Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 5 Oct, 2009, at 13:54, Tarek Ziadé wrote: On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: Nobody will adopt it until they are forced to. This unfortunate bug means people are forced to quicker than expected. I don't think that's an actual problem. This

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread David Cournapeau
Tarek Ziadé wrote: The proper answer is : Setuptools is on the top of Distutils and has to evolve with it. And since it monkey patches it, it has to be changed when a Distutils release breaks it. I want to note that the issue here is not monkey-patching, it is subclassing the command classes.

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Alex Grönholm
P.J. Eby kirjoitti: At 11:53 AM 10/5/2009 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: 2009/10/5 Jeff Rush j...@taupro.com: Very unfortunate, as in, it should NOT have happened. And *especially* without any announcement on python.org or mention on the python-committers list of something this major.

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread David Cournapeau
K. Richard Pixley wrote: Alex Grönholm wrote: There is a lack of consensus regarding how exactly they should work. If we are having this much trouble deciding how a third party tool should work, it is certainly not going to be merged into distutils until those issues have been resolved.

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Ned Deily
An update on the immediate issue: after discussion elsewhere, it was decided that there were enough other problems with 2.6.3 to warrant a quick release of 2.6.4. Tarek has checked in a change to distutils to unbreak the setuptools currently out in the field. If all goes well, 2.6.4 should

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Chris Withers
kiorky wrote: Hi, for the folks using virtualenv-distribute, i forked it to make the last 0.6.3 install instead of 0.6.1. See : http://bitbucket.org/kiorky/virtualenv-distribute/ Install it: easy_install

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/10/6 Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk: kiorky wrote: Hi, for the folks using virtualenv-distribute, i forked it to make the last 0.6.3 install instead of 0.6.1. See : http://bitbucket.org/kiorky/virtualenv-distribute/ Install it: easy_install

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/10/6 Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: I think it's a fork of Virtualenv, no? Which uses a fork of distribute. :) I meant that it uses a fork of setuptools, obviously -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread kiorky
It's just a fork of virtualenv to use distribute. It does not use a fork of distribute but distribute itself ;) Lennart Regebro a écrit : 2009/10/6 Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: I think it's a fork of Virtualenv, no? Which uses a fork of distribute. :) I meant that it uses a fork of

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread kiorky
Anyway, it's released now on pypi as virtualenv-distribute-1.3.4.2. The code is also merged in florian branch and it has been decided that's the main repository. kiorky a écrit : It's just a fork of virtualenv to use distribute. It does not use a fork of distribute but distribute itself ;)

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/10/6 kiorky kio...@cryptelium.net: Anyway, it's released now on pypi as virtualenv-distribute-1.3.4.2. The code is also merged in florian branch and it has been decided that's the main repository. What is the florian branch, and in general, could you provide some more info. Your emails

[Distutils] Distribute install problem on Snow Leopard

2009-10-06 Thread Ralf Gommers
Hi, I installed Distribute on a Snow Leopard box using the default Python that comes with OS X. I used the installation method recommended in the docs, the distribute_setup.py script. Now easy_install fails no matter what package I try to install (it does not get around to looking for the name of

Re: [Distutils] Distribute install problem on Snow Leopard

2009-10-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I installed Distribute on a Snow Leopard box using the default Python that comes with OS X. I used the installation method recommended in the docs, the distribute_setup.py script. Now easy_install fails no

Re: [Distutils] Distribute install problem on Snow Leopard

2009-10-06 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I installed Distribute on a Snow Leopard box using the default Python that comes with OS X. I used the installation method

Re: [Distutils] Distribute install problem on Snow Leopard

2009-10-06 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, that fixed it. Thanks! Great. The bug is still to be fixed though, would you mind adding an issue following this link:

Re: [Distutils] Distribute install problem on Snow Leopard

2009-10-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Ralf Gommers ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com wrote: Reported as issue #59. Thank you -- Tarek Ziadé | http://ziade.org | オープンソースはすごい! | 开源传万世,因有你参与 ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Bill Janssen
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: Installing distribute is therefore not problematic for most people, if they know that the project exists. The fact that distribute is a seperate project from setuptools can be a problem for people: installing a bugfix release for a software

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread kiorky
Hi Lennart, If i read 'virtualenv-distribute 1.3.4.2 on pypi' I can do some googling or even do some Pypi searching for 'virtualenv-distribute'. Thus, the first link found may be [1]. On this link, the second sentence is: The fork was started by Philip Jenvey at

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote: For me, it's more a matter of OS X 10.6 already comes with setuptools; how can I mitigate the impact of this buggy unmaintained package on the systems I'm building to deploy on OS X?.  Adding distribute to the mix, however

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread P.J. Eby
At 09:20 AM 10/6/2009 +0300, Alex Grönholm wrote: P.J. Eby kirjoitti: At 11:53 AM 10/5/2009 +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: 2009/10/5 Jeff Rush j...@taupro.com: Very unfortunate, as in, it should NOT have happened. And *especially* without any announcement on python.org or mention on the

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
2009/10/6 P.J. Eby p...@telecommunity.com: Yes, but that's got nothing to do with the bug that's been being discussed.  The same change bit pywin32, and it doesn't use setuptools at all. True. The problem was a badly documented interface, which meant people used it in one way, but a bug fix

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Sridhar Ratnakumar
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:25:04 -0700, kiorky kio...@cryptelium.net wrote: The fork was started by Philip Jenvey at http://bitbucket.org/pjenvey/virtualenv-distribute/ and this version by Florian Schulze lives at http://bitbucket.org/fschulze/virtualenv-distribute/ [1] -

[Distutils] ANN: ActivePython 2.6.3.7 (and PyPM) is now available

2009-10-06 Thread Sridhar Ratnakumar
I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.6.3.7 is now available for download from: http://www.activestate.com/activepython/ This is a patch-level release that updates ActivePython to core Python 2.6.3 along with the fixes for a couple of critical regressions that instigated the work on

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Kevin Teague
On Oct 6, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com wrote: For me, it's more a matter of OS X 10.6 already comes with setuptools; how can I mitigate the impact of this buggy unmaintained package on the systems I'm building to

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lennart Regebro wrote: 2009/10/5 Jeff Rush j...@taupro.com: Very unfortunate, as in, it should NOT have happened. And *especially* without any announcement on python.org or mention on the python-committers list of something this major. Well

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-06 Thread David Cournapeau
Tres Seaver wrote: Bugfixes which break backward compatibility in minor relaseses are major fouls, period. Sure, but what does backward compatibility even mean for distutils ? Not much, as any non trivial extension needs to use undocumented implementation details. As PJE points out, the