Re: [Dri-devel] Triple Buffering

2002-11-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:45:19PM +, Ian Molton wrote: What's the point of trying to display 120 Hz if you monitor can only do 85 Hz? the faster you render, the lower your latency. its pointless for 3D modelling / artwork, but very nice for 3D games. Then you are taking

Re: [Dri-devel] libGL{U,w}

2002-11-22 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 04:11:10PM -0700, Brian Paul wrote: I'm willing to bet that there's around 100 header files in the XFree86 tree that get pulled into the compilation of the various DRI-related source files. Determining what to keep and what to discard would be a long process.

[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-users] New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Frank Steiner
Alexander Stohr wrote: The drivers should run on Linux/x86 with glibc 2.2, some common kernel modules do come precompiled and a build environment for gcc2.96 and gcc3.2 is included, thus making that drivers compatible with e.g. RedHat(R) Linux(R)/x86 8.0 or 7.3 versions. Hmm, according to

[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-users] New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Stefan Lange
Frank Steiner wrote: Alexander Stohr wrote: The drivers should run on Linux/x86 with glibc 2.2, some common kernel modules do come precompiled and a build environment for gcc2.96 and gcc3.2 is included, thus making that drivers compatible with e.g. RedHat(R) Linux(R)/x86 8.0 or 7.3 versions.

Re: [Dri-devel] Triple Buffering

2002-11-22 Thread Ian Molton
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 09:42:06 +0100 Marcelo E. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then you are taking about a single frame taking 1/120 seconds to render, and not about pushing 120 frames per second to the user. Which, if you think about it, is what I said previously. ok, fair enough. but

[Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Roman Stepanov
Hi, Alexander! It's a great news that ATI is making Linux driver for R200 boards, but this driver is very problematic to use for me and my friends. Below is a brief list of troubles I met installing this driver on my SuSE 8.1 box: At first I attempted to set up SuSE's xfglrx package to get 3D

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced Hi, Alexander! It's a great news that ATI is making Linux driver for R200 boards, for completeness its: R200/RV250/R300/some-Mobility At first I attempted to set up SuSE's xfglrx package to get 3D acceleration for my

Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Don, 2002-11-21 at 16:33, Alexander Stohr wrote: So this passed the news wires today: ATI drives graphics performance for Linux users with new unified driver http://mirror.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2002/4574.html The drivers can now be downloaded for free at www.ati.com (see e.g.

[Dri-devel] Radeon 9000 experiences.

2002-11-22 Thread Ian Molton
Hi. First, well done to the r200 coders - it works (CVS - whatever you get without specifying) some notes though... 1) glxinfo reported it didnt have DRI enabled until I straced it and found it looking for /dev/dri/card14. I created a symlink to /dev/dri/card0 and it worked (after also giving

[Dri-devel] mesa-4-1-branch: Which is the right xf86PciData.c version?

2002-11-22 Thread Dieter Ntzel
M xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/scanpci/xf86PciData.c But latest version. The current is much older. /* $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/scanpci/xf86ScanPci.c,v 1.12 2002/07/15 20:46:0 4 dawes Exp $ */ /* * Display the Subsystem Vendor Id and Subsystem Id in order to identify * the

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Roman Stepanov
On 22 Nov 2002 15:43, you wrote: After generating XF86Config and typing startx in command prompt X server failed to start. I found in system logs that 2D driver refused to work with third party boards. That's Intentional. On the list you can find several references to problems with the

RE: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced What about support for other architectures, in particular PPC? The Apple as the #1 PPC platform (okay there might be several others) does have an AGP slot and to my knowledge there is a nice ATI history for the MacOS. Not bad the

RE: [Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced I used stock SuSE 2.4.19-4GB kernel optimized for Athlon processors. Please try using a stock kernel.org kernel in the mean time. There might be need for us to check if there is a patch in the SuSE kernels that do impact system

[Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Brian Paul
My plan is to merge the mesa-41 branch into the DRI trunk this weekend. Let me know if there are any concerns. -Brian --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf

Re: [Dri-devel] mesa-4-1-branch: Which is the right xf86PciData.c version?

2002-11-22 Thread Alan Hourihane
That file is symlinked from xf86ScanPci.c, it shouldn't exist. Do a clean checkout. Alan. On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:37:35PM +0100, Dieter Nützel wrote: M xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/scanpci/xf86PciData.c But latest version. The current is much older. /* $XFree86:

Re: [Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
I would be worried that whatever is causing the server from the mesa-41 branch to crash under FreeBSD is going to make it way into the trunk. Adam On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Brian Paul wrote: My plan is to merge the mesa-41 branch into the DRI trunk this weekend. Let me know if there are any

Re: [Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Brian Paul
Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Brian Paul wrote: My plan is to merge the mesa-41 branch into the DRI trunk this weekend. Let me know if there are any concerns. I would be worried that whatever is causing the server from the mesa-41 branch to crash under FreeBSD is going to make

Re: [Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Jens Owen
Brian Paul wrote: Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Brian Paul wrote: My plan is to merge the mesa-41 branch into the DRI trunk this weekend. Let me know if there are any concerns. I would be worried that whatever is causing the server from the mesa-41 branch to crash

Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Jos Fonseca
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:24:34PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Don, 2002-11-21 at 16:33, Alexander Stohr wrote: Let me express that i do _not_ object to any of the DRI-Devel works. DRI did great job and it resolves for situations where ATI cant provide solutions as of today and possibly

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Daryll Strauss
The dri-devel list isn't ATI support. The announcement about the code was fine. I think we all want to know about other versions out there for comparison sake if nothing else. Once people started asking about powered by ati boards, other platforms, and other troubleshooting, it was no longer

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Manuel McLure
Alexander Stohr wrote: It's nearly impossible to buy build by ATI board in Moscow, so I was forced to apply my assembly skills to modify board vendor id in 2D driver (fglrx_drv.o). After replacing ATI's id (0x1002) with Gigabyte (0x1458) I was able to start XFree but I saw my text consoles

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 9000 experiences.

2002-11-22 Thread Dieter Nützel
Am Freitag, 22. November 2002 14:35 schrieb Ian Molton: 2) the movies at the start of Q3 are /excruciatingly/ slow (maybe 2FPS tops) the rest of the game is obviously accelerated. Trunk? Got that with all versions before and kernel 2.4.xx (SMP). After I installed 2.5.47+ it is smooth and

Re: [Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Jens Owen wrote: Brian Paul wrote: Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Brian Paul wrote: My plan is to merge the mesa-41 branch into the DRI trunk this weekend. Let me know if there are any concerns. I would be worried that whatever is

Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Ian Molton
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:56:05 + José Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already had my [unrelated] bad experiences with proprietary solutions and that's a path that I do my best to avoid, spite often having to choose to less featureful solutions. This is my stance - I don't expect that

[Dri-devel] dri-devel pmfs

2002-11-22 Thread Zahara Congdon
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Re: [Dri-devel] New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Andy Isaacson
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:44:51PM +0100, Alexander Stohr wrote: What about support for other architectures, in particular PPC? The Apple as the #1 PPC platform (okay there might be several others) does have an AGP slot and to my knowledge there is a nice ATI history for the MacOS. Not bad

Re: [Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Jens Owen
Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Jens Owen wrote: Brian Paul wrote: Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Brian Paul wrote: My plan is to merge the mesa-41 branch into the DRI trunk this weekend. Let me know if there are any concerns. I would be worried that whatever

Re: [Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Brian Paul
Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: I would be worried that whatever is causing the server from the mesa-41 branch to crash under FreeBSD is going to make it way into the trunk. Can you update your mesa-41 branch and rebuild? I just did another merge from the trunk which picked up a few updates. -Brain

[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-users] New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Simon Fowler
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 04:33:47PM +0100, Alexander Stohr wrote: Supported cards should be (list might not be complete): - ATI Radeon 8500 {/DV/LE}, 9000 {/PRO}, 9500 {/PRO}, 9700 {/PRO} - Built by ATI Does this mean these drivers have full 3D support for r300 based cards? If so,

Re: [Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Garry Reisky
I would like to see this. The visuals are looking terrific. I really like this branch. I just updated and built/instaled this and I really like. The only thing that bothers me is that there is a bad stutter in things. I think the best example of this is in Unreal Tournament. You will have good

Re: [Dri-devel] Adding GLX extensions?

2002-11-22 Thread Ian Romanick
Before I just launch into this, I will explain some of the motivation and (brief) history that led to this document. As near as I can tell, the GLX side of DRI has stagnated. I seems as though we are approaching a critical mass to make some real improvements in that area. Brian and I have had

[Dri-devel] CVS misbehaving

2002-11-22 Thread Brian Paul
David, I think this is a CVS problem that we've seen before. After merging from the DRI trunk and checking in the changes to the mesa-41 branch I'm finding that a number of files in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86 drivers/geode aren't getting updated correctly. Basically, committing changes to

[Dri-devel] Re: CVS misbehaving

2002-11-22 Thread Brian Paul
Brian Paul wrote: David, I think this is a CVS problem that we've seen before. After merging from the DRI trunk and checking in the changes to the mesa-41 branch I'm finding that a number of files in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86 drivers/geode aren't getting updated correctly. There's a few

Re: [Dri-devel] Adding GLX extensions?

2002-11-22 Thread Brian Paul
Ian Romanick wrote: Before I just launch into this, I will explain some of the motivation and (brief) history that led to this document. As near as I can tell, the GLX side of DRI has stagnated. I seems as though we are approaching a critical mass to make some real improvements in that area.

[Dri-devel] mesa-4-1: latest CVS - unresolved symbol

2002-11-22 Thread Dieter Ntzel
Linux 2.5.47 (radeon.o 1.6.0) GL_VERSION: 1.4 Mesa 5.0 GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_shadow_ambient GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine

Re: [Dri-devel] CVS misbehaving

2002-11-22 Thread David Dawes
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:55:55PM -0700, Brian Paul wrote: David, I think this is a CVS problem that we've seen before. After merging from the DRI trunk and checking in the changes to the mesa-41 branch I'm finding that a number of files in xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86 drivers/geode aren't

Re: [Dri-devel] Do Matrox/ATI help DRI devs?

2002-11-22 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Don, 2002-11-21 at 17:42, John M. Gabriele wrote: I was just browsing around the developer relations areas of the ATI and Matrox sites, and I'm getting the impression that they don't really care about having open source DRI drivers available for their products. Are these companies

Re: [Dri-devel] Merge of mesa-41 branch to trunk

2002-11-22 Thread Adam K Kirchhoff
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Brian Paul wrote: Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: I would be worried that whatever is causing the server from the mesa-41 branch to crash under FreeBSD is going to make it way into the trunk. Can you update your mesa-41 branch and rebuild? I just did another merge from the