[e-gold-list] Re: Economic lunacy

2003-10-06 Thread Wilkinson Jens
--- Jim Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We actually have an example of such an economy. > Consider the Byzantine empire, from 450 to 1453 AD. > The entire economy was based on the gold solidus > coin. As a result, Byzantium traded with every > country in the known w

[e-gold-list] Re: Has any had dealings?

2003-10-06 Thread zenbiker
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[e-gold-list] Re: Actually-smart cards

2003-10-06 Thread zenbiker
These features could be easily implemented using existing technology -- I do not know because I do not use credit cards, but it is hard to imagine that there are not at least some providers out there who do not offer a form of 'block' service for certain types of transactions. Smart cards are a su

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread FileMatrix
Dear Patrick, >Why stop at 10%? Crank it up to 20% >> He is not creating any value... > Other people are creating the value. Really?! Why should they create value if you don't. You tell Danny not to stop at 10% inflation, yet you want *other* people to create value. And you talk about slavery

[e-gold-list] Re: Economic lunacy

2003-10-06 Thread zenbiker
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[e-gold-list] Re: Economic lunacy

2003-10-06 Thread FileMatrix
Dear Jim, > The supply of gold grows. What do you think gold mining companies are doing? I agree, but there is one catch: the gold does not belong to the people. So, the welth of those who mine the gold and of those who own the land increases with 2% per year, not of a country. Best regards, G

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > In other words, this 'only gold' economy always functions with the > > brakes > > on. > > Yes, the computer industry is certainly functioning with the brakes on, > isn't it? My goodness, the amount of computing power you can get for > the money is doubling every year, so people tend to postpon

[e-gold-list] Re: Economic lunacy

2003-10-06 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> > An economy where only gold is used as money, would have > > some problems. > > We actually have an example of such an economy. > Consider the Byzantine empire, from 450 to 1453 AD. > The entire economy was based on the gold solidus > coin. As a result, Byzantium traded with every > country in

[e-gold-list] forrest "looses" it, and please, George, stop . . .

2003-10-06 Thread peelpee
Hello, Next to the word definitely, the most annoying misspelling I frequently observe on-line is "loose" for the word lose. Will you fucking "loosers" please shape up? . . . and, George, will you please refrain from any further tortured postings re: the economy and gold? I fear your hopelessl

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 12:55 AM, Steve Schear wrote: "Under a gold standard, the amount of credit that an economy can support is determined by the economy's tangible assets, since every credit instrument is ultimately a claim on some tangible asset," ... This reminds me of another import

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:01 PM 10/6/2003 +0300, FileMatrix wrote: Yes Steve, I agree with what you just said, but what you don't accept to understand is that USA is the only country that can afford to inflate its currency because the USD circulates in the entire world. So, for the other countries of the world it does

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread FileMatrix
> I think you need to check your facts. As Greenspan said All countries > that use non-gold backed fiat money inflate their currencies. Period. Steve, I was referring to over-inflating the currency - printing money without having economy to back it up with. Forrest, I didn't get your "defi

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 05:01 AM, FileMatrix wrote: Why stop at 10%? Crank it up to 20% He is not creating any value... Other people are creating the value. Really?! Why should they create value if you don't. You tell Danny not to stop at 10% inflation, yet you want *other* people to cre

[e-gold-list] Re: Economic lunacy

2003-10-06 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Jens, For whatever reason, your e-mail client describes you as: Wilkinson Jens in the "from" header of your e-mail messages. Since your e-mails come from Yahoo, you can probably change this setting in the "my settings" section. I regret not having looked closer at your e-mail address for a b

[e-gold-list] communists in Romania

2003-10-06 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear George, I agree, but there is one catch: the gold does not belong to the people. Gold very obviously belongs to some people. Are you opposed to gold because it hasn't been nationalized by the so-called "dictatorship of the proletariat"? Gold was nationalized in the Soviet Union. All those m

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Steve Schear
At 07:07 PM 10/6/2003 +0300, "FileMatrix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you need to check your facts. As Greenspan said All countries > that use non-gold backed fiat money inflate their currencies. Period. Steve, I was referring to over-inflating the currency - printing money without h

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Steve Schear
At 12:11 PM 10/6/2003 -0400, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: It is also precisely why the US government will never allow the payment of taxes in gold, and why in the 1930's they banned businesses from writing contracts denominated in gold. The system we have can only be maintained by force of arms -- o

[e-gold-list] Re: communists in Romania

2003-10-06 Thread FileMatrix
Dear Jim, > Are you opposed to gold because it hasn't been nationalized by the so-called "dictatorship of the proletariat"? Maybe you have not read what Patrick said about gold belonging to *people*, not to the country. In that sense I told you that the mined gold doesn't belong to the people. T

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 01:40 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 12:11 PM 10/6/2003 -0400, Patrick Chkoreff wrote: It is also precisely why the US government will never allow the payment of taxes in gold, and why in the 1930's they banned businesses from writing contracts denominated in gold. Th

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[e-gold-list] Reserve Bank economic controls and polygamy. Was Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Ian Green
> From: Steve Schear > Sent: Tuesday, 7 October 2003 3:35 AM > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way [Addressing FileMatrix, he writes:) > Well, as the joke goes... we've already established what you > are, now we're > just haggling over the price. Inflation is theft. Wh

[e-gold-list] Re: communists in Romania

2003-10-06 Thread Hannibal Smith
On Monday, October 6, 2003, at 08:15 PM, FileMatrix wrote: You don't like a government to have too much power, yet you have no problem with a company (those who would mine the gold - everybody's money) having too much?! What is the principle that 1. Those who would mine the gold don't have "everyb

[e-gold-list] Re: Economic lunacy

2003-10-06 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Danny, Hmmm. 450 to 1453 AD is not exactly known as a time of great progress. Yes, it is. It was a time of great progress in Byzantium and in the Caliphate. The Caliphate eventually succumbed to the Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan, and Constantinople finally fell to the Turks. But, during th

[e-gold-list] Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
>(1) An individual saves money, i.e. > spends less than he earns. (2) The individual seeks a return on his > savings, so he invests it with, say, a venture capital firm. (3) An > entrepreneur approaches the venture capitalist with a promising > business plan. (4) The venture capitalist invests a

[e-gold-list] Re: communists in Romania

2003-10-06 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear George, About your "subject"... I think you have a problem with equality since I see you refer to people with different ideas than yours, as "socialist" and "communist" Actually, that's not true. I refer to people with socialistic ideas as socialist and those with communistic ideas as commun

[e-gold-list] e-gold is World Wide Money

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[e-gold-list] Re: communists in Romania

2003-10-06 Thread Hannibal Smith
So... if inflationary fiat (fake) money works better than real money because people are so eager to get rid of it before it loses value that it kicks the economy into a frenzy of action... Then fake computers which slow down by 10% every year would be great for the economy too, because people would

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[e-gold-list] Re: Reserve Bank economic controls and polygamy. Was Re: When e-gold takes off in a big way

2003-10-06 Thread Robert S.Z.
Hello Ian, Actually the 4 wives rule is more of a guideline than a rule and once you practice polygamy you will realize that the only way to keep the wives at bay is to keep adding ;o) That said, isn't the reason governments *want* and *need* inflation simply that it is the only way to continue fa

[e-gold-list] fits of the survivalists

2003-10-06 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear George, Survival of the fittest? By the way, the free enterprise system represents cooperation at its very finest. Socialists and communists pretend that they are looking out for the interests of others, but the reality is much nastier. In a free enterprise system, those with the most to ga

[e-gold-list] Re: Economic lunacy

2003-10-06 Thread Khurram Khan
> Hmmm. 450 to 1453 AD is not exactly known as a time of > great progress. > It is better known as the dark middle ages. Dark ages in Europe, but a lot of scientific and social advancements were made in the Muslim world during this period. Khurram Khan --- You are currently subscribed to e-go

[e-gold-list] The impressive progress of the Caliphate

2003-10-06 Thread Jim Davidson
Dear Khurram, Dark ages in Europe, but a lot of scientific and social advancements were made in the Muslim world during this period. I think the idea that this time was utterly dark in Europe is mistaken. But there was great progress in the Muslim world. I should very much like to hear your thou