Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Taylor
On 13/08/2012 02:19, deannel...@aol.com wrote: Paul, I've used oXygenXML before and if you can afford it, it will accelerate your content development. However, if you need a cheap (free) editor with OK XML support, use Eclipse which has XML support and a spell checker. I think youve missed

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread DaveP
On 08/13/2012 09:14 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: On 13/08/2012 02:19, deannel...@aol.com wrote: Paul, I've used oXygenXML before and if you can afford it, it will accelerate your content development. However, if you need a cheap (free) editor with OK XML support, use Eclipse which has XML support and

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Taylor
On 13/08/2012 09:49, DaveP wrote: On 08/13/2012 09:14 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: On 13/08/2012 02:19, deannel...@aol.com wrote: Paul, I've used oXygenXML before and if you can afford it, it will accelerate your content development. However, if you need a cheap (free) editor with OK XML support,

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Thomas Schraitle
Hi Paul, On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:05:41 +0100 Paul Taylor paul_t...@fastmail.fm wrote: In a previous project I used docbook 4 to create help text for an application which I then used it to generate html and Javahelp. The generation worked very well but I found it very difficult writing the

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Christian Roth
Besides the ones already mentioned: XMLMind: http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/ Haven't used it myself, though. -Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: docbook-apps-unsubscr...@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands,

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Gregory Papangeles
AFAIK, OpenOffice 3.3.0 can save your documents in docbook format. On 13 Αυγ 2012, at 1:05 , Paul Taylor paul_t...@fastmail.fm wrote: In a previous project I used docbook 4 to create help text for an application which I then used it to generate html and Javahelp. The generation worked very

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Heinz W. Pahlke
Am Mon, 13 Aug 2012, Gregory Papangeles schrieb AFAIK, OpenOffice 3.3.0 can save your documents in docbook format. But it is not valid :-(( Heinz -- Buchsatz für Autoren. Vom Manuskript zum Buch www.pahlke-online.de Bücher abseits des Mainstreams www.buchentdeckungen.de

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Taylor
On 13/08/2012 12:31, Heinz W. Pahlke wrote: Am Mon, 13 Aug 2012, Gregory Papangeles schrieb AFAIK, OpenOffice 3.3.0 can save your documents in docbook format. But it is not valid :-(( Heinz Just tried it, and its Docbook 4 rather than Docbook 5 :( But not sure its invalid. Paul

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread DeanNelson
You're correct Paul. However, even the WYSIWYG tools mentioned do not give you true WYSIWYGness like Word will give you. Its more of a rough approximation. It because of the nature of divorcing the content from the style (especially in the FO generation). But if rough approximation is

Re: [docbook-apps] Can docbook me used to create OSX Help books

2012-08-13 Thread David Cramer
On 08/12/2012 05:01 PM, Paul Taylor wrote: Can docbook me used to create OSX Help books ? Hi Paul, The DocBook xsls can create HTML out of the box. I haven't looked at OS X Help in years, but IIRC, it's just html with some metadata added to the head to cause the topic to appear in the right

Re: [docbook-apps] Can docbook me used to create OSX Help books

2012-08-13 Thread David Cramer
On 08/13/2012 11:13 AM, David Cramer wrote: On 08/12/2012 05:01 PM, Paul Taylor wrote: Alternatively, you could hire Bob or another consultant to prepare the customization layer for you. Should have included this link as well: http://wiki.docbook.org/DocBookConsultancy David

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Taylor
On 13/08/2012 14:17, deannel...@aol.com wrote: You're correct Paul. However, even the WYSIWYG tools mentioned do not give you true WYSIWYGness like Word will give you. Its more of a rough approximation. It because of the nature of divorcing the content from the style (especially in the FO

Re: [docbook-apps] Can docbook me used to create OSX Help books

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Taylor
On 13/08/2012 17:13, David Cramer wrote: On 08/12/2012 05:01 PM, Paul Taylor wrote: Can docbook me used to create OSX Help books ? Hi Paul, The DocBook xsls can create HTML out of the box. I haven't looked at OS X Help in years, but IIRC, it's just html with some metadata added to the head to

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread maxwell
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:21:55 +0100, Paul Taylor paul_t...@fastmail.fm wrote: Im giving Oxygen a go, found it a bit difficult to use at first but now getting the hang of it. One advantage is does seem to have is not only can you work with docbook xml its also setup to generate html/pdf

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Warren Young
On 8/12/2012 5:10 PM, Paul Taylor wrote: On 12/08/2012 23:41, Richard Hamilton wrote: There are a bunch of very good visual editors out there that will handle DocBook. The one I know best is Oxygen (http://www.oxygenxml.com/), which works very well with DocBook. Goodness, this product is

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
I have been using the free version of Serna. It is the only app which support XInclude AFAIK. I used then the docboox 4.x - docbook 5 converter since serna only support docbook 4.x http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/ HTH On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Paul Taylor

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Warren Young
On 8/12/2012 4:41 PM, Richard Hamilton wrote: There are a bunch of very good visual editors out there that will handle DocBook. The one I know best is Oxygen (http://www.oxygenxml.com/), which works very well with DocBook. The last time I tried opening one of my DocBook manuals with it

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Johan Persson
Kind of. If you like me use a master file with XInclude:s it takes a trick to get Oxygens to resolve all references and then it works really well. This trick has been available for quite some time/versions - but it is not obvious. You have to add all includes as files in the validation

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread David Cramer
On 08/13/2012 12:07 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: I have been using the free version of Serna. It is the only app which support XInclude AFAIK. I used then the docboox 4.x - docbook 5 converter since serna only support docbook 4.x http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/ There's a

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Jeff Chimene
On 8/12/12, Paul Taylor paul_t...@fastmail.fm wrote: In a previous project I used docbook 4 to create help text for an application which I then used it to generate html and Javahelp. The generation worked very well but I found it very difficult writing the help text embedded within the docbook

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Taylor
On 13/08/2012 18:04, Warren Young wrote: On 8/12/2012 5:10 PM, Paul Taylor wrote: On 12/08/2012 23:41, Richard Hamilton wrote: There are a bunch of very good visual editors out there that will handle DocBook. The one I know best is Oxygen (http://www.oxygenxml.com/), which works very well

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Ron Catterall
I don't understand this xinclude problem with oxygen. Oxygen has been handling my xincludes, and nested xincludes, seamlessly from versions around 7 or 8 at least. There was a base problem with the earlier versions (back to v.2 in my experience) - see this list about 5 or 6 years ago which

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread Jirka Kosek
On 13.8.2012 21:00, Jeff Chimene wrote: Not exactly the answer you're looking for, but to hijack the thead - have HTML 5 + CSS3 sufficiently advanced the art that WYSIWYGness can be achieved? Sure, for example http://xopus.com/ --

Re: [docbook-apps] WYSIWYG Editor for docbook

2012-08-13 Thread maxwell
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:05:29 +0200, Jirka Kosek ji...@kosek.cz wrote: On 13.8.2012 21:00, Jeff Chimene wrote: Not exactly the answer you're looking for, but to hijack the thead - have HTML 5 + CSS3 sufficiently advanced the art that WYSIWYGness can be achieved? Sure, for example