[Distutils] Re: Should an sdist/MANIFEST.in include docs and tests?

2018-09-09 Thread Ben Finney
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[Distutils] Re: Should an sdist/MANIFEST.in include docs and tests?

2018-09-09 Thread Ben Finney
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[Distutils] Re: Should an sdist/MANIFEST.in include docs and tests?

2018-09-09 Thread Ben Finney
wish-I-was-still-bored, and it | _o__) goes downhill from there.” —Will Larson, 2008-11-04 | Ben Finney -- Distutils-SIG mailing list -- distutils-sig@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to distutils-sig-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mm3/mailman3/lists/distutils-sig.p

[Distutils] Re: Packaging Advice for EFF's Certbot

2018-07-26 Thread Ben Finney via Distutils-SIG
documentation. -- \ “There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore | `\ looking like an idiot.” —Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney -- Distutils-SIG mailing list -- distutils-sig@pyt

Re: [Distutils] Improving Communication

2018-04-21 Thread Ben Finney
y-owned platforms for community discussion. -- \ “Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything | `\that's even remotely true!” —Homer, _The Simpsons_ | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] Distributing packages to offline machines

2018-04-06 Thread Ben Finney
are the tool of choice for the internet | _o__) highwayman.” —Anthony Taylor | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] PEP 517 - is it ready?

2017-09-29 Thread Ben Finney
lize that what you heard is not what I | _o__) meant.” —Robert J. McCloskey | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] setup.cfg - to interpolate or not to interpolate

2017-07-28 Thread Ben Finney
on Permezel, hanoi.el | `\ _Tower of Hanoi_ source code, Unix doomsday version, 1985 | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Upload documentation to be hosted at ‘pythonhosted.org’

2017-07-13 Thread Ben Finney
there, in the room talking to you, which is why I don't like to | _o__) read good books.” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] Upload documentation to be hosted at ‘pythonhosted.org’

2017-07-04 Thread Ben Finney
nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all | `\others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking | _o__) power called an idea” —Thomas Jefferson, 1813-08-13 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distuti

Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-24 Thread Ben Finney
ld still be a very stupid thing to | _o__) do!” —The Doctor, _The Two Doctors_ | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Ben Finney
– that the Crossover state will active? -- \ “… correct code is great, code that crashes could use | `\ improvement, but incorrect code that doesn’t crash is a | _o__)horrible nightmare.” —Chris Smith, 2008-08-22 | Ben Finney ___

Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Ben Finney
Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> writes: > On 23 June 2017 at 20:44, Ben Finney <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > > What is the cross-over period: ‘pypi.org’ as the primary > > recommendation, while ‘pypi.python.org’ continues to work? > > Full migration

Re: [Distutils] ANNOUNCE: Sunsetting of uploading to the legacy PyPI/TestPyPI

2017-06-23 Thread Ben Finney
an never entirely stop being what you once were. That's | `\ why it's important to be the right person today, and not put it | _o__) off until tomorrow.” —Larry Wall | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-S

Re: [Distutils] Which commercial vendor?

2017-04-10 Thread Ben Finney
.” | _o__) —Edsger W. Dijkstra | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] GnuPG signatures on PyPI: why so few?

2017-03-12 Thread Ben Finney
;URL:https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/>, a useful walk through how to set it up properly. -- \ “I must say that I find television very educational. The minute | `\ somebody turns it on, I go to the library and read a book.” | _o__)

Re: [Distutils] GnuPG signatures on PyPI: why so few?

2017-03-11 Thread Ben Finney
ing tool support to make it easier. -- \“The fact of your own existence is the most astonishing fact | `\you'll ever have to confront. Don't dare ever see your life as | _o__)boring, monotonous, or joyless.” —Richard Dawkins, 2010-03-10 | Ben Finney _

Re: [Distutils] Python 3.5

2017-03-11 Thread Ben Finney
Dijkstra | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Can't upload sdist: "File already exists"

2016-12-25 Thread Ben Finney
nt freedom for the recipient. -- \ “Liberty, n. One of imagination's most precious possessions.” | `\ —Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_, 1906 | _o__) | Ben Finney _

[Distutils] Different purposes for Setuptools requirements versus Pip requirements (was: Maintaining a curated set of Python packages)

2016-12-08 Thread Ben Finney
/07/setup-vs-requirement/> -- \ “Corporation, n. An ingenious device for obtaining individual | `\ profit without individual responsibility.” —Ambrose Bierce, | _o__) _The Devil's Dictionary_, 1906 | Ben Finney __

Re: [Distutils] Interrogate distribution for an entry point command path

2016-10-15 Thread Ben Finney
rom Setuptools itself at run time, what filesystem path Setuptools installed the command to. -- \“I took it easy today. I just pretty much layed around in my | `\underwear all day. … Got kicked out of quite a few places, | _o__) though.” —Bug-E

Re: [Distutils] Interrogate distribution for an entry point command path

2016-10-15 Thread Ben Finney
hat any | `\ view is automatically as worthy of respect as any equal and | _o__) opposite view.” —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Interrogate distribution for an entry point command path

2016-10-15 Thread Ben Finney
I'm in a submarine that's been hit.” —Steven | _o__) Wright | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] Interrogate distribution for an entry point command path

2016-10-15 Thread Ben Finney
invoke? -- \ “Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics. You can | `\leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.” | _o__) —Richard M. Stallman, 2002-07-26 | Ben Finney ___ Distuti

[Distutils] Consumers that care about the contents of an sdist (was: abstract build system PEP update)

2016-02-17 Thread Ben Finney
your own existence is the most astonishing fact | `\you'll ever have to confront. Don't dare ever see your life as | _o__)boring, monotonous, or joyless.” —Richard Dawkins, 2010-03-10 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SI

[Distutils] Ensuring source availability for PyPI entries (was: PEP: Build system abstraction for pip/conda etc)

2016-02-09 Thread Ben Finney
stribution on PyPI if that were to become easier. [0] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2014-May/024224.html -- \ “DRM doesn't inconvenience [lawbreakers] — indeed, over time it | `\ trains law-abiding users to become [lawbreakers] out of sheer | _o__

Re: [Distutils] version conflict

2016-02-05 Thread Ben Finney
| `\ away until all these things [the end of the world] have | _o__) happened.” —Jesus, c. 30 CE, as quoted in Matthew 24:34 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Building and installing packages on a (unix) system lacking network accesss

2015-12-23 Thread Ben Finney
'm pondering?” “I think so, | `\ Brain, but if they called them ‘Sad Meals’, kids wouldn't buy | _o__)them!” —_Pinky and The Brain_ | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.p

Re: [Distutils] The future of invoking pip

2015-11-08 Thread Ben Finney
rt Einstein | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Please don't impose additional barriers to participation

2015-10-28 Thread Ben Finney
Robert Collins <robe...@robertcollins.net> writes: > On 28 October 2015 at 18:02, Ben Finney <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> wrote: > > Please keep the conversation on a mailing list where one can > > participate without needing to sign up with any particular servic

Re: [Distutils] Time for a setuptools_lite??

2015-10-28 Thread Ben Finney
end of any cloud | _o__) computing pitch.” —Simon Phipps, 2010-12-11 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] Please don't impose additional barriers to participation (was: build system abstraction PEP)

2015-10-27 Thread Ben Finney
Stranger than fiction.” —“Lord” George Gordon Noel Byron, _Don | _o__) Juan_ | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] red, green, refactor OR red, green, new feature?

2015-10-21 Thread Ben Finney
t. What TDD does is allow the programer to do that with confidence. -- \“Intellectual property is to the 21st century what the slave | `\ trade was to the 16th.” —David Mertz | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] PyPi not allowing duplicate filenames

2015-10-15 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney <ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au> writes: > Apache License 2.0 imposes no additional reastrictions on the > recipient of a work licensed under GNU GPL v3. So that meets the > conditions of both. Apache License 2.0 does impose further restrictions not found in GPL v

Re: [Distutils] PyPi not allowing duplicate filenames

2015-10-14 Thread Ben Finney
ofit without individual responsibility.” —Ambrose Bierce, | _o__) _The Devil's Dictionary_, 1906 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Where should I put tests when packaging python modules?

2015-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
hours of 9 and 11 a.m. daily.” —hotel, Athens | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Where should I put tests when packaging python modules?

2015-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
ki, 2008-06-27 | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Where should I put tests when packaging python modules?

2015-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
ave never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: ‘O | `\ Lord, make my enemies ridiculous!’ And God granted it.” | _o__) —Voltaire | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillis

Re: [Distutils] Where should I put tests when packaging python modules?

2015-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
iety and leads to its intellectual | _o__)impoverishment.” —Albert Einstein | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Where should I put tests when packaging python modules?

2015-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
Barry Warsaw <ba...@python.org> writes: > On Oct 07, 2015, at 08:54 AM, Ben Finney wrote: > > >Barry Warsaw <ba...@python.org> writes: > > > >> I'm a big fan of putting the tests inside the package. I've often > >> looked at a package's

Re: [Distutils] Working toward Linux wheel support

2015-09-06 Thread Ben Finney
h a fortune!” —The Goon Show, _The Sale of | _o__) Manhattan_ | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Reviving PEP 470 - Removing External Hosting support on PyPI

2015-08-26 Thread Ben Finney
everything to itself, leaving | `\ nothing for faith.” —Bernard of Clairvaux, 1090–1153 CE | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https

[Distutils] Version management for devpi (was: devpi-{server-2.2.2, web-2.4.0, client-2.3.0} releases)

2015-07-09 Thread Ben Finney
upon by an outside force.” —Carol Reichel | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Accessing package data files in wheels

2015-06-27 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] PyPI and Uploading Documentation

2015-05-16 Thread Ben Finney
business of religion profoundly interesting. | `\ But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take | _o__)it seriously.” —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] PyPI is a sick sick hoarder

2015-05-15 Thread Ben Finney
the historical versions. -- \ “If history and science have taught us anything, it is that | `\ passion and desire are not the same as truth.” —E. O. Wilson, | _o__) _Consilience_, 1998 | Ben Finney

[Distutils] Dynamic linking between Python modules (was: Beyond wheels 1.0: helping downstream, FHS and more)

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Finney
, but they come often enough. We | `\ need not force the hand of nature.” —Carl Sagan, _Cosmos_, 1980 | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https

Re: [Distutils] Beyond wheel 1.0: more fine-grained installation scheme

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Finney
A. Hrastar | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-14 Thread Ben Finney
I was asking for. -- \ “For mad scientists who keep brains in jars, here's a tip: why | `\ not add a slice of lemon to each jar, for freshness?” —Jack | _o__) Handey | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-14 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] pip/warehouse feature idea: help needed

2015-04-13 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] it's happened - wheels without sdists (flit)

2015-03-31 Thread Ben Finney
and education to be | _o__)appreciated.” —Edsger W. Dijkstra | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] setup_requires for dev environments

2015-03-15 Thread Ben Finney
glued on a screen: the average American family | _o__) hasn't time for it.” —_The New York Times_, 1939 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-06 Thread Ben Finney
better I think. -- \ “Don't be misled by the enormous flow of money into bad defacto | `\standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor adaptations of | _o__) incomplete ideas.” —Alan Kay | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments

2015-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io writes: Sadly with how the code in pip is written, sometimes it’s just not reasonable to make small PRs because things are not well factored and changing things requires touching a lot of different areas. I've

[Distutils] Implementing large changes in small increments (was: Getting more momentum for pip)

2015-03-05 Thread Ben Finney
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[Distutils] Upload signature (and signing key) after package upload

2015-02-22 Thread Ben Finney
breach the terms of service – | `\ according to our sole judgement” to the end of any cloud | _o__) computing pitch.” —Simon Phipps, 2010-12-11 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https

Re: [Distutils] Upload signature (and signing key) after package upload

2015-02-22 Thread Ben Finney
at that point. People sharing music in | _o__)their bedrooms is the new radio.” —Neil Young, 2008-05-06 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Documenting the Distutils sdist format

2015-01-29 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] How to implement ‘setup.py’ functionality that itself needs third-party distributions

2015-01-22 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: How can I ‘import docutils’ in ‘setup.py’ without creating a circular dependency: * The correct way to get Docutils installed is to run ‘setup.py’ and have it install the dependencies. […] What I need is a way to express “ensure Docutils

Re: [Distutils] How to implement ‘setup.py’ functionality that itself needs third-party distributions

2015-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
to be an odd number.” —Steven | _o__) Wright | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] How to implement ‘setup.py’ functionality that itself needs third-party distributions

2015-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
, not less. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding? -- \“If you go parachuting, and your parachute doesn't open, and | `\you friends are all watching you fall, I think a funny gag | _o__) would be to pretend you were swimming.” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] How to implement ‘setup.py’ functionality that itself needs third-party distributions

2015-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
Carl Meyer c...@oddbird.net writes: On 01/20/2015 07:28 PM, Ben Finney wrote: What I need is a way to express “ensure Docutils is installed before continuing with other Setuptools actions” in ‘setup.py’. I don't know of a neat way to tell Setuptools that. That is the precise purpose

Re: [Distutils] How to implement ‘setup.py’ functionality that itself needs third-party distributions

2015-01-20 Thread Ben Finney
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[Distutils] How to implement ‘setup.py’ functionality that itself needs third-party distributions (was: Module from install breaks subsequent install of different distribution)

2015-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
this distribution, without making an utter mess? -- \“The whole area of [treating source code as intellectual | `\property] is almost assuring a customer that you are not going | _o__) to do any innovation in the future.” —Gary Barnett | Ben Finney

[Distutils] Module from install breaks subsequent install of different distribution (was: Python module for use in ‘setup.py’ but not to install)

2015-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au writes: That has worked for me. But it appears to cause problems for some others, related to this module which should not be installed. This discussion was prompted, for me, by this bug report URL:https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid

Re: [Distutils] Python module for use in ‘setup.py’ but not to install

2015-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
’ in this regard, without thrashing many releases of a package upload to PyPI? -- \ “The internet's completely over.… Anyway, all these computers | `\and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with | _o__) numbers and that can't be good for you.” —Prince, 2010-07-05 | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] Documenting the Distutils sdist format

2015-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
, a response pointing me to that document would be fine. -- \ “Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.” (“Whatever is | `\ said in Latin, sounds profound.”) —anonymous | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] Module from install breaks subsequent install of different distribution

2015-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
) Controversial Questions_, 1889 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] Documenting the Distutils sdist format (was: Python module for use in ‘setup.py’ but not to install)

2015-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
? -- \ “What is it that makes a complete stranger dive into an icy | `\ river to save a solid gold baby? Maybe we'll never know.” —Jack | _o__) Handey | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist

Re: [Distutils] Python module for use in ‘setup.py’ but not to install

2015-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
by the reasoning though. -- \ “Anyone who puts a small gloss on [a] fundamental technology, | `\ calls it proprietary, and then tries to keep others from | _o__) building on it, is a thief.” —Tim O'Reilly, 2000-01-25 | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] Python module for use in ‘setup.py’ but not to install

2015-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Python module for use in ‘setup.py’ but not to install

2015-01-18 Thread Ben Finney
Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io writes: On Jan 17, 2015, at 7:47 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: As it stands (‘python-daemon’ [0] version 2.0.3), the ‘version.py’ file is correctly included in the source distribution, correctly used by the ‘egg_info.writers’ entry point

[Distutils] Python module for use in ‘setup.py’ but not to install

2015-01-17 Thread Ben Finney
/2.0.3. -- \ “The entertainment industry calls DRM security software, | `\ because it makes them secure from their customers.” —Cory | _o__) Doctorow, 2014-02-05 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils

[Distutils] Distribution metadata: build timestamp of the distribution

2014-12-14 Thread Ben Finney
must | `\ not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true.” | _o__) —Albert Einstein | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman

[Distutils] Package's declared latest version ignored by Warehouse

2014-12-01 Thread Ben Finney
in the PyPI database. -- \ “He who allows oppression, shares the crime.” —Erasmus Darwin, | `\ grandfather of Charles Darwin | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] Package's declared latest version ignored by Warehouse

2014-12-01 Thread Ben Finney
. Some are a very great deal more | `\ robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument | _o__) than others.” —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org https

Re: [Distutils] Package's declared latest version ignored by Warehouse

2014-12-01 Thread Ben Finney
this version” feature. -- \ “Faith is the determination to remain ignorant in the face of | `\ all evidence that you are ignorant.” —Shaun Mason | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-07 Thread Ben Finney
Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: On 7 November 2014 16:52, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: If I was required to provide packages for MS Windows, the only viable solutions would be those that don't involve me obtaining an MS Windows instance myself. For that usage

Re: [Distutils] Call for information - What assumptions can I make about Unix users' access to Windows?

2014-11-07 Thread Ben Finney
Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com writes: Ben Finney wrote: The restrictions of the license terms make MS Windows an unacceptable risk on any machine I'm responsible for. Just out of interest, which restrictions would those be? It has been a long time since I bothered to read any

Re: [Distutils] DRAFT PEP 396 - module version number

2011-06-08 Thread Ben Finney
and talk like an idiot but don't let | `\ that fool you. He really is an idiot.” —Groucho Marx | _o__) | Ben Finney pgpzMM8LaKN5W.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] DRAFT PEP 396 - module version number

2011-06-08 Thread Ben Finney
of | `\ certain opinions makes it impossible to earn a living.” | _o__) —Bertrand Russell, _Free Thought and Official Propaganda_, 1928 | Ben Finney pgpluWOIsEqsP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org

Re: [Distutils] DRAFT PEP 396 - module version number

2011-06-08 Thread Ben Finney
that. I'd expect the __version__, if it exists, to be present in the file zope/testing/__init__.py. Yes, but how to specify that? The ‘__init__.py’ file is a module. What's that, then; a package module? Ben Finney wrote: I may be fighting against the tide here; but this screams to me

Re: [Distutils] DRAFT PEP 396 - module version number

2011-06-07 Thread Ben Finney
be another profound | _o__) truth.” —Niels Bohr | Ben Finney pgpRaz71oLCew.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] the usecase of continious integration based release-management (which could use more support on the ds2 side)

2011-03-23 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] stdeb gzipping some data_files

2010-11-28 Thread Ben Finney
, and I said nothing, for verbing | `\weirds language. Then, they arrival for the nouns and I speech | _o__) nothing, for I no verbs.” —Peter Ellis | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] docs/ vs doc/

2010-09-21 Thread Ben Finney
, but it's gone on too | `\long.” —Ogden Nash | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [Distutils] Including tests in source package

2010-08-21 Thread Ben Finney
that causes the problem you're seeing. -- \ “Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a | `\ good example.” —Mark Twain, _Pudd'n'head Wilson_ | _o__) | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] setuptools' Feature feature

2010-07-03 Thread Ben Finney
experiment :-) -- \ “In economics, hope and faith coexist with great scientific | `\ pretension and also a deep desire for respectability.” —John | _o__)Kenneth Galbraith, 1970-06-07 | Ben Finney

Re: [Distutils] Design rationale for the egg format ?

2010-06-14 Thread Ben Finney
on the relative | `\ importance of foodstuffs and human beings. Crazy people can't | _o__) tell the difference.” —Paul Z. Myers, 2010-04-18 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Distutils] pip vs easy_install vs distutils2

2010-06-03 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] install --dry-run broken?

2010-04-22 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] include special filetypes and subdirectories

2010-02-18 Thread Ben Finney
. -- \ “Reichel's Law: A body on vacation tends to remain on vacation | `\unless acted upon by an outside force.” —Carol Reichel | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] distribute 0.6.10 and convert_2to3_doctests

2010-01-29 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-12 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-12 Thread Ben Finney
can do no good, at least do no harm.” —_Slapstick_, | `\ Kurt Vonnegut | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-11 Thread Ben Finney
not to fool yourself. The first | `\ principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the | _o__) easiest person to fool.” —Richard P. Feynman, 1964 | Ben Finney ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-10 Thread Ben Finney
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Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-10 Thread Ben Finney
Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:40, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: At this point, people are just going to keep calling this entity a “package”, consistent with the majority of other languages and systems out there. I'm not sure that's

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

2010-01-10 Thread Ben Finney
Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: At this point, people are just going to keep calling this entity a “package”, consistent with the majority of other languages and systems out there. Who is people

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