Re: [Dovecot] Server Time 45min ahead

2012-01-12 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 07:47 -0500, Harlan Stenn wrote: then as late as possible in the startup sequence, run: - ntp-wait -v -s 1 ; start dovecot and postfix (and database servers) I'll +1 that advice, I introduced ntp-wait sometime ago when dovecot kept bitching, not a single glitch

Re: [Dovecot] Performance of Maildir vs sdbox/mdbox

2012-01-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 02:13 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: There are several huge Dovecot+NFS setups. They use director. It works well enough (and with the recent fixes, I'd hope perfectly). Not to mention other huge NFS setups that don't use director, and also have no problems.

[Dovecot] sysconfdir depreacted

2012-03-21 Thread Noel Butler
The purpose of any build scripts --sysconfdir is to tell the configuration to build in a path for its binaries configuration file(s). Dovecot 2.1.3, seems to insist that that directory is now /etc/dovecot/ ignoring --sysconfdir=/etc as in 1.2.x and previous majors before that, is this a bug? if

Re: [Dovecot] sysconfdir depreacted

2012-03-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 15:46 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 21.3.2012, at 15.26, Noel Butler wrote: The purpose of any build scripts --sysconfdir is to tell the configuration to build in a path for its binaries configuration file(s). Dovecot 2.1.3, seems to insist that that directory

Re: [Dovecot] sysconfdir depreacted

2012-03-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 07:28 +0100, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote: :2012-03-22T11:55:Noel Butler: perhaps it should be renamed then, given it violates the known normal for SYSCONF dir, you've just created another form of --datadir Not really. The way I see it works as expected

Re: [Dovecot] sysconfdir depreacted

2012-03-23 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-03-23 at 12:53 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 23.3.2012, at 12.44, Heiko Schlichting wrote: Timo wrote: So the only way I can think of how to change this is to add another option to optionally remove the dovecot/ suffix from the directory, but is this really worth the

Re: [Dovecot] sysconfdir depreacted

2012-03-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 03:50 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 24.3.2012, at 3.19, Noel Butler wrote: Yes, I was also thinking about that, but it's about removing the dovecot/ suffix from other directories as well. That might be something worth doing (--without-package-suffix or something

Re: [Dovecot] sysconfdir depreacted

2012-03-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 03:50 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 24.3.2012, at 3.19, Noel Butler wrote: Yes, I was also thinking about that, but it's about removing the dovecot/ suffix from other directories as well. That might be something worth doing (--without-package-suffix or something

Re: [Dovecot] 487 imap-login processes - is this ok

2012-04-17 Thread Noel Butler
Older versions of dovecot (all of v1) can under some circumstances screwup and leave hung login processes, this more often than not occurs if you have network issues, requiring a restart of dovecot to clear them. Timo has apparently, IIRC, worked around this for v2.x and it should not happen. On

Re: [Dovecot] BEWARE: This list is being harvested for leads

2012-05-17 Thread Noel Butler
It wasn't sent to the list, it was direct, therefore it IS spam On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 16:24 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: well, but what is exactly your problem with people offering professional support for dovecot which is ON-TOPIC if this are not 20 mails each day? signature.asc

Re: [Dovecot] BEWARE: This list is being harvested for leads

2012-05-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 11:42 -0400, Bill Cole wrote: On 17 May 2012, at 10:56, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2012-05-17 10:20 AM, dovecot-20120...@billmail.scconsult.com wrote: On 17 May 2012, at 9:46, Charles Marcus wrote: Tim is working closely with Timo, and I'm sure got Timo's permission

Re: [Dovecot] BEWARE: you might be supporting the lists owner!!

2012-05-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 20:32 -0700, Linda Walsh wrote: Jeff Kletsky wrote: Even with good intent the message in question is clearly in violation of CAN-SPAM and Cal. Bus. Prof. Code Sec. 17529, of which the sender was informed of when my server was accessed. --- And you have proof

Re: [Dovecot] BEWARE: you might be supporting the lists owner!!

2012-05-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 11:35 +0700, Tamsy wrote: All that noise because of one mail offering some paid support is so one mail multiplies by all the miscreants in the world adds up to a bucket load of crap unnecessary! Actually, it has merits, because it is spam, had it gone to users@ or

Re: [Dovecot] BEWARE: you might be supporting the lists owner!!

2012-05-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 06:48 -0400, Jerry wrote: basically a non-event. It must have been a really slow news day. non-event? You wouldnt be saying that if certain other operators with their products did that. I've seen you bitch and whinge about far far far less over the years Jerry.

Re: [Dovecot] BEWARE: you might be supporting the lists owner!!

2012-05-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 09:43 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: Almost every commercial product I know off does send unsolicited email. Indeed, its why DNSBL's were developed There's a delete or report spam button/shortcut key for that. If it helps some other users, and more importantly the dovecot

Re: [Dovecot] BEWARE: you might be supporting the lists owner!!

2012-05-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2012-05-19 at 08:25 -0400, Jerry wrote: Hell I bitch about a lot of things; however, that does not change the facts of the case. Only a subset of this list received the message in question - Likely to see how many people bitched before the rest - and I was not one of them.

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-07 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 11:23 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Fine. i understand that. What i am suggesting is not making large LUNs. you get the best performance with directly attaching disks to your machine. That's simply not true. 99% of block latency is rotational. iSCSI It's not about

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Noel Butler
Seem some people have never heard of keep it simple, stupidor less is more ... sounds like a few people here are falsely propping up their worth to their employers, making unnecessary BS to justify their own existence. My experience of over 20 years of this industry easily shows that

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 12:10 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: what you do not understand is that a proper SAN is NOT an complex setup, it is in many cases a simpler one because you have TWO controllers, disks with DUAL channel and a proper RAID level in ONE device to built all this redundancy at

Re: [Dovecot] bcypt availability

2012-07-16 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2012-07-15 at 11:32 -0700, Robin wrote: Indeed. What I have seen is a create deal of variation in the configuration (/etc/login.defs or your distro's equivalent) in terms of making use of such things. I don't see any added value to bcrypt over iterated SHA-512, really, and

Re: [Dovecot] what best for anti-spam filter?

2012-07-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 11:12 +0200, Warren Baker wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Morten Stevens mstev...@imt-systems.com wrote: No, greylisting is really a bad solution. It is not RFC compliant and delays the mail traffic. Since when? RFC5321 was updated to handle delays and then

Re: [Dovecot] what best for anti-spam filter?

2012-07-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 14:06 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote: You must not accept mail you are unwilling or unable to deliver - ever! That insisted behaviour was changed four years ago, read up on RFC 5321 IIRC signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Dovecot] what best for anti-spam filter?

2012-07-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 07:22 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 7/24/2012 7:13 AM, Morten Stevens wrote: Jul 24 12:27:32 mx1 sendmail[31933]: q6OARUOM031928: to=dovecot@dovecot.org, delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=152317, relay=dovecot.org. [193.210.130.67], dsn=2.0.0,

Re: [Dovecot] what best for anti-spam filter?

2012-07-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 15:31 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote: 24.07.2012 14:30, Noel Butler: On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 14:06 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote: You must not accept mail you are unwilling or unable to deliver - ever! That insisted behaviour was changed four years ago

Re: [Dovecot] what best for anti-spam filter?

2012-07-24 Thread Noel Butler
and like all the other constant off-topic crud here, you are free to filter it out if you don't wish to see it. On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 15:46 +0200, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: People, this is a mailing list dedicated to Dovecot and the protocols POP, IMAP and MANAGESIEVE with the one or

Re: [Dovecot] what best for anti-spam filter?

2012-07-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 10:16 -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: Try this: http://www.junkemailfilter.com/spam/ It's also a good idea to place a disclaimer when advertising _your_ products and services on someone else's list On 7/23/2012 8:58 PM, fy wrote: what anti-spam for you used ?

Re: [Dovecot] mysql auth failover failing

2012-07-25 Thread Noel Butler
As per this discussion almost a year ago, was there any attempt to introduce failover mode planned Timo? On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 13:26 -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote: Perhaps it could be an option, either load balancing between all available servers, or only using later listed servers when the

Re: [Dovecot] mysql auth failover failing

2012-07-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2012-07-28 at 19:53 +0300, Timo Sirainen wrote: It's in my TODO, but I don't know when I'll get around to implementing it. So many things to do right now.. Thanks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Dovecot] Error: User doesn't have home dir set, disabling duplicate database

2012-09-16 Thread Noel Butler
thats a rather intelligent response now, isnt it troll. On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 13:21 +0200, Pascal Volk wrote: On 09/16/2012 12:48 PM Carsten Laun-De Lellis wrote: Hi all I receive the following error in my mail.log. Does anybody know how to configure dovecot to get rid of this ?

Re: [Dovecot] Error: User doesn't have home dir set, disabling duplicate database

2012-09-16 Thread Noel Butler
Hi, On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 12:48 +0200, Carsten Laun-De Lellis wrote: Hi all I receive the following error in my mail.log. Dont use ldap, but, you should supply the output of dovecot -n it might help those familiar with ldap setups assist you Does anybody know how to

Re: [Dovecot] 76Gb to 146Gb

2012-09-25 Thread Noel Butler
Spyros, Sounds like you have bigger problems, as you appear to have no disaster recovery processes, since your using a standalone server, as recommended to you earlier by Robert, rsync is your friend, and not just now, but daily :) setup a rolling 7 day rsync archive (sata disks are big, cheap

Re: [Dovecot] POLL: v2.2 to allow one mail over quota?

2012-10-29 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 22:39 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: So what do you think about v2.2 allowing delivery of one last mail even if it brings the user over quota? +1 only if configurable, and with an additional configurable quota percentage value option for those that do enable the

Re: [Dovecot] FYI: News about Mark Crispin

2012-11-19 Thread Noel Butler
That's so sad, Marks a nice guy, and too fricken young for this to happen On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 02:55 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org Date: 20. marraskuuta 2012 2.44.51 UTC+2.00 To: im...@ietf.org, imap...@ietf.org,

Re: [Dovecot] SSL certificates

2012-11-23 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 19:49 -0700, The Doctor wrote: Who is the best CA Certificate provider for Dovecot? Anyone but verisign, dont get me started on them :) Now that Thawte are no longer owned by those criminals, I highly recommend them for certs for web sites. But if its just for

Re: [Dovecot] v2.1.11 soon

2012-11-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 10:53 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: Just to let you know: I'm planning on releasing v2.1.11 today/tomorrow. If you wish to get something fixed for it, ask quickly. :) hah, but u won t do it... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Dovecot] mail to admin when quota exceeded

2011-01-11 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 01:06 +0200, Karolis Žvaigždinas wrote: We're using Dovecot v1.2.15 LDA/IMAP/POP3+MySQL with quota plugin, quota_rule per-user size, quota_exceed_message and quota_warning on storage=90%%.with script. Everything is working as expected. But I've been asked to

Re: [Dovecot] mail to admin when quota exceeded

2011-01-11 Thread Noel Butler
Replying to myself is bad I know but its holiday time :) at least for a few more days... On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 09:32 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: That said, if you use dovecot 2.0.x's LDA, you *can* do this now, and the wiki IIRC, does tell you how - we still use 1.2.x so I don't have

Re: [Dovecot] SSD drives are really fast running Dovecot

2011-01-14 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 17:29 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: slow drives. The reason is that few if any organizations actually need 28TB (14 2TB Cavier Green drives--popular with idiots today) of mail storage in a single mail store. That's 50 years worth of mail storage for a 50,000 employee

Re: [Dovecot] SSD drives are really fast running Dovecot

2011-01-14 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:09 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Brad Davidson put forth on 1/14/2011 6:25 PM: We just bought 252TB of raw disk for about 5k users. Given, this is going in to Exchange on Netapp with multi-site database replication, so this cooks down to about 53TB of usable space

Re: [Dovecot] SSD drives are really fast running Dovecot

2011-01-15 Thread Noel Butler
LOL this is just s funny., watching the no no no im right you're wrong, give up stanley, those on many lists are aware of your trolling, nobody cares about your lil SOHO world, this list contains many different sized orgs, and like someone else mentione,d the 4K email size is SO 1994, but,

Re: [Dovecot] SSD drives are really fast running Dovecot

2011-01-16 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 20:33 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Cor Bosman put forth on 1/16/2011 5:34 PM: Btw, our average mailsize last we checked was 30KB. Thats a pretty good average as we're an ISP with a very wide user base. I think 4KB average is not a normal mail load. As another OP

Re: [Dovecot] [Dovecot-news] v2.0.13 released

2011-05-12 Thread Noel Butler
rsync not active? or now protected to mirrors? On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 18:52 +0300, Timo Sirainen wrote: http://dovecot.org/releases/2.0/dovecot-2.0.13.tar.gz http://dovecot.org/releases/2.0/dovecot-2.0.13.tar.gz.sig I've almost managed to read my email backlog, but there are still some

Re: [Dovecot] [Dovecot-news] v2.0.13 released

2011-05-13 Thread Noel Butler
On 13.5.2011, at 2.39, Noel Butler wrote: rsync not active? or now protected to mirrors? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot security with IPv6

2011-06-23 Thread Noel Butler
That clown is a tad over paranoid... The only real issue with devices using ipv6 is that most people become relaxed with security, preferring with ipv4 to do it all on the NAT box, with ipv6 there is no NAT, so if you have 5 machines, you need to configure full security on all. If you're an

Re: [Dovecot] Virtual Servers

2011-06-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 11:40 -0700, Daniel L. Miller wrote: Maybe a little off-topic - but I hope not too much. Looking for some insight on setting up Dovecot under a virtual server. In particular, I use VirtualBox - and at the moment, Ubuntu Linux. I hope this is a lightly used server

Re: [Dovecot] Virtual Servers

2011-06-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 02:21 +0100, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: I hope this is a lightly used server and does not do any real level of mail traffic else you'll soon regret running in any VM :) Don't mean to start a flame war, but your statement above is just simply inaccurate. The main

Re: [Dovecot] Virtual Servers

2011-06-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 02:54 +0100, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: I should also mention that I'm refering to VMs using direct block storage such as LVM, not VMs running off image files. Running anything off an image file is indeed going to slow your system down compared to a physical server.

Re: [Dovecot] Virtual Servers

2011-06-28 Thread Noel Butler
I think we all know who the troll is here On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 07:14 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-06-27 9:06 PM, Noel Butler wrote: On 2011-06-27 9:21 PM, Jonathan Tripathy wrote: I hope this is a lightly used server and does not do any real level of mail traffic else you'll soon

Re: [Dovecot] NFS mail storage

2011-06-29 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:40 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Since maildir is IOPS heavy and NFS/GFS/OCFS don't seem to like high IOPS workloads that make heavy use of locking, mbox becomes very attractive due to it's very low IOPS demands. If you can live with the folder tree limitations of

Re: [Dovecot] POP3 vs. IMAP Load/Memory usage in Dovecot 1.0.15

2011-07-15 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 00:40 +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: On 11-07-11 5:03 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On Linux, load average strictly shows total system CPU usage in intervals, nothing else. That would be FreeBSD, AFAIK. On linux, I/O does add to the load You're right Miquel,

Re: [Dovecot] My status

2011-07-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 16:12 +0100, Spyros Tsiolis wrote: 30 Degrees Centigrade whilst 22 outside? Where the heck are you living ? Indeed, at 22c I'm still wearing a jumper :) ... 30c is just right. attachment: face-smile.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [Dovecot] sieve on debian squeeze

2011-07-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 16:55 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 7/28/2011 2:51 AM, Andrea Ganduglia wrote: Now the problem concerns outgoing messages. If I try to send e-mail through out command mail (local user) or through out authentication provided by a virtual user I get a bounce error

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot Backup

2011-07-31 Thread Noel Butler
On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 14:02 +0200, spamv...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi.. are there any proofen Methods to backup all mail ? shutting down dovecot and tar the hole dir? using rsnapshot? any hints / thoughts im running dovecot2 on freebsd I assume it's only a single stand alone

Re: [Dovecot] list archive

2011-08-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 17:12 -0400, Postmaster wrote: I'm not able to access the mailing list archives following the instructions here... http://www.dovecot.org/mailinglists.html using either IMAP or by downloading the mbox file. replace www.dovecot.org with dovecot.org the mirror

Re: [Dovecot] May Dovecot help in users education

2011-08-17 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 16:05 +0200, Laurent CARON wrote: On 17/08/2011 16:00, Alexandre Chapellon wrote: Is there any way to achieve this with dovecot? Does anybody have another idea smoothly force used to switch to TLS? Hi, Maybe by sending them an email with a deadline for the end of

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.2.16 and Thunderbird 5 - pop3 mails not getting deleted

2011-08-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 09:10 +0300, Kostas Zorbadelos wrote: On 08/06/2011 01:32 AM, Ian Evans wrote: I run a Dovecot 1.2.16 pop3 server and have just started using the Thunderbird 5 email client. Thunderbird is set to leave the messages on the server unless they are over 91 days old.

Re: [Dovecot] mysql auth failover failing

2011-09-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 19:33 -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote: default_pass_scheme = PLAIN Uhg i'll pretend I didnt see that :) According to the sample SQL configuration file HA / round-robin load-balancing is supported by giving multiple host settings, like: host=sql1.host.org

Re: [Dovecot] mysql auth failover failing

2011-09-10 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 20:16 -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 08:02:57PM -0700, Noel Butler wrote: suggest, having just one master server, after all, dovecot and postfix just need to read, not alter/update/insert etc. True; but the pieces that are altering/updating

Re: [Dovecot] Temporary Failure that's Permanent!

2011-10-25 Thread Noel Butler
Hi, I've been away for a while, and the previous threads I stopped reading because it makes reading War and Peace look more enticing. Have you run in debug mode? On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 11:33 -0700, Jack Fredrikson wrote: Hi; I continue to be plagued with this error: Oct 25 10:49:18

Re: [Dovecot] Temporary Failure that's Permanent!

2011-10-26 Thread Noel Butler
*sigh* As usual Stanley, you do not contribute anything constructive, only trollish jibberish Charles' advice however would be my next step, but at this point I think it's a bit drastic. On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 02:33 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/25/2011 2:34 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:

Re: [Dovecot] Temporary Failure that's Permanent!

2011-10-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 11:33 -0700, Jack Fredrikson wrote: mailbox_command = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/deliver -f $SENDER -a $RECIPIENT get rid of this ^ in postifx main.cf dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=dovecot

Re: [Dovecot] v2.1.rc1 released

2011-11-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 21:35 +0100, Miguel Tormo wrote: El Jueves, 24 de Noviembre de 2011 20:25:47 Timo Sirainen escribió: I'm not sure if changing /etc/security/limits.conf helps. It's probably only used by PAM when user logs in, so if Dovecot is started in system bootup it's unlikely to

Re: [Dovecot] Seen flag getting lost

2011-11-25 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 13:49 +0100, Edgar Fuß wrote: Then the 'S' flag is added to the current Maildir filename without losing any other changes. And this is supposed to work even over NFS? Great. Absolutely, always has worked over NFS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [Dovecot] crashes on 2.0.16

2011-12-18 Thread Noel Butler
Have you tried using a modern kernel? that one is about 2 years old. On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 00:32 +0100, Cor Bosman wrote: Hey all, I upgraded some servers today from Debian Lenny to Debian Squeeze, and after the upgrade I started getting dovecot crashes. I was on 2.0.13 but got these

Re: [Dovecot] crashes on 2.0.16

2011-12-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 02:32 +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 00:32 +0100, Cor Bosman wrote: # 2.0.16: /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf # OS: Linux 2.6.32.36-xsserver x86_64 Debian 6.0.3 Have you tried using a modern kernel

[Dovecot] OT Re: crashes on 2.0.16

2011-12-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 00:49 +0100, Christopher Stolzenberg wrote: 2011/12/22 Jim Knuth j...@jkart.de: am 22.12.11 00:15 schrieb Christopher Stolzenberg xchris...@googlemail.com: Indeed; very many of us use Debian stable. Which kernel did you install that is 2.0.16-friendly, and

Re: [Dovecot] OT Re: crashes on 2.0.16

2011-12-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 23:18 -0500, Simon Brereton wrote: I'm with Jim. Debian has served me well for years. This is just distro-bias. Sure, you need modicum more sense and hands on experience, distro holy ways will outlast the real world holy wars, we each have a distro we all stand by,

Re: [Dovecot] crashes on 2.0.16

2011-12-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 08:08 +0100, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 22.12.2011 00:49, schrieb Christopher Stolzenberg: 2011/12/22 Jim Knuth j...@jkart.de: am 22.12.11 00:15 schrieb Christopher Stolzenberg xchris...@googlemail.com: Indeed; very many of us use Debian stable. Which kernel

Re: [Dovecot] crashes on 2.0.16

2011-12-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 08:42 +0100, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 22.12.2011 08:27, schrieb Noel Butler: On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 08:08 +0100, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 22.12.2011 00:49, schrieb Christopher Stolzenberg: 2011/12/22 Jim Knuth j...@jkart.de: am 22.12.11 00:15 schrieb

Re: [Dovecot] crashes on 2.0.16

2011-12-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 09:22 +0100, Cor Bosman wrote: This also is not the kernel list, since updating to a kernel released in the 21st century Cor's issue has gone away, so this thread is now rather entirely pointless on the Dovecot list. So I'll my participation in Actually, it hasn't.

Re: [Dovecot] OT Re: crashes on 2.0.16

2011-12-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 06:31 -0500, Jerry wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 06:13:36 -0500 Charles Marcus articulated: On 2011-12-21 11:18 PM, Simon Brereton simon.brere...@buongiorno.com wrote: It would be interesting to chart the number of threads caused by each distro. I don't know who

Re: [Dovecot] OS/Distro wars

2011-12-22 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 14:11 +, Alan Brown wrote: DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS another goose who think he's god... if you dont like a thread, dont read it, especially since its been marked as OT for past 10 or posts, ya moron. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [Dovecot] Storing passwords encrypted... bcrypt?

2012-01-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 20:58 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: To prevent rainbow table attacks, salt your passwords. You can make them a little bit more difficult in plenty of ways, but salt is the /solution/. Agreed... We use Crypt::PasswdMD5 - unix_md5_crypt() for all general password

Re: [Dovecot] Storing passwords encrypted... bcrypt?

2012-01-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 21:06 -0500, Patrick Domack wrote: Quoting Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net: On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 20:58 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: To prevent rainbow table attacks, salt your passwords. You can make them a little bit more difficult in plenty of ways

Re: [Dovecot] Storing passwords encrypted... bcrypt?

2012-01-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 03:26 +0100, Pascal Volk wrote: On 01/05/2012 02:59 AM Noel Butler wrote: We use Crypt::PasswdMD5 - unix_md5_crypt() for all general password storage including mail/ftp etc, except for web, where we need to use apache_md5_crypt(). Huh, why do you need to store

Re: [Dovecot] Storing passwords encrypted... bcrypt?

2012-01-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 04:05 +0100, Pascal Volk wrote: On 01/05/2012 03:36 AM Noel Butler wrote: Because with multiple servers, we store them all in (replicated) mysql :) (the same with postfix/dovecot). and as I'm sure you are aware, Apache does not understand standard crypted MD5

Re: [Dovecot] Storing passwords encrypted... bcrypt?

2012-01-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 22:16 -0500, David Ford wrote: with multiple servers, we use pam nss, with a replicated ldap backed. public accessible mode :P oh dont start me on that, but luckily I'm not subjected to its dangers...and telling Pascal bout Bourbon made me realise its time to head

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-20 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 08:54 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: I guess you've been bitten by a proper database solution given your apprehension for using one. It's called experience. I could explain many cases where SQL is overkill and overhead. But I don't do mail

[Dovecot] OT Re: dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-21 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 09:04 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: The reason we moved from qmail/vpopmail CDB to qmail/vpopmail/mysql was for a MASSIVE IMPROVEMENT in performance, then added dovecot in for even more performance improvements, I too was hesitant, but a large university having

Re: [Dovecot] with dovecot deliver amavisd not work

2010-05-26 Thread Noel Butler
HUH? This has nothing to do with dovecot, dovecot gets the message once postfix is done with it. if its not working, ask on postfix list. On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 18:51 +0200, fakessh wrote: hello all reader hello list hello dovecot network since I've installed dovecot deliver. e-mails no

Re: [Dovecot] auth socket goes away on reload

2010-06-03 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:48 -0700, David Jonas wrote: Is there an obvious way around this? I know I could somehow merge the changes into the running sqlite db but that undermines the simplicity of the design I have. Maybe a patch to reopen the db if it's replaced? Or perhaps I should

[Dovecot] [OT] Re: Evolution and Thunderbird do different things?

2010-06-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 16:10 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-06-09 2:02 PM, Tom Hendrikx wrote: Recalling now, I think this issue triggered me to ditch Evolution after 2 days of testing some years ago, and into using the same client everywhere. But YMMV... Everything I've read says

Re: [Dovecot] failed to store into mailbox 'INBOX': Not enough disk space. with large mail

2010-06-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 21:48 +0200, Johannes Dröge wrote: Hello, I am having this error message on some rare emails with more than 6 mb or so. Neither the dovecot server nor the filesystem where the maildir resides have any quota or are full at the time of delivering. The mails goes

Re: [Dovecot] failed to store into mailbox 'INBOX': Not enough disk space. with large mail

2010-06-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 08:28 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 21:48 +0200, Johannes Dröge wrote: Hello, I am having this error message on some rare emails with more than 6 mb or so. Neither the dovecot server nor the filesystem where the maildir resides have any

Re: [Dovecot] failed to store into mailbox 'INBOX': Not enough disk space. with large mail

2010-06-11 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 09:17 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: They're actually pretty reliable... but for me its more the privacy (or lack thereof) issue that keeps me from using them more... eh? you have far more risk of privacy invasion from google (by their own admission so they know how

[Dovecot] OT Re: Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Noel Butler
caution OS war related statements within :) On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 07:29 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: We are not in disagreement, we just apparently do things differently. I prefer the 'rolling release' type of system that always has *everything* reasonably up to date, and gentoo gives me

Re: [Dovecot] OT Re: Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-16 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 21:49 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: dovecot in mainstream, but hey, he still prefers sendmail over postfix, which is fine for system only users, but most of us do a lot more, and Claus has told me directly they will never support MySQL so we removed Just want to clarify

[Dovecot] OT Re: Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-17 Thread Noel Butler
re-sent , this never made it to the list, my anti spam system ate it :) On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 07:07 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: That's an interesting position/observation given that RHEL, SLES, and CentOS (RHEL derivative) have the largest datacenter footprint in the US by far. Across

Re: [Dovecot] Error: dict: Leaked a t_pop() call

2010-06-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 03:31 -0700, Brendan McCollam wrote: I'm running dovecot 1.0.7 on CentOS 5.5, and I've configured it to work this version is so old it is essentially unsupported The response seems to be nobody keeps their quota in MySQL, but the Lots of people do, us included

Re: [Dovecot] Error: dict: Leaked a t_pop() call

2010-06-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 14:05 -0700, Brendan McCollam wrote: that 1.0.7 is a pretty old release, and you don't have much control over what the distro maintainers choose to package. This is the biggest problem most people face. But the freedom of the Open Source world to use whats we want

Re: [Dovecot] step-to-step Installation Guide

2010-06-23 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 09:53 +0200, Gerhard Waldemair wrote: Am 23.06.2010 um 09:47 schrieb Marcus Linnenkohl: Hello, I'm new here, and I'm from Germany, so please be patient with me because my English is not so good ;) I am searching for a Step-to-Step Guide to first-configure

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 16:58 -0700, Daniel L. Miller wrote: On 6/24/2010 4:23 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote: I'd recommend also installing and configuring imapproxy - it can be beneficial with squirrelmail. Do you have any about a real world numbers about installation with and without

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-24 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 02:18 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 25.6.2010, at 1.37, Noel Butler wrote: If its running on a SOHO, you probably wouldn't even be able to measure the difference, but for an ISP/Telco or large institution, you will certainly notice the reduction in I/O (or loads

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 13:49 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 14:44 +0200, Amon Ott wrote: For whatever it is worth, we use imapproxy, because it allows us to use one-time passwords for webmail users. One login, not many. With large enough auth cache, I think that

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
apologies, I sent this direct to Eric not the list ore OP, my bad :) On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 13:46 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: snipped 7 pages of irrelevant un-trimmed crap now i would also need to edit the dovecot.conf file could you guide me on what changes do i need to dovecot.conf

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot evaluation on a 30 gb mailbox

2010-06-25 Thread Noel Butler
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 01:02 +0100, Timo Sirainen wrote: On 26.6.2010, at 0.57, Noel Butler wrote: As I mentioned earlier It doesnt with squirrelmail, I tried it on production and the I/O increased a bit, watching logging alone was giving me a headache (no, not in debug mode either

Re: [Dovecot] backing up emails

2010-06-28 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 14:27 +0800, Angelo Chen wrote: auth default: passdb: driver: pam userdb: driver: passwd You're using system accounts so yes, but I'd hope that if server is on any importance you would be doing more than just backing up that. /home /etc /var/mail or

Re: [Dovecot] backing up emails

2010-06-29 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 22:28 +0800, Angelo Chen wrote: Hi Noel, I use exim4 and it delivers right into ~/.Maildir, so I assume /home contains all the emails, right? why we need to back up /etc and /var/mail? Thanks, No real experience with Exim, last time I looked at it was 10 years

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 18:11 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: but if they don't virtual users is just as easy/legitimate as system users with no shell access. I agree, virtual users are not only easier to deal with, it gives you greater flexibility, but most importantly, better security. in the

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 04:01 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Anyone who isn't looking at mail logs or log summaries daily and taking action on any problems needing attention doesn't count as a mail OP. That's one of the most ridiculous things I've seen todate. Do you seriously expect ISP admins

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