Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-16 Thread KSB
On 2020.07.16. 5:16, Mark Constable wrote: On 16/7/20 5:54 am, Benny Pedersen wrote: FWIW I meant if the client is Windows7/old-Outlook then changing either 993/SSL or 143/STARTTLS to 143/NONE could help pick up the mail. windows 7 just need tls 1.0, why its need to disabled all, is as well

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-15 Thread Emmanuel Dreyfus
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:16:19PM +1000, Mark Constable wrote: > Would anyone with Windows7 clients be able to provide me with the > EXACT set of ssl_* settings that should work with W7 please? Also consider improving Windows 7 TLS usage:

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-15 Thread Mark Constable
On 16/7/20 5:54 am, Benny Pedersen wrote: FWIW I meant if the client is Windows7/old-Outlook then changing either 993/SSL or 143/STARTTLS to 143/NONE could help pick up the mail. windows 7 just need tls 1.0, why its need to disabled all, is as well beyong me, do not disable tls 1.0 in dovecot

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
Tanstaafl skrev den 2020-07-15 21:28: On Tue Jul 07 2020 02:07:08 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Mark Constable wrote: FWIW I meant if the client is Windows7/old-Outlook then changing either 993/SSL or 143/STARTTLS to 143/NONE could help pick up the mail. We had to do this for a 100 or so

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On Tue Jul 07 2020 02:07:08 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Mark Constable wrote: > FWIW I meant if the client is Windows7/old-Outlook then changing either > 993/SSL or 143/STARTTLS to 143/NONE could help pick up the mail. We had > to do this for a 100 or so clients a few months ago after

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird (re disabling SSL)

2020-07-08 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 12:05:55PM +1000, Mark Constable wrote: > I spent a week trying every cypher combination I could find via Google > for Dovecot but with the phone going off the hook from complaints by > customers not being able to pick up their mail. We had to respond with > some solution

SV: Outlook vs Thunderbird (re disabling SSL)

2020-07-07 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
>>Actually, there is a regedit "trick" for Win7 but that is beyond the ability >>of our customers to apply, and that doesn't help the older Apple device users. You could build a .reg file with the trick inside, and then distribute it to your users. However it wont solve the Apple problem.

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird (re disabling SSL)

2020-07-07 Thread Mark Constable
On 8/7/20 2:04 am, Alexander Dalloz wrote: FWIW I meant if the client is Windows7/old-Outlook then changing either 993/SSL or 143/STARTTLS to 143/NONE could help pick up the mail. We had to do this for a 100 or so clients a few months ago after upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04. Curious, what's the

Re: SV: SV: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 07:00:23PM +0200, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: > Sorry about that, its just outlook that does that by default. Consider migrating to a MUA that, unlike Outlook, understands mailing lists. For example, Mutt (which definitely sucks less than Outlook):

Re: SV: SV: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread KSB
On 2020.07.07. 20:00, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: I don't know what you mean with "top posting"? It means, your answer is above text you are replying to. -- KSB

SV: SV: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
a come out of the pipe. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org För Alexander Dalloz Skickat: den 7 juli 2020 18:30 Till: dovecot@dovecot.org Ämne: Re: SV: Outlook vs Thunderbird Am 07.07.2020 um 18:11 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen: > Plaintext access is no problem if t

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread @lbutlr
On 07 Jul 2020, at 10:11, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: > If the IMAP server cannot be accessed from the outside, and the traffic don't > travel over wifi or public networks, no danger. No, not no danger, but certainly less danger. The most obvious dangers even in a closed environment is if someone

Re: SV: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 07.07.2020 um 18:11 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen: Plaintext access is no problem if the connection is secured via other means - for example internal network or VPN. If the IMAP server cannot be accessed from the outside, and the traffic don't travel over wifi or public networks, no danger.

SV: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
...@dovecot.org För Alexander Dalloz Skickat: den 7 juli 2020 18:05 Till: dovecot@dovecot.org Ämne: Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird Am 07.07.2020 um 08:07 schrieb Mark Constable: > > FWIW I meant if the client is Windows7/old-Outlook then changing > either 993/SSL or 143/STARTTLS to 143/N

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 07.07.2020 um 08:07 schrieb Mark Constable: FWIW I meant if the client is Windows7/old-Outlook then changing either 993/SSL or 143/STARTTLS to 143/NONE could help pick up the mail. We had to do this for a 100 or so clients a few months ago after upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04. Curious, what's

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 23:49:08 -0600, @lbutlr stated: >On 06 Jul 2020, at 15:48, The Doctor wrote: >> Got a client that usually uses Outlook I think 2010. This person >> tends to move their e-mails to certain folers. On Thunderbird, the >> move shows. Not on Outlook. >> >> Any explanation? >

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread The Doctor
On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 01:45:06AM +0300, Sami Ketola wrote: > > > > On 7. Jul 2020, at 0.48, The Doctor wrote: > > > > Got a client that usually uses Outlook I think 2010. This person tends to > > move > > their e-mails to certain folers. On Thunderbird, the move shows. > > Not on

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-07 Thread Mark Constable
On 7/7/20 3:50 pm, @lbutlr wrote: you could try disabling SSL/STARTTLS on port 143. What? I’ve never seen SSL/StARTTLS on port 143,a dn I doubt that would work? I thought you had a problem picking up IMAP mail. I see now you mean you move messages within Thunderbird and the Outlook 2010 app

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 06 Jul 2020, at 20:30, Mark Constable wrote: > you could try disabling SSL/STARTTLS on port 143. What? I’ve never seen SSL/StARTTLS on port 143,a dn I doubt that would work? -- Rumour is information distilled so finely that it can filter through anything. It does not need doors and windows

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-06 Thread @lbutlr
On 06 Jul 2020, at 15:48, The Doctor wrote: > Got a client that usually uses Outlook I think 2010. This person tends to > move > their e-mails to certain folers. On Thunderbird, the move shows. > Not on Outlook. > > Any explanation? Since the move works fine in Thunderbrd (and I assume

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-06 Thread Mark Constable
On 7/7/20 12:16 pm, The Doctor wrote: Got a client that usually uses Outlook I think 2010. This person tends to move their e-mails to certain folers. On Thunderbird, the move shows. Not on Outlook. Any explanation? Using IMAp, most folders should sync client and server. Just wondering if an

Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-06 Thread The Doctor
Got a client that usually uses Outlook I think 2010. This person tends to move their e-mails to certain folers. On Thunderbird, the move shows. Not on Outlook. Any explanation? -- Member - Liberal International This is doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@@nl2k.ab.ca Yahweh, Queen & country!Never

Re: Outlook vs Thunderbird

2020-07-06 Thread Sami Ketola
> On 7. Jul 2020, at 0.48, The Doctor wrote: > > Got a client that usually uses Outlook I think 2010. This person tends to > move > their e-mails to certain folers. On Thunderbird, the move shows. > Not on Outlook. > > Any explanation? Really sorry but I do not understand this