Re: Green Druggies

1999-01-26 Thread joe dees
At Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:46:40 EST, you wrote: Hi, it's profound, really, just think what an amazing statement about marijuana this is--it inspires independent thought, compassion, concern with the environment and social justice! My God! Next thing ya know, these damned kids will be

Re: Agenda for healing the world

1999-01-26 Thread Mtmolle329
Hello again: Perhaps we may wish to rephrase item six in order to clarify that the means of population reduction be nonviolent, noncoercive and voluntary. There are many unfortunate means to reduce population including those of totalitarian or governmental coersion. Thank you. Mtmolle

Re: Concern for Environment is a sign of teen drug use.

1999-01-26 Thread Mtmolle329
Well, put that one in your pipe and smoke it! In a message dated 1/25/1999 8:35:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: "Concern for Environment" is a sign of teen drug use. Date:

Re: Agenda for healing the world

1999-01-26 Thread Jellking
Hi, re rephrasing, to you and all and sundry! Just do it! Cut and paste the changes and post 'em! I don't own this. I'll perform the "housekeeping" bit of adding/deleting for a whole document from time to time, if people want me to, but it's really an organic process; and where we disagree,

Re: Concern for Environment is a sign of teen drug use.

1999-01-26 Thread Jellking
In a message dated 1/25/99 8:47:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And were teens! Thats not too bad to be no matter how long a persons been on earth:) I hear this, Bertina!!! Was it Virginia Woolf who said "you are always the same age inside?" whoever, I've always known

Re: Concern for Environment is a sign of teen drug use.

1999-01-26 Thread Jellking
No, oops, remembered myself, it was Gertrude Stein who said that. (sorry, English teacher, can't stop myself). Jane

Re: A Plea for Tolerance

1999-01-26 Thread Unleesh
In a message dated 1/25/99 1:13:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gastric puritanicalism Ok, again, the issue is not around taste. It's around ethics.

Re: tolerance of intolerance

1999-01-26 Thread Unleesh
In a message dated 1/25/99 4:01:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: think vegetarianism has been elevated(?) to religious status. Vegetarianism is a religion? Puhlaze. What about the Church of Meat, to whom so many are sacrificed? What about the unquestioned

Five things to remember...

1999-01-26 Thread joe dees
(1) Not all vegetarians are ecofeminists. (2) Not all ecofeminists are vegetarians. (3) There's a big difference between deep ecologists and hip deep ecologists. (4) My choices are not yours to make, my freedoms are not yours to take. (5) If you read my Plea for Tolerance through, you would

Re: Five things to remember...

1999-01-26 Thread Cheryl Taylor
Joe, I hope I didn't miss this discussion. I'm sorry if I did. But what would be the simplified version of the difference between a deep ecologists and a hip deep ecologists? Cheryl At 01:44 AM 1/26/99 -0500, you wrote: (1) Not all vegetarians are ecofeminists. (2) Not all

Re: Five things to remember...

1999-01-26 Thread joe dees
At Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:51:32 -0500, you wrote: Joe, I hope I didn't miss this discussion. I'm sorry if I did. But what would be the simplified version of the difference between a deep ecologists and a hip deep ecologists? Cheryl There are actually two kinds of hip deep

wanted: Gender training materials produced in the South

1999-01-26 Thread Heike Wach
Dear Networkers BRIDGE, an information service on gender and development, is currently looking for gender training materials in order to compile an annotated bibliography of sources that are produced and used by Southern organisations. The focus is on Africa (primarily francophone but also

materiel pour la formation en genre produits au Sud

1999-01-26 Thread Heike Wach
Bonjour! BRIDGE, un service d'information sur le "genre et developpement", recherche actuellement des sources qui sont produites et utilisées par des organisations au Sud pour les formations sur le genre (et les problèmes spécifiques des femmes). Nous espérons pouvoir rédiger une

Re: Five things to remember..

1999-01-26 Thread Bertina Miller
I got that one, I am surprised others didnt! PS anyone else out there livid that we cant know whats going on with the dismissal motion until the senators see fit to vote on it-who knows when? Bertina [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, joe dees wrote: At Tue, 26 Jan 1999

Re: Agenda for healing the world

1999-01-26 Thread Elizabeth MacNabb
Jane, I like it very much. I do have a small objection to #4, in that fertility is not a universal value. I think healing between genders is a value in itself. --E. 4. To promote healing between the genders, as such healing is the basis of fertility.

Re: Concern for Environment is a sign of teen drug use.

1999-01-26 Thread Kimberly Brett
Jane, You are an English teacher? I was an English minor in undergrad with a major in Political Science. It made sense at the time. Now I am in grad school working on a Masters in Political Science. What areas do you teach? kimberly -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: STUDIES IN WOMEN

Re: Agenda for healing the world

1999-01-26 Thread Kimberly Brett
Hi If you are interested in a good book about poor women and children, you might want to find "Women and Children Last". I will get back to you with an author, or you might want to find it at amazon.com. I tutored in social welfare policy class last semester and this was one of the books on the

Dismissal of Clinton case debated

1999-01-26 Thread Kimberly Brett
Dismissal of Clinton case debated WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate closed its doors Monday to debate a Democratic attempt to dismiss all charges against President Clinton and bring his impeachment trial to an end. House prosecutors pressed their case for testimony by Monica Lewinsky and a shortened

Straw to Paper

1999-01-26 Thread Donna Anderson
MONTANAN STRAW-FOR-PAPER STUDY SHOWS POTENTIAL FOR NEW JOBS AND INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES The Native Forest Network has just completed the study Making Paper From Montana's Straw: A Guide to Making Straw Pulp a Reality. The project was made possible in part by a Montana Agriculture Development

$4 bln sought to combat global warming and other news

1999-01-26 Thread Kimberly Brett
$4 bln sought to combat global warming WASHINGTON (AP) - While the Kyoto climate treaty remains in limbo, the Clinton administration in its upcoming budget will propose $4 billion in spending and tax breaks, a third more than this year, to help address global warming. Vice President Al Gore said

Re: the veggie debate

1999-01-26 Thread sullivan
At 06:13 PM 1/21/99 -0500, you wrote: At Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:09:22 -0500, you wrote: At 02:42 AM 1/21/99 EST, you wrote: I have been following this debate with much interest for a personal reason. I am the companion of three rescued potbellied pigs. They are most certainly thinking, feeling

Re: the veggie debate

1999-01-26 Thread sullivan
Hi mtmolle -- Possibly true... but wouldn't you agree that the suffering inflicted on animals mirrors that of humans? Wouldn't you agree also, that much of the cruelty inflicted in this world has not really changed, except with regard to WHO it is directed at?? If we "allow," even condone,

Re: the veggie debate

1999-01-26 Thread sullivan
At 08:55 AM 1/22/99 -0500, you wrote: Respecting someone inflicting suffering-damn veggies know how to make a meat eater feel guilty. Guess what, I will still eat meat. Respecting tribal life is not respecting suffering or the infliction of suffering. And as regards to "arent plants alive"

SORRY!!!!!

1999-01-26 Thread sullivan
Oops, I have not retrieved my e-mail for a few days on just read the message regarding ending "the veggie debate." Sorry for sending the last two responses. And, BTW... THANKS for making it end!! Now I can go back to leading a normal life [g] - Charlotte.

Ecofeminist speakers

1999-01-26 Thread -=- kristi -=-
I am a member of an activist group with the interest of uniting both the activists as well as their causes. We are planning a series of presentations centering on different issues. I brought up the idea of ecofeminism. I am looking for anyone interested in speaking on ecofeminism (who is

Re: Agenda for healing the world

1999-01-26 Thread DaliDiego
Just wanted to point out that buying books via amazon.com is putting independents out of business. Please consider the implications. And I'd be glad to say more!

Re: Agenda for healing the world

1999-01-26 Thread Kimberly Brett
I only suggested amazon.com as a reference to look up authors, books, and information about books. I didn't imply for anyone to purcase the books through them. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Agenda for healing the world

(Fwd) Worthy on Merchant, _Green Versus Gold_

1999-01-26 Thread STEFANIE S. RIXECKER
Dear All: This is x-posted from ASEH-L with permission. Sorry about any duplicates. Stefanie Rixecker ECOFEM Coordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Carolyn Merchant, ed. _Green Versus Gold: Sources in California's Environmental History_. Washington, D.C.:

New Jobs on the SD Gateway

1999-01-26 Thread Lani Innes

New Jobs on the SD Gateway

1999-01-26 Thread Lani Innes
** Apologies for Cross-Posting ** Veuillez contacter [EMAIL PROTECTED] pour ce message en Français. Por favor, contactarse con [EMAIL PROTECTED] para esta información en Español. *** New Sustainable Development Jobs on the SD Gateway *** English

Two Butterflies Meet in Redwood Forest

1999-01-26 Thread Bflyspirit
For Release: August 20, 1998 Two Butterflies Meet in Redwood Forest The story of Julia Butterfly will be included in a forthcoming book by Alan Moore and Norie Huddle about people whose lives have been changed by butterflies. The book will tell the stories of twelve people from around the

Hello from Heaven

1999-01-26 Thread Bflyspirit
Butterflies and Rainbows: Symbolic ADCs From the book "Hello From Heaven!" by Bill Guggenheim Judy Guggenheim. Please visit her site A HREF="http://www.after-death.com/"http://www.after- death.com//A C H A P T E R 14 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it

Re: Dismissal of Clinton case debated

1999-01-26 Thread Sandra Taylor
1) Not all ecofeminists are American. 2) America is not the centre of the universe. Please spare me further updates on America's response Clinton's sex life. This is not an ecofeminist issue or even a issue of interest at all to those of us who don't live in the US of A. Sandra

Re: Dismissal of Clinton case debated

1999-01-26 Thread Kimberly Brett
Sandra, I posted the article because Clinton has been a topic discussed recently by some members of the list. Just because a topic concerns American news or government should not be a reason for it to be restricted. If you have news from/about your country you are free to post it, as everyone

meat eating, the buffalo, and ecofeminism

1999-01-26 Thread Jake A Paisain
Wow! I can see that the ecofem listserv is in the same quandry as our ecofemmers were at last years conference on the subject of meat eating. The banter on this list really shows what an emotional subject the consumption of food is for humans, and how strongly attached they are to their ideas

Re: Dismissal of Clinton case debated

1999-01-26 Thread Sandra Taylor
Kimberley You say I am free to post info from/about my country on the Ecofem list. So suppose I were to begin sending lenghthy messages to the list about cricket scandals (e.g., bribery of Australian players by Indian bookies, 'throwing' by a Sri Lankan bowlers)? These matters are as exciting

Re: Dismissal of Clinton case debated

1999-01-26 Thread Mtmolle329
I find the current American presidential and congressional debate deplorable, however, there are many issues spinning through this miasma which may be more universally pertinent to ecofeminist thinkers. This list appears to have a very diverse membership and perhaps it is time to make comment

buffalo

1999-01-26 Thread Jake A Paisain
It's an important time for buffalo supporters to take action 5 Buffalo Nations volunteers arrested, new legal defense fund opens Horse Butte bison capture trap to open and start sending buffalo to death any day now! DOL refuses to accept more lenient federal standards for bison

We can't help being influential

1999-01-26 Thread joe dees
I submit that whether Al Gore or Gary Bauer is elected prez of the US in Y2K will matter a great deal to both ecological and civil rights concerns, not only here, but globally. Joe E. Dees Poet, Pagan, Philosopher

Re: Ecofeminist speakers

1999-01-26 Thread Randi Zimmerman (CAS)
Interesting that you should ask about speakers who can discuss both ecofeminism and activism. I was just asked today regarding someone who could come to my campus, University of South Florida on March 31. Let me know if someone from Florida responds, or if anyone else on the list has

human genetic engineering

1999-01-26 Thread a damalas
first, thanks to those who sent me citations on deep ecology. i went to wash u's library, found a couple of them, and read a bit. my next question is on human genetic engineering. i'm looking for text on it which addresses its ethical/moral ramifications, separate from religion. both cites for

Agenda for world healing - no nixing fertility!

1999-01-26 Thread Chris King
I agree with Elizabeth about nixing the fertility bit. Zero population growth needs to start somewhere. Nan No nixing fertility!! The world is in more danger from mass extinction than anything else. Loss of biodiversity is loss of ecosystemic fertility. Loss of fertility is lethal. Fertility

Re: human genetic engineering

1999-01-26 Thread Donna Anderson
Dear Alex, I highly recommend Chris King's web site for genetic technology and so much more: http://matu1.math.auckland.ac.nz/~king/Preprints/book/genesis.htm http://matu1.math.auckland.ac.nz/~king/Preprints/book/genes/genes.htm#anchor136381 Johannes Dingler's PhD research deals with

RE: Dismissal of Clinton case debated

1999-01-26 Thread Devon Pena
Thanks Sandra, I couldn't agree more. The past few weeks have again seemed frustrating for me. Debates about veggies, animals, that drag on and are repeated every time a new person comes in; usually wiithout anything new being said (since it seems people don't bother to check the journal and

Re:Agenda for world healing - no nixing fertility!

1999-01-26 Thread joe dees
At Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:53:03 +1200, you wrote: I agree with Elizabeth about nixing the fertility bit. Zero population growth needs to start somewhere. Nan No nixing fertility!! The world is in more danger from mass extinction than anything else. Loss of biodiversity is loss of

Re: Dismissal of Clinton case debated

1999-01-26 Thread Mtmolle329
I have no problem with posts you might make regarding scandal in your homeland because I am confident you can provide insights from your own cultural perspective without an ecofeminist framework. I for one will certainly be interested in exploring issues that may arise from your postings. The

Re: Agenda for healing the world

1999-01-26 Thread Mtmolle329
Fertility is not always relative to bearing a physical being, but may refer to the continual development of an entity, being, or process such as a relationship. This item may need a little wordsmithing, but I am hardly allergic to the word "fertility" . Check a good thesaurus for synonyms such as

Re: We can't help being influential

1999-01-26 Thread Mtmolle329
Joe: Say more about your concern from an ecofeminist view. What are the possibilities in your view and, most important, how might these change the power dynamics involved--locally, regionally, internationally? Thanks. Mtmolle

Re: Any ecofeminists out there?

1999-01-26 Thread Donna Anderson
Hi Nan, It's good to see you here, I'm delighted that you've stuck with us through the Veggie WWW (World Wide Wrestling) match. Besides potatoes, what other crops are growing in southern Idaho? I'm trying to locate any and all agrifibers, prefer waste from agriculture and other areas of

Re: Dismissal of Clinton case debated

1999-01-26 Thread Kimberly Brett
Sandra, I didn't realize my one post was "lengthy messages"; however, I apologize and will refrain from posting any additional U.S. Impeachment news and/or updates. kimberly -- From: Sandra Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Monsanto patent

1999-01-26 Thread Donna Anderson
Ecofem, I haven't had time to check the source, Bob Mueller. But I know for fact that Monsanto is always developing some new chemical or biogenetic twist that always causes angst given time. This came in from Angela today. /donna --- STOP