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Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io writes:
Sadly with how the code in pip is written, sometimes it’s just not
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How can I ‘import docutils’ in ‘setup.py’ without creating a circular
dependency:
* The correct way to get Docutils installed is to run ‘setup.py’ and
have it install the dependencies.
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What I need is a way to express “ensure Docutils
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On 01/20/2015 07:28 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
What I need is a way to express “ensure Docutils is installed before
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That has worked for me. But it appears to cause problems for some
others, related to this module which should not be installed.
This discussion was prompted, for me, by this bug report
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As it stands (‘python-daemon’ [0] version 2.0.3), the ‘version.py’ file
is correctly included in the source distribution, correctly used by the
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On 7 November 2014 16:52, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
If I was required to provide packages for MS Windows, the only viable
solutions would be those that don't involve me obtaining an MS Windows
instance myself.
For that usage
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Just out of interest, which restrictions would those be?
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At this point, people are just going to keep calling this entity a
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systems out there.
I'm not sure that's
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