Re: [Dvdrtools-users] dvdrecord, write track data: error

2003-01-28 Thread Arndt Schoenewald
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 11:23:10AM +0100, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
 
 perhaps because your DVD-R media are of lesser quality. Does that mean
 they are not allowed to burn succesfully? Am i smelling something here?
 Are all lesser quality DVD-R recordable company's goons, and suddenly
 overnight sell crap??
 Whats going on here?

I suggest you read a few tests reports for DVD-R/RW media as published
by various computer magazins. You will find that quality varies a lot.
There are many physical, chemical, and production issues to get right
when producing these media.

I won't go into details, and I won't enter a flamewar here. But remember
the media problems that we used to have a couple of years ago when CD-R
recording came up. (I have been working in the CD-R archiving business
since 1994 and have seen a *lot* of coasters.)

Arndt

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Re: [Dvdrtools-users] dvdrecord, write track data: error

2003-01-28 Thread Robert M. Stockmann
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Arndt Schoenewald wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 11:23:10AM +0100, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
  
  perhaps because your DVD-R media are of lesser quality. Does that mean
  they are not allowed to burn succesfully? Am i smelling something here?
  Are all lesser quality DVD-R recordable company's goons, and suddenly
  overnight sell crap??
  Whats going on here?
 
 I suggest you read a few tests reports for DVD-R/RW media as published
 by various computer magazins. 

I've become quite sceptic about the quality of test reports in the 
various computer magazins. 

Maybe we as a user-mailing list can do something for ourselves. 
We could post our brand/type of DVD-recorder and which DVD-R media brand/type
we are recording with. I here myself have a box of 50 Princo's where i
have mixed results with. Roughly i have a fail-rate of 50%. So 1 out of
2 DVD-R fails to burn on the outer rim. My burner is a Pioneer DVD-R(W) A05
with firmware 1.21 . And i burn everything with dvdrecord .

My cousin bought a similar box of 50 Princo's 1x 2x DVD-R and also
bought a Pioneer A05. He's still on firmware 1.00 and burns with nero .
He himself sofar has had a fail-rate of 0%. So all burns with the Princo's
were succesfull when running his windows XP and nero. All of those burns
were at 2x recording speed. 

Thats what my experiences are. Maybe dvdrecord currently ain't such a 
briljant burning tool?


Robert

 You will find that quality varies a lot.
 There are many physical, chemical, and production issues to get right
 when producing these media.
 
 I won't go into details, and I won't enter a flamewar here. But remember
 the media problems that we used to have a couple of years ago when CD-R
 recording came up. (I have been working in the CD-R archiving business
 since 1994 and have seen a *lot* of coasters.)
 
 Arndt
 
 

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Network Engineer - UNIX Consultant
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Re: [Dvdrtools-users] dvdrecord, write track data: error

2003-01-28 Thread André Dalle
I use Princo 1x DVDR and DVDRW media with my Pioneer A04.

I've had 2-3 coasters, and perhaps 4-5 discs with io errors; usually
not noticeable until I try and make an image of the burned disc.

However, this is over the last couple hundred disks I've burned, so I've
generally been quite successful.

I am using dvdrecord under Linux.

I have however found variability in readability of discs, from one batch to
the next (buying in 100-disc spindles).

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 12:02:49PM +0100, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Arndt Schoenewald wrote:
 
  On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 11:23:10AM +0100, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
   
   perhaps because your DVD-R media are of lesser quality. Does that mean
   they are not allowed to burn succesfully? Am i smelling something here?
   Are all lesser quality DVD-R recordable company's goons, and suddenly
   overnight sell crap??
   Whats going on here?
  
  I suggest you read a few tests reports for DVD-R/RW media as published
  by various computer magazins. 
 
 I've become quite sceptic about the quality of test reports in the 
 various computer magazins. 
 
 Maybe we as a user-mailing list can do something for ourselves. 
 We could post our brand/type of DVD-recorder and which DVD-R media brand/type
 we are recording with. I here myself have a box of 50 Princo's where i
 have mixed results with. Roughly i have a fail-rate of 50%. So 1 out of
 2 DVD-R fails to burn on the outer rim. My burner is a Pioneer DVD-R(W) A05
 with firmware 1.21 . And i burn everything with dvdrecord .
 
 My cousin bought a similar box of 50 Princo's 1x 2x DVD-R and also
 bought a Pioneer A05. He's still on firmware 1.00 and burns with nero .
 He himself sofar has had a fail-rate of 0%. So all burns with the Princo's
 were succesfull when running his windows XP and nero. All of those burns
 were at 2x recording speed. 
 
 Thats what my experiences are. Maybe dvdrecord currently ain't such a 
 briljant burning tool?
 
 
 Robert
 
  You will find that quality varies a lot.
  There are many physical, chemical, and production issues to get right
  when producing these media.
  
  I won't go into details, and I won't enter a flamewar here. But remember
  the media problems that we used to have a couple of years ago when CD-R
  recording came up. (I have been working in the CD-R archiving business
  since 1994 and have seen a *lot* of coasters.)
  
  Arndt
  
  
 
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 Network Engineer - UNIX Consultant
 crashrecovery.org  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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