[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Ian Green
Apparently Bruce Springsteen also has performed this song. The lyrics are at http://www.thuismarkt.nl/users/springsteen/Lyrics/War-7585.html -Original Message- From: Ian Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 June 2001 11:04 PM To: e-gold Discussion Subject: Fractional

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
I am quite possibly going to brand myself a pariah on this list by standing up in favor of fractional reserve banking, though certainly not its current incarnation. There is nothing wrong with fractional reserves per se. The problem is the incestuous relationship between the checking and the

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Ken Griffith
Message - From: Samuel Mc Kee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for? I am quite possibly going to brand myself a pariah on this list by standing up in favor

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder
A currency that is 100% backed by gold may sell itself as AUG or grams of gold. To which e-gold GoldMoney, and soon e-bullion, can all stand and proudly proclaim. Standard Reserve's gold-backed side of their accounts also meet this qualification, even if they are 1 step removed, being 100%

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Ken Griffith
The only one who is currently an ether gold is OSGold. If they are not 100% backed, then I fully agree with you, but where is the evidence. It seems to me that we just don't know what OSGold is since they have not disclosed it. They might be 100% backed, they might be pure ether (no backing

[e-gold-list] RE: Fractional Reserve Banking... What is it good for?

2001-06-26 Thread Viking Coder
The only one who is currently an ether gold is OSGold. If they are not 100% backed, then I fully agree with you, but where is the evidence. It seems to me that we just don't know what OSGold is since they have not disclosed it. They have. They made a proud, high-faluting claim of being

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-16 Thread David Hillary
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hillary: It's not theft to provide a liquidity service. fractional reserve banking provides liquidity and is a free market credit configuration. Although it is possible that depositors will have a delay in redeeming their deposits or suffer a capital loss on

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-16 Thread Bob
David Hillary wrote: Money is means of exchange, a transactional medium, means of payment, it is created by banks whose balances can be used and are in fact used to make payments. I don't agree with your definition of money at all. Nor is it the classical definition. Let's assume your

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-15 Thread Viking Coder
HK Kid wrote "What you say is true (altho it would violate the terms of governance of the e-gold system) but it is beside the point of what I understood to be the original topic. Namely, the assertion that the use by a 3rd party, such as SR, of e-gold to back another currency, such as AUG,

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-15 Thread SnowDog
Capitalism succeeds because it is based upon one of humanity's greatest failings... Greed. Greed - the desire to improve one's situation - is not a failing; it is a virtue. Wow, I agree! There are those who set their image of man to be somewhat different than man is. Then when man

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-15 Thread Tristan Petersen
Capitalism succeeds because it is based upon one of humanity's greatest failings... Greed. Greed - the desire to improve one's situation - is not a failing; it is a virtue. Wow, I agree! .. "The Utopia of Greed" in Atlas Shrugged comes to mind :) Tristan --- You are currently

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-15 Thread Julian Morrison
Tristan Petersen wrote: Capitalism succeeds because it is based upon one of humanity's greatest failings... Greed. Greed - the desire to improve one's situation - is not a failing; it is a virtue. Wow, I agree! .. "The Utopia of Greed" in Atlas Shrugged comes to mind :)

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-15 Thread David Hillary
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "What you say is true (altho it would violate the terms of governance of the e-gold system) but it is beside the point of what I understood to be the original topic. Namely, the assertion that the use by a 3rd party, such as SR, of e-gold to back another currency,

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-15 Thread CCS
Greed - the desire to improve one's situation - is not a failing; it is a virtue. True. As craig said, we don't have the proper words to describe the good form of greed vs. the common connotation of greed. Well, we do have the word 'avarice'. There are plenty of proper words in the

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-13 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 13 Apr 2001, at 11:38, CCS wrote: Because you introduce a new risk. The unit of account of the new digital currency system is then no longer backed 100% by an hard asset (gold) as soon as you use credit instruments to increase your broad money base. Huh??? A risk for which

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-13 Thread SnowDog
Since we don't know what happen with the proceeds from the issuance of these e-gold bonds, the risk cannot be controlled. That is how I understand fractional reserve banking. I don't think your terminology is correct. I don't believe bonds can be issued that way. However, that's not the

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-13 Thread CCS
Because you introduce a new risk. The unit of account of the new digital currency system is then no longer backed 100% by an hard asset (gold) as soon as you use credit instruments to increase your broad money base. Huh??? A risk for which currency? There are two units of account

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-13 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 13 Apr 2001, at 14:11, CCS wrote: Namely, the assertion that the use by a 3rd party, such as SR, of e-gold to back another currency, such as AUG, would introduce risk to e-gold itself. I don't remember saying this. The risk I mentioned was for the currency that is introducing fractional

[e-gold-list] Re: Fractional Reserve Banking

2001-04-13 Thread Viking Coder
Claude wrote I agree with this. But it could also be e-gold itself that issue those loans and then the digital currency system that is e-gold could become in default and go bankrupt. This would be in direct violation of the user agreement. e-gold ltd. cannot simply create e-gold out of