Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Ouch. I thought David would have been superb. I must have missed the posts where he was less than courteous and helpful bt such things happen. He seemed unwilling to go for a leadership position expressing reservations about it but i kinda pushed him into it and that all back-fired on me.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Review

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I am sure i have seen things like that in the mailing list. I might even have filed away the relevant emails but can't access my old emails for a few days. Regards from Tom :) From: Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com To: documentation@libreoffice.org

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) A leader leads. That is exactly the definition of leadership. Yet this email asks for a leader that wont control the group. Someone that does not control a group is NOT a leader, by definition. Single-leader structures are an anthema to an OpenSource project. We need a more

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Oops, i wrote an over-long email because i had not seen this one. Please ignore my long ramble! People do need to feel ownership over what they create so that they can take pride in it and in the over-all work of the whole project knowing they own a corner of it. This is where it is

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:10 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: A leader leads. That is exactly the definition of leadership. Yet this email asks for a leader that wont control the group. Someone that does not control a group is NOT a leader, by definition. I totally disagree. Leaders can

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 09:55 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Many co-operative groups run extremely well without a specific leader, running by committee/council or by whoever happens to be most active in a particular sub-group at that particular time (like a relay race). We seem to be happily

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 10:18 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Oops, i wrote an over-long email because i had not seen this one. Please ignore my long ramble! Too late, I already responded. ;-) People do need to feel ownership over what they create so that they can take pride in it and in the

[libreoffice-documentation] User guide team leadership

2011-04-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
And another thing... If anyone think I'm lusting after a leadership role, let me assure you I'm not. I'm willing to serve, but I can occupy myself quite nicely in other ways, either within or outside of the project. At my age I'm definitely in the Is it FUN? category Rogerio mentioned. Obviously I

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] User guide team leadership

2011-04-27 Thread David Nelson
Hi Jean, :-) On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 18:02, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: And another thing... If anyone think I'm lusting after a leadership role, let me assure you I'm not. I'm willing to serve, but I can occupy myself quite nicely in other ways, either within or outside of

[libreoffice-documentation] Announcement

2011-04-27 Thread Hal Parker
I guess it's now time for me to announce that I am Jean Weber's clone, created to allow Jean to work at LibreOffice without incurring the charge of conflict of interest from the Oracle folks (in particular) at OpenOffice.org. Now that Oracle is abandoning OOo, and I've pretty much done what I

[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide chapters all on Alfresco now

2011-04-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
I've just finished uploading the rest of the Impress Guide chapters to the For rebranding space for that book on Alfresco. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive:

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Support != leadership I guess that guidance could be part of a leaders role but would be better given by the group, particularly given by people that are currently active at that moment.  It is the person that has just completed a document and just needs someone to proof-read it quickly 

words Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Leader?

2011-04-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think we might be all using different words in the same way or the same words in different ways.  I have been away on a boat for a few days and obviously need to catch-up on my emails.  This whole issue about hierarchy and leadership is one that keeps cropping up and confusing people

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Announcement

2011-04-27 Thread Jeremy Cartwright
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:25:55 +0800 Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote: I guess it's now time for me to announce that I am Jean Weber's clone, created to allow Jean to work at LibreOffice without incurring the charge of conflict of interest from the Oracle folks (in particular) at

[libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual

2011-04-27 Thread planas
Hi, I am planning to put together a Base manual, starting next. OO does not have a current manual that I could find. I will base the manual on OO information I can find and any other information I can find. I will post a draft outline next week for comments on Alfresco. Regards -- Jay Lozier

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual

2011-04-27 Thread Jean Weber
On Thursday, April 28, 2011, planas jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: I am planning to put together a Base manual, starting next. That's excellent news! OO does not have a current manual that I could find. I will base the manual on OO information I can find and any other information I can find.

[libreoffice-documentation] Announcement

2011-04-27 Thread Jean Weber
On Thursday, April 28, 2011, Jeremy Cartwright vardomes...@gmail.com wrote: I knew it. You slipped a week or so ago and signed an email from Hal --Jean. I was wondering if anyone had noticed! Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines +

[libreoffice-documentation] Alfresco: server restart

2011-04-27 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I'm about to restart the server. I'll post back when it's up again (around 30 mins). David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive:

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Alfresco: server restart

2011-04-27 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) Alfresco is up again. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping David N: Alfresco timeouts

2011-04-27 Thread David Nelson
Hi Hal... um... Jean, :-) On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 13:36, Hal Parker halparke...@gmail.com wrote: Alfresco is timing out too quickly. You had fixed it to have a longer period before timeout, but it reverted when the site was rebuilt. Can the timeout be made a useful length, at least 10 hours,

[libreoffice-documentation] Documentation team wiki reorganization

2011-04-27 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I'm having a look at our wiki pages to update and reorganize them better. There are some orphaned pages, plus Hal mentioned recovering the contents of the Development page originally worked on by Ron (deleted during the last major wiki update). Normally, I should put some detailed

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual

2011-04-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:53 -0400, planas wrote: Jean On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 05:52 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: On Thursday, April 28, 2011, planas jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: I am planning to put together a Base manual, starting next. That's excellent news! OO does not have a

[libreoffice-documentation] Unified LibreOffice documentation version reference system for English documentation

2011-04-27 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) We recently talked about a documentation version reference system that would mean we don't have to encode version information within the file names of documents. I've started a page on the subject at [1]. I'll post back with some of the suggestions and comments made in the past. I just

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual

2011-04-27 Thread planas
Jean On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 13:14 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:53 -0400, planas wrote: Jean On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 05:52 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: On Thursday, April 28, 2011, planas jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: I am planning to put together a Base