Re: DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-18 Thread Gerard Petersen
Malcom, First, thanx for your enlighting feedback. I'm working with Django for 1,5 months now and the direction I read between the lines looks promising. Then, my reponse on Delta20's email was shot from the hip. My response therefore was not intended to offend anyone. Working with python for

Re: DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-17 Thread Rob Hudson
On Sep 17, 7:29 am, Delta20 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS: Does anyone know what Cal was using to show the queries in > Pownce(I think that's what it was)? That looked pretty handy. I don't know what tool it was or if it is available but I started a project with a similar purpose that is

Re: DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-17 Thread Jan Oberst
On Sep 17, 4:29 pm, Delta20 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS: Does anyone know what Cal was using to show the queries in > Pownce(I think that's what it was)? That looked pretty handy. Didn't he only briefly show the Pownce debugging toolbar on the very top of the page? The next slide is from

Re: DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-17 Thread Delta20
Thanks Malcolm for giving the background for some of this comments. Taken out of context, that talk was indeed a little bit misleading. Even without knowing the context, I felt that most of his points are not showstoppers for most projects. The good very comfortably outweighs the bad, so much so

Re: DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-16 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
The original summary wasn't a bad summary and Gerard's reactions were also tongue-in-cheek. But it's important to realise that Cal's presentation was at the end of a very long day of talks and he was largely focused on being entertaining. Hopefully people won't take it as unquestioned gospel. I

Re: DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-16 Thread Gerard Petersen
Sorry, couldn't help myself ... My 2 cents ... > - Python sucks, especially significant whitespace (I agree heartily. > Only Django keeps me using Python.) Disagree! > - Django could be a lot smarter about scaling the DB (sharding, > denormalization, etc) Questionable > - Inefficient session

Re: DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-16 Thread Delta20
True, it is a little much to transcribe, so I'll briefly summarize his main points for everyone else: - Python sucks, especially significant whitespace (I agree heartily. Only Django keeps me using Python.) - Django could be a lot smarter about scaling the DB (sharding, denormalization, etc) -

Re: DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-16 Thread Masklinn
On 16 Sep 2008, at 17:28 , Delta20 wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can find a transcript, write-up or similar of > Cal Henderson's keynote presentation at DjangoCon? Sounds like it was > interesting stuff. > > There is a youtube video here, but it's pretty long: > >

DjangoCon keynote transcript/summary

2008-09-16 Thread Delta20
Does anyone know where I can find a transcript, write-up or similar of Cal Henderson's keynote presentation at DjangoCon? Sounds like it was interesting stuff. There is a youtube video here, but it's pretty long: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Fr65PFqfk