Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread madduck
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky e.gorodin...@gmail.com [2009.11.28.1600 +0100]: Don't get me wrong, you have a noble goal, but if my experience with vcs-pkg.org is any indication, then the aforementioned large distros don't care. Why should Debian, RedHat/Fedora, and probably

Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
2009/11/29 martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net: also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky e.gorodin...@gmail.com [2009.11.29.1049 +0100]: Do you have any estimation how long it would take for the time invested into development, deployment, and bug fixing to be amortised? No, I don't unfortunately.

Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread madduck
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky e.gorodin...@gmail.com [2009.11.29.1618 +0100]: It's the same here, except that instead of money you're investing time, and instead of education you get a more efficient system. At least that's how I see it. I might be wrong and this system might not be more

Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Tom Arnold t0m4rn...@gmail.com [2009.11.29.1230 +0100]: I know there have been many attempts and I think it is kind of sad that RH, Novell and Debian can't agree on something LSB-based. Serving users is never wrong and it would certainly make the pie bigger for everybody. But

Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky e.gorodin...@gmail.com [2009.11.29.1948 +0100]: Not really. It's possible to standardise just on shared libraries for example. Providing the software is self-contained, it will be able to work on compliant distributions if it just uses those libraries to interact

Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
Sorry, accidentally pressed send... 2009/11/29 madd...@madduck.net: Yes, in some ways that would be nice, but there'd be disadvantages. First of all, as I just wrote, dependence on commercial players would shrink, so don't expect much support from them. Second, the one-size-fits-all distro

Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
2009/11/29 martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net: also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky e.gorodin...@gmail.com [2009.11.29.1948 +0100]: Not really. It's possible to standardise just on shared libraries for example. Providing the software is self-contained, it will be able to work on compliant

Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky e.gorodin...@gmail.com [2009.11.29.2101 +0100]: To remove redundancy, you'd have to remove the metadata from the binary packages. That's surely doable, but would also mean that a single .deb file would become useless: you could not obtain meta data from it,

Re: Universal package specification

2009-11-29 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
2009/11/29 martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net: also sprach Eugene Gorodinsky e.gorodin...@gmail.com [2009.11.29.2101 +0100]: To remove redundancy, you'd have to remove the metadata from the binary packages. That's surely doable, but would also mean that a single .deb file would become