Re: Removing url() ?

2020-05-05 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 11:42 AM Collin Anderson wrote: > Hi All, > Are we _sure_ we want to completely get rid of url()? > > I'm not! I'd be much happier with fewer tedious upgrade tasks and the ability to use client's money for new features rather than "keeping up", sigh. -- You received this

Re: RANDOM PICKING OF TWO DIFFERENT LISTS, ASSIGNING ONE ITEM FROM ONE LIST TO THE OTHER ITEM IN ANOTHER LIST

2019-05-11 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Template handling of undefined variables

2017-02-25 Thread Karen Tracey
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Fred Stluka wrote: > I agree that use of undefined variables should raise an exception. > The incompatibility with previous versions will mostly catch errors > that have been going undetected. > I disagree, unless you are limiting this change

Re: Template handling of undefined variables

2017-02-25 Thread Karen Tracey
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Tim Graham wrote: > I think any use of undefined template variables should raise an exception. > In the long run, keeping a setting to allow some other behavior seems > confusing and, considering the case of templates that might be reused in

Re: Use of HTML autofocus attribute in admin (#27692)

2017-01-06 Thread Karen Tracey
On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Tim Graham wrote: > Do you think we should remove autofocus from the search box to remedy this > complaint (and possibly go back to using JavaScript for that) or are there > any better solutions here? I personally find the existing

Re: Django 2.0 Python version support (Python 3.6+ only?)

2016-12-28 Thread Karen Tracey
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Claude Paroz wrote: > Any idea why my message in this thread was deleted? > No idea. It was held in moderation as "possible spam" for reason only Google Groups knows. When GG does this, it does not send moderators a note about it until 3 or 4

Re: how to design custom forms in django with bootstrap

2016-06-20 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: MySQL data loss possibility with concurrent ManyToManyField saves

2016-03-19 Thread Karen Tracey
This is the 2nd major issue I can recall caused by MySQL default of REPEATABLE READ transaction isolation level. I think Django should simply switch itself to a default of using READ COMMITTED, consistent with (all?) other supported database backends, and document how, if a user really really

Re: Looking for NYC based Django to complete project

2015-10-28 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Ticket #25236: Remove ifequal from the template language

2015-08-06 Thread Karen Tracey
We certainly weren't discussing removing without deprecating, were we? I'm saying removing isn't worth the hassle to users, period. My opinion from working on a fair number of inherited sites, plus sites where I don't get to choose who contributes code I'm responsible for maintaining. I've

Re: Ticket #25236: Remove ifequal from the template language

2015-08-06 Thread Karen Tracey
Believe me I understand what technical debt is. In my opinion the cost of this debt in Django is not sufficient to warrant the cost to users of Django to remove it. Find and fix (or figure out if it's necessary to fix) all templates (some of which may be coming from 3rd party packages) used in a

Re: Ticket #25236: Remove ifequal from the template language

2015-08-06 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Daniel Greenfeld wrote: > No modern project uses ifequal. No one recommends it. I argue it is taking > up valuable bytes in the project. Let's remove it. > I maintain (did not write) a project written last year that has ifequal and ifnotequal.

Re: CSRF REASON_NO_REFERER with meta referrer tags

2015-02-02 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Custom 400 error handler or capture broken URLs

2014-10-10 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Newsletter in django (MailChimp)

2014-04-23 Thread Karen Tracey
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2014-03-12 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: python-social-auth partial pipeline can not resume

2014-01-10 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Django ORM support for NoSql databases

2013-12-17 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Aymeric Augustin < aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org> wrote: > On 17 déc. 2013, at 19:53, Javier Guerra Giraldez > wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Aymeric Augustin > > wrote: > >> Django’s

Re: Enable storing NULL in database

2013-11-07 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Vlastimil Zíma wrote: > I don't want to enforce anybody to use only NULL as empty value, I just > want Django to store NULL in database when I told it to. And I don't mean > the way of overriding all the form fields as I have to now. > A

Re: Backwards compatibility and field validation

2013-10-17 Thread Karen Tracey
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Russell Keith-Magee < russ...@keith-magee.com> wrote: > >> 1) Without taking backwards compatibility into consideration, is it >> reasonable to expect field validation automatically upon calling >> model.save() >> > > Yes. Based on the original discussions (as I

Re: Nginx and Ubuntu Service Define

2013-10-14 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Django session not saved

2013-10-05 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: track user behavior in a django application

2013-09-23 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: A help for development

2013-08-31 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Which Django library to bild fb app?

2013-08-29 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: custom auth user

2013-08-26 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Any Tutorials on Django similar to Web2py ????????????????

2013-08-20 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: how get user session name in models django??

2013-08-05 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Django runfcgi umask: what is it meant to do and why?

2013-06-29 Thread Karen Tracey
git blame on the line that sets the umask shows it was as a result of ticket #6994: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/6994 Discussion in that ticket is probably the best information you are going to get on rationale. Karen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: selected admin actions for a user, who is owner of one of the tenants in a multi tenant django crm app

2013-06-19 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Send Mail Group Select from Employee Model

2013-06-10 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Question on Template Tags

2013-06-08 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: The _imaging C module is not installed. Anybody can help me?

2013-06-07 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Django+GoogleAppengine(datastore)

2013-06-06 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Making __repr__ safe by default

2013-05-19 Thread Karen Tracey
I agree with Anssi, repr should stay as-is. I do a lot of shell/pdb work and I can't recall ever encountering a problem with "unsafe" repr. I think many people would find it annoying if suddenly repr would tell you no more than the pk of the object. Karen -- You received this message because

Re: Adding a simple yes/no confirm before committing instance to database

2013-05-06 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re:

2013-05-02 Thread Karen Tracey
You posted this here less than an hour after posting on django-users, that hardly seems time enough to consider it "ignored" there. Also, you might want to include a subject in your emails, particularly for high-traffic lists I would not be surprised if some people simply scan the subjects for

Re: tutorial url broken

2013-04-29 Thread Karen Tracey
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:52 PM, gilberto dos santos alves wrote: > > Hi. on this url:: [1] we have this link url:: [2] broken. > > url:: [1] https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/Tutorials > > That's in the wiki, which is (generally, except for some pages which are locked down

Re: Newbie: import start end edit an existing django project

2013-04-26 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: facebook/twitter sharing, and testing

2013-04-10 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Implementing Full Text Search in Django --Ticket #3254

2013-03-21 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Luke Sneeringer wrote: > I would expect that the biggest problem with implementing something like > this would be that MySQL is going to be a tough cookie to address. InnoDB > supports foreign key constraints but not full-text indexing, while

Re: memory leak in django 1.5

2013-03-21 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Craig de Stigter wrote: > Hi everyone > > (cross-posted because this seems relevant to both django-users and > developers, and both might have experienced this problem) > > We've noticed a gradual increase in memory usage for our apache

Re: Django 1.4.4 and contrib/sessions/management/__init__.pyc

2013-02-19 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Nick Popoff wrote: > In the case of ./contrib/sessions/management/__init__.pyc an __init__.py > is not provided. > > Is it possible compiled 2.7 .pyc files were included instead of .py files > by mistake? > The .pyc files were certainly

Re: Database pooling vs. persistent connections

2013-02-18 Thread Karen Tracey
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > As far as I know, the MySQL timeout time is configurable, and the default > is 8 hours. > Assuming this is what does: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/server-system-variables.html#sysvar_wait_timeoutthat sounds

Re: Database pooling vs. persistent connections

2013-02-18 Thread Karen Tracey
Just a couple of random quick thoughts: Will persistent connections be able to ensure that "bad connections" (e.g. those in state "current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block") don't leak from one request to another? MySQL, at least, will close a connection

Re: PROBLEM WITH MY CUSTOMIZED save() method

2013-02-16 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Error with GET 200 and GET 304

2013-02-13 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Guidance regarding Django Deployment Process

2013-02-09 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Problem with Custom Manage.py command and Crontab

2013-02-06 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: How can i use Knockout Java Script with my Django Project?

2013-02-02 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: search across models

2013-02-02 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: python_2_unicode_compatible pitfalls

2012-12-27 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Aymeric Augustin < aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org> wrote: > 2) under Python 2.x __str__ is implemented as __unicode__ >encoded to utf8. > > > Yes, this is a legacy behavior that I strongly disagree with. It > makes __str__ / __unicode__ handling for Model

Re: A regression that isn't a regression

2012-12-20 Thread Karen Tracey
This has come up before, see: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/17974 1.3 is security-fix only at this point, we'd have to make a pretty big exception to put anything into 1.3 to warn users of their mis-use of an undocumented parameter to distinct Karen -- You received this message

Re: New to Django; walking through djangoproject tutorial; can't get poll to work

2012-12-18 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Charset for URL decoding (#19468)

2012-12-18 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Aymeric Augustin < aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org> wrote: > > Currently, Django uses utf-8. As far as I can tell, that's more a > side-effect of (ab)using force_str than anything else. It also has the > drawback of making it impossible to serve perfectly legit

Re: Possible bug with GenericRelations and values_list

2012-12-10 Thread Karen Tracey
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Skylar Saveland wrote: > > I posted this in the django-users group but I think it may merit posting > here, as well. I have a test case which I think should pass. > > >

Re: Blocker for 1.5 - representation of filesystem paths in Django

2012-12-02 Thread Karen Tracey
My preference is for option 2: convert file system paths to unicode and use unicode internally as much as possible. This is consistent with what we have been doing/recommending for years, even if it is at odds with Python's default for 2.X. See for example:

Re: how to write a text editing in the webpage using django

2012-11-17 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Google groups - possible issues with deleted posts.

2012-11-17 Thread Karen Tracey
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Tom Christie wrote: > Be aware that there may be issues with google groups at the moment... Sigh. > There are two messages in this > thread > that >

Re: Feature request: collectstatic shouldn't recopy files that already exist in destination

2012-09-27 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Dan Loewenherz wrote: > The problem I've run into is that collectstatic copies all files, > regardless of whether they already exist on the destination. No, as noted in the ticket, which has been closed needsinfo, staticfiles already only

Re: DatabaseFeatures and supports_transactions

2012-09-25 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:24 AM, maxi <maxiroba...@gmail.com> wrote: > El martes, 25 de septiembre de 2012 09:05:47 UTC-3, Karen Tracey escribió: > >> First, this method is used during testing, generally not during normal >> operation. It's implemented as a cached prope

Re: DatabaseFeatures and supports_transactions

2012-09-25 Thread Karen Tracey
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:15 PM, maxi wrote: > Hi, > > DatabseFeatures class has a supports_transactions property for test if the > db engine support transactions. > supports_transactions implementation makes some metadata alters to check > this behaivor. > > Now, is

Re: #3011 - Custom User Models -- Call for final review

2012-09-16 Thread Karen Tracey
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Anssi Kääriäinen wrote: > I meant to say that after this is committed to 1.5, should we allow for > some polishing changes to get in after feature freeze even if they are > technically feature additions. > The kinds of changes you are

Re: Is there any plan to improve the performance of "render"?

2012-09-12 Thread Karen Tracey
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:56 PM, 富弘刘 wrote: > I use django-debug-toolbar to analyze my website and noticed a lot of time > is consumed by template render. In my each page, I have about 10ms in > database queries, and about 100 ms in render. Have you tried using the cached

Re: DJango and OrientDB

2012-09-11 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Sajjada Akhter wrote: > My question was should I write db driver etc but I do so I will need to be > able to participate in framework Dev right? > > You'll have a wider audience who may be able to answer this question: > I am not sure if

Re: DJango and OrientDB

2012-09-11 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Example on bitmap charts

2012-08-29 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: After form validation, need to post and call a perl program to display to a log file

2012-08-24 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Can someone help me on how to handle this scenario ?

2012-08-21 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: ManyToManyField

2012-08-20 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Need Django experts to explain some of my questions in bay Area, CA

2012-08-19 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: #18557: get_or_create() causes a race condition with MySQL

2012-08-11 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote: > Sorry, please ignore that last message, I see now that you > were referring to this: > > https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/databases/#autocommit-mode > > So essentially, the

Re: Separate file stream from request input stream during file uploading

2012-08-10 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: #18557: get_or_create() causes a race condition with MySQL

2012-08-08 Thread Karen Tracey
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote: > I'm not entirely sure that suggesting every query needs to be committed is > the right way forward either, given that you only need to commit once > before get_or_create() is called

Re: #18557: get_or_create() causes a race condition with MySQL

2012-08-08 Thread Karen Tracey
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote: > Does anyone else have any input at this stage?? > > It seems to me that the most appropriate way forward is a documentation > update which explains that get_or_create() is not

Re: Add a form to admin side

2012-07-26 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: how a field and its value can be found in a queryset object

2012-07-24 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: horizontal alignment of forms in a formset without ajax

2012-07-02 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: (Model)Forms localize=True violates DRY

2012-06-22 Thread Karen Tracey
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Klaas van Schelven < klaasvanschel...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've created a ticket, but have always understood that calling > attention to tickets should be done separately on the Django- > developers mailinglist It's not necessary nor encouraged to call attention

Re: ModelForms and the Rails input handling vulnerability

2012-06-12 Thread Karen Tracey
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Alex Ogier wrote: > No one can sneak extra unexpected fields past a developer by editing HTML > client side, because if the field wasn't rendered to HTML it's not > going to validate. > But it may. If you have a template which renders

Re: Custom ForeignKey which does not require referential integrity?

2012-05-27 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: DJango 1.3 - BundleError while rendering

2012-05-18 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Django models and different types

2012-05-11 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: NoneType object has no attribute in POST/PUT a resource with nested resources (django, tastypie)

2012-05-10 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Test reordering and TransactionTestCase cleanup

2012-05-08 Thread Karen Tracey
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Anssi Kääriäinen wrote: > I would like to just get rid of the sequence resets. Oracle doesn't do > it currently, TestCase doesn't do it, and IMO assuming the IDs are > going to start from 1 is an assumption one should not make. > >

Re: How to serve staticfiles with full URL for local development?

2012-05-05 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Test reordering and TransactionTestCase cleanup

2012-05-04 Thread Karen Tracey
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Andreas Pelme wrote: > > That's a good question. Anyone who wrote to original > TransactionTestCase/reordering implementation that wants to chime in? :-) I worked on the test speedups that introduced TransactionTestCase and I added the

Re: Test reordering and TransactionTestCase cleanup

2012-05-03 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Andreas Pelme wrote: > > Djangos default testrunner reorders the test suite to run all TestCase tests > before TransactionTestCases, which avoids this problem. I cannot find this > reordering documented anywhere, It is documented:

Re: (List object(Recently Added - Most Common

2012-04-23 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: GitHub migration planning

2012-04-18 Thread Karen Tracey
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Dalton Barreto wrote: >> Maybe the best way to avoid that people create issues on github is to >> disable it for the >> official repository. This is possible through the Github's Admin interface. >> > > Hmm, this would probably disable pull

Re: Admin custom function calls

2012-04-02 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: list of function to django view

2012-03-17 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: Django participation in Google Summer of Code 2012

2012-03-08 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Joe & Anne Tennies wrote: > [snipped] It's mostly done at this point. It got done just before > the 1.4 lockdown, but it was too much risk to take on that late in the > release cycle. Also it's more cleanly done if we can drop support for

Re: no fixtures found error

2012-03-01 Thread Karen Tracey
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Re: How to show the template reserved keyword on html.

2012-02-19 Thread Karen Tracey
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Moderation broken

2012-01-28 Thread Karen Tracey
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Alec Taylor wrote: > Ah great, well at least now we know it won't happen again :D > > Except the moderation emails are still broken -- we're not getting any. Google groups help/problem reporting facilities are nonexistent. All I can find

Re: Multi-TZ should be in release notes

2011-12-25 Thread Karen Tracey
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Jeremy Dunck wrote: > I think Multi-TZ should get soms love in the release notes. > > https://code.djangoproject.com/changeset/17106 > > https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/releases/1.4-alpha-1/ > > Was it an oversight? > > It's here:

Re: Django-nonrel patches

2011-12-12 Thread Karen Tracey
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Wilfred Hughes wrote: > Following up on #17338 ([nonrel] supports_deleting_related_objects > database feature flag): > > carljm said that: > > > [Django] is (sort of) _emulating_ SQL cascading deletes, but it does so > in a way that

Re: Adding Support for PyMySQL (for Python 3)

2011-12-08 Thread Karen Tracey
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Vinay Sajip wrote: > On Dec 8, 6:46 am, Ian Clelland wrote: > > > > There also seem to be a number of unicode-related errors there (mixed > > collations; unrecognized characters) -- Could that be related to the > lines

Re: Bug: When editing unique_togethers in a modelformset you can't reverse values

2011-12-07 Thread Karen Tracey
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > I don't consider it a bug > that Django exposes a database error in this case. > I didn't hear what sounded like a database error in this case. The original note says: Upon attempting to save, you'll receive

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