[e-gold-list] RE: URGENT WARKING, READ AT ONCE!

2001-06-26 Thread gary
- Original Message - From: Ian Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:18 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] RE: URGENT WARKING, READ AT ONCE! Ian, Perhaps, you missed the posts to this list by offshoresurfer that say if you call Paritate's

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Ian Green
Apparently Bruce Springsteen also has performed this song. The lyrics are at http://www.thuismarkt.nl/users/springsteen/Lyrics/War-7585.html -Original Message- From: Ian Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2001 11:04 PM To: e-gold Discussion Subject: Fractional

[e-gold-list] RE: URGENT WARKING, READ AT ONCE!

2001-06-26 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.
This is no rumor. The National Bank of Latvia closed the bank by withdrawing its license. This took place yesterday morning. I would like to know what happened, but don't go blaming the messenger. The information is important. I wish it had been delivered earlier. On Tue, 26 Jun 2001

[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread SnowDog
http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745 If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them? Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right! JMR Incredible! Did they get anything right? * Gold Currencies are only 6 months

[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Michael Moore
http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745 If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them? Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right! JMR This is a PR job. Facts are irrelevant. Positioning and perception are not.

[e-gold-list] egold newsletter

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
I dunno if e-gold has considered it but they might want to consider sending an electronic newsletter to all its account holders periodically, new businesses could advertise in the newletter. It could be as simple as sending the most recent news from the e-gold News page. If the newsletter had

[e-gold-list] totally random fact

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
Someone (Viking?) was implying that the ADS in magazines SUPPLEMENT magazines incomes -- ie, mazgines/newspapers get income from the cover price. That is not correct (the cover price is all-but irrelevant), magazines, like all media, are simply things that exist because of advertising.

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold-list digest: June 21, 2001

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
Anybody who opened that attachment from David now has a trojan virus on their system. I have a Mac, so I for one am unharmed, but david best not ever meet me or my mates in person. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL

[e-gold-list] RE: More competition / patents

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
Dagny Taggart wrote: e-gold does not have a patent in anything. So what do they have to offer? Defensive patents are there to protect against patent lawsuits, not to start them. If that's what he's doing, he's only sitting on the patent as a means to wrangle a ceasefire if some other company

[e-gold-list] Re: Pay-Spam

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
Frankly, the demand for a list of all 280,000 e-gold customers would be a low quality list even if e-gold did rent it out. Only about 40% of those accounts actually have money in them, and even fewer have more than $10 worth. Fascinating, I now know of 3-4 clients that will pay anything (say,

[e-gold-list] it never ends!!!

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
At 7:52 AM -0700 6/26/01, Charles Evans wrote: Please pardon the impersonality of this message. It is going to several recipients. While attending a conference in Scotland, I was served a 15-page civil complaint, initiated by Gold Silver Reserve, this morning. They accuse me,

[e-gold-list] the end in sight

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
Goldfingercoin.com is launching its new gold currency very soon. http://www.e-bullion.com/ Gee, it will be funny to see the philosophical debate there about them not letting trusted, large merchants who want to advertise on their site to e-bullion users, do so. (Previous sentence:

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
I am quite possibly going to brand myself a pariah on this list by standing up in favor of fractional reserve banking, though certainly not its current incarnation. There is nothing wrong with fractional reserves per se. The problem is the incestuous relationship between the checking and the

[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread James M. Ray
At 08:53 AM -0500 06/26/2001, SnowDog wrote: http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745 If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them? Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right! JMR Incredible! Did they get anything

[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder
Well, Gold Money IS incorporated in the Bahamas. Their corporate headquarters are in the Bahamas, but they are incorporated out of, and have their administrative headquarters in, the British Isles (Isle of Man). This reporter did even less research than Declan did a little while ago. Leo has

[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Ken Griffith
Actually, you got that backwards: GoldMoney is incorporated in the Bahamas Their operational corporate HQ is in the Isle of Man. - Original Message - From: Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: [e-gold-list]

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Ken Griffith
I think, Sam, that you are on the right track there. Fractional reserve is fine IF the institution tells the customer in the user agreement, If you ask for your money at any time we MIGHT give it to you, or we MIGHT NOT. Perhaps a better way of dealing with that problem is short-term rolling

[e-gold-list] Re: totally random fact

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder
Someone (Viking?) was implying that the ADS in magazines SUPPLEMENT magazines incomes -- ie, mazgines/newspapers get income from the cover price. That is not correct (the cover price is all-but irrelevant), magazines, like all media, are simply things that exist because of

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder
A currency that is 100% backed by gold may sell itself as AUG or grams of gold. To which e-gold GoldMoney, and soon e-bullion, can all stand and proudly proclaim. Standard Reserve's gold-backed side of their accounts also meet this qualification, even if they are 1 step removed, being 100%

[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 26 Jun 2001, at 12:02, Viking Coder wrote: Well, Gold Money IS incorporated in the Bahamas. Their corporate headquarters are in the Bahamas, but they are incorporated out of, and have their administrative headquarters in, the British Isles (Isle of Man). The GoldMoney system is

[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder
Actually, you got that backwards: GoldMoney is incorporated in the Bahamas Their operational corporate HQ is in the Isle of Man. Oops... GoldMoney's corporate HQ is operated by Net Transactions Ltd. which is incorporated in, and run out of, the Bahamas. GoldMoney's administrative HQ is

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Ken Griffith
The only one who is currently an ether gold is OSGold. If they are not 100% backed, then I fully agree with you, but where is the evidence. It seems to me that we just don't know what OSGold is since they have not disclosed it. They might be 100% backed, they might be pure ether (no backing

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder
The only one who is currently an ether gold is OSGold. If they are not 100% backed, then I fully agree with you, but where is the evidence. It seems to me that we just don't know what OSGold is since they have not disclosed it. They have. They made a proud, high-faluting claim of being

[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................

2001-06-26 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.
Paritate is dead. What is the first thing every account holder is going to do? pull out their money. Even if the situation gets resolved, no one is going to trust Paritate any more. This is one of those things you don't let happen. ONce it happens, the bank is dead. Even if someone bought

[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................

2001-06-26 Thread Steven
Hello, Your assumptions are a bit premature and emotionally tainted. Paritate Bank is experiencing problems right now. There is no word on the permanency of this issue, but the bank has personally told us that everything should be operational in two or three days. It seems that

[e-gold-list] Re: Ah, reporters

2001-06-26 Thread Julian Morrison
James M. Ray wrote: http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/update/story.jsp?story=79745 If you don't have any facts, why waste valuable time asking for them? Just skim a few articles and then dream up whatever sounds right! I don't like the tone of these recent news articles.

[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................

2001-06-26 Thread offshoresurfer
Paritate is dead. What is the first thing every account holder is going to do? pull out their money. Even if the situation gets resolved, no one is going to trust Paritate any more. This is one of those things you don't let happen. ONce it happens, the bank is dead. Even if someone

[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................

2001-06-26 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.
NOthing would make me happier than if that was true. However the reality is that the second after they get back up and running, everyone is going to pull their money out. Where are they going to get that money? They know this. I have been trying to open up a new account there for the last two

[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................

2001-06-26 Thread Glencannon Group Ltd.
I sincerely hope you are right, but at this point I think my vacation money is gone! On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:06:58 +0200, offshoresurfer wrote: Paritate is dead. What is the first thing every account holder is going to do? pull out their money. Even if the situation gets

[e-gold-list] Re: Paritate?.....................

2001-06-26 Thread vicman
Fact is it does happen OFTEN and it's going to keep happening. In many cases the reasons why it is happening may be disturbing. Here's a another example this week: This is a story filed under Oddly Enough on the Iwon news service (run by CBS I believe. Read the second to last paragraph. What

[e-gold-list] What good is backing?

2001-06-26 Thread Craig Spencer
The only one who is currently an ether gold is OSGold. If they are not 100% backed, then I fully agree with you, but where is the evidence. It seems to me that we just don't know what OSGold is since they have not disclosed it. They have. They made a proud, high-faluting claim

[e-gold-list] Re: What good is backing?

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder
They have. They made a proud, high-faluting claim of being 150% backed. Then they described what they actually meant when they said 150% backed; 50% paper fiat cash, 50% paper gold certificates, 50% gold. Which means they aren't 100% backed by hard gold. More to the point: they have no

[e-gold-list] Offshore Banking

2001-06-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can someone give me some information about the Anglo-American Bank? http://www.angloamericanbank.com I would appreciate getting the information from someone who has an account in that bank already (No rumours please, just facts). Thanks in advance for your replies.

[e-gold-list] Re: What good is backing?

2001-06-26 Thread Vince Callaway
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Viking Coder wrote: snip Very true. Even if they claimed to match circulation 100% by hard un-allocated metal, without a redemption policy they are not a gold backed currency. Until OSGold implements a redemption procedure, they will be a EGC Ether Gold Currency. /snip

[e-gold-list] Re: What good is backing?

2001-06-26 Thread SnowDog
The thing is, there are probably cheaper ways to get a physical bar of gold in either Dubai or London, but since it can be done IMO someone's probably someday going to do it (but it won't be me!). IMO, speaking only for myself, etc... JMR Well, the important thing is, is that if there is a

[e-gold-list] Re: it never ends!!!

2001-06-26 Thread Bob
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:52 AM -0700 6/26/01, Charles Evans wrote: Please pardon the impersonality of this message. It is going to several recipients. While attending a conference in Scotland, I was served a 15-page civil complaint, initiated by Gold Silver Reserve, this

[e-gold-list] Re: MetalSavings withdrawals

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
I notice that MetalSavings has zero in its account, so that withdrawals are obviously impossible. Isn't zero a rather slim reserve? I would have thought twenty to fifty percent would be more like it. heh -- you know, there may be a new service, along the lines of metal savings, coming soon.

[e-gold-list] free shippin'

2001-06-26 Thread jpm
i notice Amazon (in a desperate bid to actually make money? :) ) is offering a lot of FREE shipping lately - example, buy any COMBINATION of books and music or dvds, and you get free shipping. Take advantage on bananagold.com. (All special offers, etc, are automatically passed on to

[e-gold-list] Re: MetalSavings withdrawals

2001-06-26 Thread Andrew McMeikan
I notice that MetalSavings has zero in its account, so that withdrawals are obviously impossible. Isn't zero a rather slim reserve? I would have thought twenty to fifty percent would be more like it. I agree, it has been at zero for a while now. Would anyone more patient than me like to