS, Terminal Services, Grisoft AV, MySQL, and
MSSQL.

I do notice that there are a couple questionable processes running and will
google them for potential viruses.
DLLHOST.exe
CTFMON.exe
CSRSS.exe
LLSSRV.exe
LSASS.exe
Pvlsvr.exe
Swagent.exe
Swsoc.exe
Swstrtr.exe
All other processes make sense to me.

I terminaled in to check things out now that it is running and JRUN was
99-100% again for a duration then let go. Im logged in now running 50-98%
idle.
Hmmm I'm just now noticing that it is showing the 2 procs in the perf window
of the task manager where previously it only showed one...

Will look at the logs after the AV file check.

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:07 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

Are you seeing browser warnings on your system event logs? Also is this a
multihomed server - does it exist on multiple networks?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:02 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot

yeah, if its a DC, always takes forever to boot.  Robert, is it taking
long to boot up or taking long to shutdown?  Note a reboot requires
both of these actions.  I'm guessing its taking along time to shutdown
with your description of the CPU load.

Could be many things.  Load, third-part connections such as databases,
or just bad code can cause these things.  Check out the logs in the
CFAdmin tool.  Look in the server one and look for entries with
'request timeout' mentioned.

DK

On 6/30/06, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is your web server also a domain controller?
>
> John
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:21 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Slow Site Starting on Reboot
>
> I have a dual 1GB server with 1GB Ram as our live server using W2K, and
> MySQL with CF6
>
> Lately we have had to wait a longer and longer duration during reboots to
> get the CF site working.
>
> I just went through a 5 reboot round with the live server trying to get it
> to host the site.
>
> Randomly the WWW Service would hang, or if it would run the CF site would
> return a JRUN timeout error.
>
> Looking at the Event Viewer there were no CF errors and it started
properly.
> The Task Manager Showed 95-100% processor activity and was hung on
JRUN.exe
> that whole time. Finally the 5th reboot took about 10 mins while I was
> looking around trying to find a pattern to this activity (or inactivity
> should I say) and suddenly the JRUN.exe let go and the site showed up on a
> Browser F5 Refresh.
>
> You gurus have any idea what gives with this thing?
>
> Robert P. Reil
> Managing Director,
> Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
> 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
> Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
> Office 770-974-8851
> Fax 770-974-8852
> www.motorcyclecarbs.com
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