[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread SnowDog
VC writes: "I don't understand why it's a bad thing to allow a 100% backed currency to be used as the basis for a fractional reserve banking system." It's pretty simple, it causes inflation. [...] Is it true, though, that GoldMoney will not ALLOW a third party to use goldgrams as the basis

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 13 Apr 2001, at 7:48, SnowDog wrote: Is it true, though, that GoldMoney will not ALLOW a third party to use goldgrams as the basis for a fractional reserve gold bank? Yes. From GoldMoney user agreement: VIII C. iii "The User agrees to keep his unallocated, undivided interest in the

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread CCS
VC writes: "I don't understand why it's a bad thing to allow a 100% backed currency to be used as the basis for a fractional reserve banking system." It's pretty simple, it causes inflation. For an economist inflation is usually defined as "an increase in the money supply". This

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread SnowDog
"The User agrees to keep his unallocated, undivided interest in the pool of gold held in storage at a Vault free from any liens, encumbrances, charges or claims" In other words, GoldGrams cannot be leased or loaned nor can any derivatives be created on them. It seems like this would really

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread CCS
Is it true, though, that GoldMoney will not ALLOW a third party to use goldgrams as the basis for a fractional reserve gold bank? Yes. This is a very interesting aspect of GoldMoney that escaped me. And it is very disturbing because it is an intrusion on the holder's use which is

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 13 Apr 2001, at 11:32, CCS wrote: This is a very interesting aspect of GoldMoney that escaped me. I don't see iot as disturbing at all. And it is very disturbing because it is an intrusion on the holder's use which is impractical to enforce. It is indeed an intrusion... but that is

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread David Hillary
SnowDog wrote: VC writes: "I don't understand why it's a bad thing to allow a 100% backed currency to be used as the basis for a fractional reserve banking system." It's pretty simple, it causes inflation. [...] Is it true, though, that GoldMoney will not ALLOW a third party to use

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread David Hillary
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VC writes: "I don't understand why it's a bad thing to allow a 100% backed currency to be used as the basis for a fractional reserve banking system." It's pretty simple, it causes inflation. Right now DigiGold's literature says that is maintains a 25% reserve.

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread CCS
And it is very disturbing because it is an intrusion on the holder's use which is impractical to enforce. It is indeed an intrusion... but that is GoldMoney right to do so. Sure they have a right... It is disturbing that (1) they would do do something so stupid as require something that

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 14 Apr 2001, at 0:04, David Hillary wrote: You can lend currency and take deposits and make payments, do virtually anything with currency, just don't try and say 'this 400oz bar in toronto is mine, I have 400oz of e-gold, so if i don't pay you what i owe you you can go down to the

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 13 Apr 2001, at 14:02, CCS wrote: Sure they have a right... It is disturbing that (1) they would do do something so stupid as require something that cannot be enforced and Again CCS, they can enforce it after the fact by removing the user's privilege...and that is good enough (2)

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread Julian Morrison
SnowDog wrote: "The User agrees to keep his unallocated, undivided interest in the pool of gold held in storage at a Vault free from any liens, encumbrances, charges or claims" In other words, GoldGrams cannot be leased or loaned nor can any derivatives be created on them. It

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 13 Apr 2001, at 19:31, Julian Morrison wrote: As I read this, you cannot lease or loan GoldGrams... but you can create a payment now, with a contractual agreement to repay with *some unspecified* GoldGrams. Well a goldgram like a gram of e-gold is specific. But I agree with you, this

[e-gold-list] Re: Frac reserve

2001-04-13 Thread David Hillary
CCS wrote: VC writes: "I don't understand why it's a bad thing to allow a 100% backed currency to be used as the basis for a fractional reserve banking system." It's pretty simple, it causes inflation. For an economist inflation is usually defined as "an increase in the money