Intellectual discipline and rough guesses Re: Prominent scientist who have changed their minds on Global Warming

2007-10-13 Thread Wayne Tyson
One of my useful mottos is The roughest guess THAT GETS THE JOB DONE. That's a heavy condition, but sometime rough guesses can be helpful. They can do until the data savior or perfection comes along. I don't do original research on the anthropogenic influences on climate either, but I remain

Science, ethics, and professionalism Re: Scientists versus activists

2007-10-12 Thread Wayne Tyson
Evidence, evidence, evidence! However, cannot one set aside the distracting tedium and get down to the question of whether or not academic institutions (not to mention individual researchers) are so grant-driven that education and research has suffered to some extent thereby? If so, to what

Knowledge and the value of ignorance Re: Nobel

2007-10-12 Thread Wayne Tyson
An excellent point that bears repeating and repeating and repeating . . . ad infinitum. The most important thing is to know what you don't know. --Margaret Mead The suspension of judgment is the highest exercise in intellectual discipline. --Raymond Gilmore WT At 03:50 PM 10/12/2007, David

Re: Ecosystem and Environmental Services

2007-10-03 Thread Wayne Tyson
There's something troublesome to me about the terms, even though I recognize their utility and inevitability. There's just something disturbing about thinking about Mother Nature (aka the earth ecosystem and all its little ecosystems, as it were) servicing humans. As a practical matter,

Ecology Agricultural Definition

2007-09-27 Thread Wayne Tyson
I'd like as many definitions of the term, agricultural ecology as subscribers care to submit. Thanks, WT

Education formal Electives wasted Re: film clarification

2007-09-27 Thread Wayne Tyson
I hope I'm not duplicating earlier comments, but art, primarily painting, is one of the best windows into past ecosystems. Surviving photography, from the mid-19th century, of course, also is valuable. An excellent reference is The Changing Mile (Hastings and Turner), as are the photographs

Re: Ecology Text suitable for grades 9-12

2007-09-27 Thread Wayne Tyson
A Primer of Ecological Principles Book One by Richard J. Vogl For all grades. WT At 08:52 AM 9/23/2007, Beth Callaghan wrote: Anyone have any recommendations on an ecology text suitable for grades 9-12? thanks. Beth Callaghan Easthampton High School Easthampton, MA

ENERGY Renewable Biofuels Ecological impacts Re: NY Times editorial on biofuels

2007-09-22 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: Please see, patched in below, a 2007 March 31 post by Matthew Warren that popped up when I sorted by subject (it was the only one that did; perhaps that is a fortunate artifact of the fact that so few elect to follow any sort of logical and consistent subject-line discipline

Ecosystem services Mining Reclamation Biofuels Carbon sequestration

2007-09-19 Thread Wayne Tyson
What do most ecologists think about this subject? Valid or sham? WT At 08:35 AM 9/19/2007, Byrd, Shana wrote: The Wilds is Seeking Postdoctoral Colleague for Biofuel Study on Marginal Landscapes =20 A Postdoctoral position is available starting March, 2008 at the Wilds through the

Evolution Earliest life Re: wall chart of history of earth / life

2007-09-04 Thread Wayne Tyson
Thanks Katrina. It looks good, but from the website, I can't exactly tell how simple or complicated it is. What I mean by simple is that it sticks to factors that can be reasonably correlated with each other, such as the increase in atmospheric oxygen around the rise of cyanobacteria, and,

Education Ecology Course requirements Re: courses required for graduate ecology programs

2007-08-18 Thread Wayne Tyson
What if ecology was recognized for the fundamental science that it is, and was taught starting with the nature of life and its interactions in space and time, and that process was allowed to proceed naturally? Would not one find that the relevant principles of physics, chemistry, mathematics,

Listserve Message management Subject line protocol Re: Changing the names of threads

2007-08-16 Thread Wayne Tyson
Good points. I change names of threads so that if I later want to research the topic there is some logic to the subject line thread identifier and I can find it by subject hierarchy rather than trying to remember some title in which the first word of the subject line does not bear a primary

ECOLOGY Conservation Principles and Transformations Re: hunting conservation/was ECOLOGY Conservation Principles and Transformations Re: primate watching

2007-08-14 Thread Wayne Tyson
~~ Online Writing Course Starts Sep 15. Sign Up Now! -Original Message- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 2:43 PM To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: ECOLOGY Conservation Principles

ECOLOGY Conservation Principles and Transformations Re: primate watching

2007-08-13 Thread Wayne Tyson
Bill and Forum: Speaking of weak analogies, primate hunting may not be a sufficiently large sport for the duck-hunter analogy to be of much value, but one of the most insightful ecologists I have ever known, Dick Vogl, used to lecture widely on the value of the Ducks Unlimited approach for

ECOLOGY How to Help the Ecosystem Succeed? Re: Skipping meetings vs. teleconferencing

2007-08-10 Thread Wayne Tyson
Dear Jacquelyn and Forum: (While Jacquelyn's email did stimulate these comments, they are not intended as a critique of her--they are about the phenomena, not the person.) The questioning of elders is a time-honored and essential, indispensable ingredient in the advancement of knowledge, the

ECOSYSTEM EFFECT TRADEOFFS Transportation modes Re: Ecology of Passenger Train Investment Dollars, was: Re: Skipping meetings

2007-08-10 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honourable Forum: Hooray! What ecologists (not to mention other scientists) need is more cross-fertilization of disciplines, especially railroaders (npi) and other industry and commerce people and their special knowledge. I have met some real sensitive-to-ecosystems bulldozer operators. I

ECOLOGY How to Help the Ecosystem Succeed? Re: Skipping meetings

2007-08-06 Thread Wayne Tyson
interaction. Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: ECOLOGY How to Help the Ecosystem Succeed? Re: How to Succeed in Ecology session in San Jose As E. O. Wilson has suggested, we

ECOLOGY How to Help the Ecosystem Succeed? Re: Skipping meetings

2007-08-06 Thread Wayne Tyson
to go before it approximates human interaction. Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: ECOLOGY How to Help the Ecosystem Succeed? Re: How to Succeed in Ecology

ECOLOGY How to Help the Ecosystem Succeed? Re: Skipping meetings vs. teleconferencing

2007-08-06 Thread Wayne Tyson
IGY 2000, World Bank. International. Made some good friends . . . WT At 12:30 PM 8/6/2007, Malcolm McCallum wrote: Anyone ever participated in an online scientific meeting? On Mon, August 6, 2007 8:27 am, Kelly Stettner wrote: I got the impression from Wayne's post that he was not

ECOLOGY How to Help the Ecosystem Succeed? Re: How to Succeed in Ecology session in San Jose

2007-08-05 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: Let us count the ways . . . I'll suggest one, then I hope you all will help expand this project by posting another, then forwarding this question to others, with the objective of posting such a list here on ecolog-l. WT 1. As E. O. Wilson has suggested, we might consider not

Re: ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION Riparian in agronomic context Mats synthetic Re: temp and humidity data loggers

2007-07-26 Thread Wayne Tyson
- From: Wayne Tyson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:56 PM To: Julian Meisler; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION Mats synthetic Re: temp and humidity data loggers Julian: I think your research, as far as it goes, might be useful if (as you say

BIOLOGY Extraterrestrial life Gliese 581c

2007-07-25 Thread Wayne Tyson
Can anyone tell me what form of life would be most tolerant of this planet's atmosphere--and its environmental gradients? Also, what are the environmental requirements/limits of methanotropic bacteria? Thanks, WT http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070502.html

ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION Mats synthetic Re: temp and humidity data loggers

2007-07-23 Thread Wayne Tyson
Julian: I think your research, as far as it goes, might be useful if (as you say) expensive in advancing ecosystem restoration science, and possibly even technology, so if you can get the funding, go for it, especially if it involves making measurements at different depths. A cheaper

Re: ECOLOGY Mathematics and the metamathematics of evasive ecology? Re: Request: Data sets for biocalculus project

2007-07-21 Thread Wayne Tyson
- Original Message - From: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:33 PM Subject: Re: ECOLOGY Mathematics and the metamathematics of evasive ecology? Re: Request: Data sets for biocalculus project Honourable William Silvert and Forum: Uh

EVOLUTION Science or Design link

2007-07-20 Thread Wayne Tyson
http://thesciphishow.com/darwinordesign/?page_id=4 From: A Forum for Discussion of the History of the Philosophy of Science on behalf of Fuller, Steve Sent: Mon 16/07/2007 16:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 'Darwin or Design' interview material available -- Please distribute widely Jason

ECOLOGY sans Homo sapiens

2007-07-20 Thread Wayne Tyson
http://www.worldwithoutus.com/index2.html I'll appreciate comments and reviews. WT

Re: ECOLOGY Mathematics and the metamathematics of evasive ecology? Re: Request: Data sets for biocalculus project

2007-07-20 Thread Wayne Tyson
physicists try to get at the essential characteristics of a system and try to describe even complex systems in simple terms. Not biologists. Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:15 AM Subject: ECOLOGY

ECOLOGY Mathematics and the metamathematics of evasive ecology? Re: Request: Data sets for biocalculus project

2007-07-16 Thread Wayne Tyson
Dear Cheryl Heinz and Forum: The subject subhead is intended to be only a bit humorous. I respect mathematics, but I don't overrate it. What I am waiting for is an equation or a computer program that can stand up to proof and predict--describe the phenomenon in terms of principles--Laws, if

Re: wildlife habitat structures - more clearly stated?

2007-07-13 Thread Wayne Tyson
I responded off-list last time; thanks for the clarification. However, as I think I stated in my response, your assumption may be right in some cases and in others there may be a big payoff. I suspect I would agree that building such structures at great expense just for the hell of it could

ECOLOGY Soil atmosphere/climate

2007-07-11 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: I'm looking for references on soil atmosphere or climate (the distinctions between the two terms is a bit foggy to me). My primary interest at the moment is in condensation of free or capillary (available) water on soil particles as a result of temperature change, i.e., the

Science writing Clarity and accuracy vs sciencespeak Re: English language

2007-07-11 Thread Wayne Tyson
Warren, Shannon, et al: Or We noticed an eagle eating a loon egg, so we need another grant to statistically confirm or refute our speculation that eagle predation on loon eggs is related to overall loon population trends rather than perhaps some less spectacular organism, like, man, like some

Re: ECOLOGY Poisoning Secondary Raptors THANKS TO YOU ALL!

2007-06-27 Thread Wayne Tyson
not pick up your message, as that's how I do my initial compilation of messages. If you don't receive something in, say, ten days (it may take me that long to compile everything properly), send me an email. Thanks again to you all, WT At 08:13 PM 6/25/2007, Wayne Tyson wrote: Dear Werner, Yeah, I

Re: ECOLOGY Poisoning Secondary Raptors

2007-06-25 Thread Wayne Tyson
Dear Werner, Yeah, I should have been more specific, I guess. I also left out to after me and before studies. Sorry for the carelessness. I'll post the essentials of the responses I've received off-list soon. WT At 02:47 PM 6/25/2007, The Shrew Shrine wrote: Dear Wayne, The topic is

Ecology Indigenous and alien species interactions

2007-06-17 Thread Wayne Tyson
I will give one example: Hummingbirds use many alien species, in urban, rural, and natural areas. In Southern California (SC), for example, I have observed their use of the South American tree-tobacco, Nicotiana glauca (NG). This plant is fairly common in disturbed habitats such as

Archival media Pencils pens and pixels Re: Field Notes: Permanence

2007-06-07 Thread Wayne Tyson
One way to look at all this is to consult ancient manuscripts, or at least those a hundred years old or so. Somewhere, perhaps in that most permanent (or transitory?) of records, cyberspace, there must be a study of this that assembles anecdotes into data. In my own experience, including

Re: Good pens and paper to use for field notes

2007-06-06 Thread Wayne Tyson
I agree; I sent a reply off-list, so will only add that I have not yet found a suitable substitute for wood pencils. Soft ones copy pretty good, especially if one prints block letters with a not-too-sharp lead. Sharpening is, of course, a pita, but if one doesn't do it too often, there's a

Science Ecology Research methodology Re: Sampling vegetation for wildlife habitat purposes

2007-06-03 Thread Wayne Tyson
Does this study seem, to this forum, to be an example typical of current research design? I must be missing something, but Dr. Williams' clarifications didn't clear the fog in my head--I am trying and failing to guess, aside from the techniques mentioned, what her specific objectives are (I

Re: SCIENCE Access to information Obstacles Open Source Re: Peer review, another perspective

2007-05-21 Thread Wayne Tyson
of editorial and reviewer prejudices is a great change. I wish that the same freedom could be extended to those still working. Bill Silvert http://bill.silvert.org - Original Message - From: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 11:06 PM

Re: SCIENCE Access to information Obstacles Open Source Re: Peer review, another perspective

2007-05-21 Thread Wayne Tyson
with access to all scientific journals. Sincerely, Tyler Waterson On 5/20/07, Wayne Tyson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Daniel, It was definitely not intended to be rhetorical; I always like to get responses, especially critical ones--how else does one grow? I do question

SCIENCE Access to information Obstacles Open Source Re: Peer review, another perspective

2007-05-21 Thread Wayne Tyson
Dear Shannon Torrence: Thank you for making this point. I have, on occasion, done as you suggest, and you are right that most authors do send a pdf file or hard copy. This permits me to refine my point. Back in the pre-Internet days, I SCANNED numerous journals when I could get them through

SCIENCE Access to information Obstacles Open Source Re: Peer review, another perspective

2007-05-20 Thread Wayne Tyson
: 803.777.3292 Quoting Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is, in my view, laughably ironic, given the hints about the subject matter in the abstract, that reading this paper requires the payment of $30.00 US to Elsiver. Presumably the author profits. What constitutes advertising

Ecology Discipline Communicating Science to the public Re: Metapopulation vs Source - Sink

2007-05-17 Thread Wayne Tyson
How would one explain such concepts and the results of such studies to the public? WT At 02:15 PM 5/17/2007, patfoley wrote: Natalia, You may want to look at Ilkka Hanski's 1998 Book Metapopulation Ecology. In short, the source-sink concept was formulated by Brown and Kodric-Brown to describe

Ecology Measurement and Relevance Vegetation dynamics Regrowth following disturbance Re: On the Bonferroni adustment of correlograms

2007-04-25 Thread Wayne Tyson
All: I don't have enough information about this case/question to relate my question to it, but it reminds me of my white pine delineation days when I surveyed everything from virgin stands with closed canopies to second growth and clear cuts, and a pretty basic issue about which I would like

CITIZENSHIP Conservation politics Organizations Fifth Columns and staff self-interest Re: new essay suggests Sierra Club is getting lost in green consumer ism

2007-04-25 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: Quite. However, many a do-gooder organization has been corrupted by fifth-columns. Once the roots are shorn (not to mention the mycorrhizae) or ignored, the top turns to s**t. Not to say that there aren't good soldiers soldiering away in the hopes of re-attaching them--or

SCIENCE Truth Discipline in writing and speaking Re: Amazon Rainforest facts

2007-04-24 Thread Wayne Tyson
Howdy y'all, Lowe's point, unfortunately, needs emphasis, and his candor is admirable--he will do to cross the river with. In the 21'st Century, not to mention all of history, the essence of science has been the pursuit of truth. It is an oft-sworn-to and endlessly-repeated dictum that all

ENERGY and SCIENCE Ecology Energy cycle Fuel efficiencies Re: Fuel efficient/zero emissions automobiles

2007-04-14 Thread Wayne Tyson
There is much information and analysis in this thread, for which I am grateful. I do hope, however, that disciplined scientific analysis and scholarly discipline will characterize the final summary--and there MUST be one! We are all all too human, but great pitfalls await for those blinded

Intellectual integrity Truth and Fact Re: Overshoot, Homo colossus, detrivore ecosystem, dirty commies, pestilence, nuclear meltdown etc., ad infinitum.

2007-04-10 Thread Wayne Tyson
Whether or not it is written that Watt said God gave us these things to use. After the last tree is felled, Christ will come back, does the statement truly reflect his attitude, actions, and personality? While I respect Silvert's mea culpa, I don't doubt that Watt was capable of such a

Re: Equilibrium/Steady State and Complexity/Evolution

2007-04-03 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: Just the fact that those taking the time to share ideas on this subject are an infinitessimally small sample of the people who do care, not only about human destiny, but about the whole earth ecosystem, is all the reassurance (significance) I need. Well, it's all I'm likely

COMMUNICATION Efficiency Knowledge organization and dissemination Re: From consumerism to biomass

2007-04-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Me too! O' course, it's deja vu all over again when it comes to information overload, duplication, overlap, and waiting for some messiah to gallop up on a white horse with a solid grip on the Holy Grail for all of us. Yeah! I'm wating (?). It's only a start, and a tiny one at that, but is

ECOLOGY Principles Population Homo sapiens and other species Re: Equilibrium/Steady State

2007-04-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Silvert is right about population dynamics, particularly with respect to the relationship of the ratio of numbers of a species and the resource-base carrying capacity effects. He is also right about the paucity of practical solutions. And it is true that populations fluctuate, sometimes

ENERGY Sustainability Biofuels REQUIRED READING FOR EVERY ECOLOGIST? Re: George Monbiot on Biofuels

2007-03-29 Thread Wayne Tyson
Thank you, Cara. Is there anyone on this list who can refute the essential points made in this article? It's a bit long, but worth reading, understanding, and commenting upon with solid science to back them up. WT At 04:27 PM 3/27/2007, Cara Lin Bridgman wrote: Here's the link to a recent

ENERGY Efficiency (my posterior) Re: ethanol competiing directly with world food supply / driving up prices

2007-03-23 Thread Wayne Tyson
No mention of the net energy calculations or references to data--if there are any! Cost data, in particular, should include direct and indirect industry subsidies in addition to the direct and indirect energy cycle effects. I smell fifth columns and a giant sucking sound. One research group

CITIZENSHIP Ecosystem health, politics, and mind, behavior Re: focusing on species' protections rather than habitats, landscapes, etc.

2007-03-23 Thread Wayne Tyson
What troubles me most about focus on species alone is that it relegates the rest of the system as unimportant to the body politic, validating ignorance as an acceptable state of mind with respect to the phenomenon of life and our part in it. On the other hand, if it weren't for the cuddle

SCIENCE MOST IMPORTANT PAPER I HAVE READ IN YEARS Re: use of the word 'evolution' in different disciplines

2007-03-09 Thread Wayne Tyson
This should be REQUIRED READING for every teacher, and certainly every science teacher, not to mention the rest of the world's population, before we slide farther down the slippery slope into pseudointelligence. It should be shot 'round the world immediately. I am sending it to my list of

Energy Crucial Distinctions homeostatic cycle or terminal oscillation?

2007-02-28 Thread Wayne Tyson
The energy horse is far from dead, despite lengthy discussions. It appears to me that there is a team of them, all pulling in different directions, apocalyptically, hence my apoplexy. I will, however, try to control it here. In ecosystems, energy flows, eh? The search for equilibrium never

Re: ecosystem services

2007-02-27 Thread Wayne Tyson
At 07:52 AM 2/24/2007, David Inouye wrote: The Ecological Society has a variety of fact sheets about ecological issues, including ecosystem services: http://esa.org/teaching_learning/factsheets.php ESA has done an excellent job with this, particularly laudable for its brevity. However, I

Plant physiology Root requirements and growth Pipeline protection from tree roots Re: response to pipeline right of way

2007-02-27 Thread Wayne Tyson
EEK! The idea that roots seek water has cropped up again. Please correct me if my impression is wrong and cite studies that demonstrate anything to the contrary. That impression is that roots require a pore space at least as large as the diameter of the root tip, sufficient water (often as

Energy Biofuels Brainstorming then evaluating for policy development Stubbling on marginal issues Re: switchgrass concerns

2007-02-06 Thread Wayne Tyson
At 12:29 AM 2/3/2007, Palmer, Mike wrote: Anyone who has set, managed, or fought fires in switchgrass can attest to this, and fire danger must be considered. However, it is a little bit of a red herring. A hay meadow (with switchgrass as one component) will be mowed late in the season, so there

Intellectual discipline The value of interchange Re: Ecology and Economy and Eco nomics Guns or butter and gas or gastronomy Re: Ethanol (in)efficiency Re: San Diego County

2007-02-05 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Ecolog Forum: I'm attaching some correspondence regarding a comment received regarding my last post. First, it is a good example of how criticism can help hone a finer edge on scholarship (not that there was any particular scholarship involved in my stream-of-consciousness piece,

Energy Future Let's get humorous or at least not deadly serious Re: If not Ethanol, what then?

2007-02-03 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: It may be that the UCS is a flock of=20 yellow-bellied grantsuckers, but on the other=20 hand, they may be trying to steer our ship of=20 fate toward betterment a degree at a time. The=20 Queen Mary ain't exactly a skateboard, and the=20 momentum of exploitation and consumption

Ecology and Economy and Eco nomics Guns or butter and gas or gastronomy Re: Ethanol (in)efficiency

2007-02-03 Thread Wayne Tyson
Most Grand High Fellow Ecologgers: Speaking of Mexico and corn, there's a great pair of photographs in A. Starker Leopold's Wildlife of Mexico: the game birds and mammals (1959) illustrating several feet of soil erosion of a corn field and the resulting apparent loss of yield. (I don't recall

Energy Evaluation of alternatives Hydrogen Re: If not Ethanol, what then?

2007-02-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
How many equal units are required to put one unit of hydrogen to work in the entire range of its applications, including those required for distribution, storage, etc.? WT At 08:43 AM 2/2/2007, Wirt Atmar wrote: Bill asks: In the recent discussion of biofuels, there seems to be a consensus

Energy and survival Re: If not Ethanol, what then?

2007-02-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: Either population reduction or reduction of luxury consumption. Plowing takes energy too. Shifting from consumptive/extractive agriculture to a modification of ecosystems (restored to existing agricultural lands, not by wrecking more ecosystems) that produce sufficient food

ECOLOGY and SOCIETY and CULTURE Re: The ethics of energy

2007-02-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Good stuff, Patrick. Good question. Berry is better than most at spreading the word, and anyone who understands the principles of the energy/nutrient cycle must feel these frustrations, but the challenge is to just keep rockin' despite the hue and cry to stay the course. This listserv is one

Ecology Discussion How things work and don't work Replicated studies Re: observer bias and BACI intervention analysis

2007-01-11 Thread Wayne Tyson
DC and Forum: Please forgive me and correct me if I am misinterpreting the information presented, or merely oversimplifying it. Also, I may be ignorant of essential characteristics, and thus off the beam. Apparently 1, there are measurable differences between the results of the two studies;

Science Evolution Behavior Origin and development Re: specialist juveniles, generalist adults

2006-12-22 Thread Wayne Tyson
All: The thread on specialist juveniles, generalist adults is a fascinating subject itself, and I don't want to throw it off track. But I would like to learn more about the roots of the phenomenon. For starters, can someone illuminate the issue of just how specialization, at any level, is

Re: fuzzy arithmetic

2006-12-18 Thread Wayne Tyson
= sense. David Bird At 02:37 PM 17/12/2006 -0800, Wayne Tyson wrote: May I add (I still don't understand what the=20 distinctions--I don't mean definitions--are=20 between fuzzy math, arithmetic, and logic) yet=20 another naive question? Are interactions over=20 time, biological (ecological

Re: fuzzy arithmetic

2006-12-18 Thread Wayne Tyson
that the dividing line is not sharp -- these are typical fuzzy concepts. Bill Silvert - Original Message - From: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: fuzzy arithmetic It doesn't worry me, but a greater concern

Re: fuzzy arithmetic

2006-12-17 Thread Wayne Tyson
: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:02 AM Subject: Re: fuzzy arithmetic I hope there will be discussion about the distinctions between the terms, fuzzy arithmetic, fuzzy math, and fuzzy logic. WT At 01:41 PM 12/14/2006, William

Re: fuzzy arithmetic

2006-12-15 Thread Wayne Tyson
I hope there will be discussion about the distinctions between the terms, fuzzy arithmetic, fuzzy math, and fuzzy logic. WT At 01:41 PM 12/14/2006, William Silvert wrote: I searched my ECOLOG-L folder and found too many postings with the word fuzzy to repost here. However I should mention that

Education Science Public Perspective Re: NSTA's response to OpEd

2006-12-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
At 06:48 AM 11/30/2006, Kristina Pendergrass wrote: I have NO idea how to change these [public] mindsets. Is the solution to this dilemma part of the mission statement of the NSTA? If not, why not? This Forum could generate a list of reasons how what scientists and educators do or do not do

Science Scientific Uncertainty What does scientific uncertainty mean--exactly?

2006-11-30 Thread Wayne Tyson
Honorable Forum: I am heartened to learn by the number and quality of the responses to the Op-Ed piece questioning NSTA's rejection of the movie, An Inconvenient Truth, for distribution to classrooms. It is apparent that some very high-quality minds do read at least some posts and take the

Science Education Intellectual discipline Questioning or Believing? Re: [SPAM] Re: NSTA's response to OpEd

2006-11-30 Thread Wayne Tyson
Bravo! And there is the idea (perhaps the same as put forth by Robert) that theory means any cockamamie idea that happens to pop into one's head, therefore all theories (or at least the ones one doesn't like) are just cockamamie ideas. This is one of the roots of anti-intellectualism that

Ecology Climate change effects Articles opinion Inconvenient Truth for NSTA 061128 Re: Short URL links

2006-11-28 Thread Wayne Tyson
One of the first lessons I learned in ecology was that if it walks like a duck and flies like an ente and quacks like a canard, and looks like el pato, then it probably IS a duck. Or at least a ducker of the truth (in the case of anthropoid quacks). The finer points, such as teeth or the lack

Ecosystem Restoration Nutrients and Water Re: How much fertilizer to give seedlings of wild trees? - and how much irrigation?

2006-11-09 Thread Wayne Tyson
Jonathan: I must confess that I didn't notice the original post, and wrongly jumped to the conclusion that you were doing ecosystem restoration. I agree with Marsh about the native soil; however, for a fairly sterile growing medium my favorite remains /R/ Vermiculite, although it can have

Re: color pattern matching software

2006-11-08 Thread Wayne Tyson
You might look at http://www.dstretch.com/ . I haven't used it, but heard a paper recently where it was used for rock art. WT If you find others, please share. Thanks. At 04:42 AM 10/22/2006, Leon Blaustein wrote: Hi, We have been conducting mark-recapture studies on fire salamanders where

Fwd: Re: Ecology as a General Education requirement

2006-11-05 Thread Wayne Tyson
cites. The doctrinaire will, as it has always been, ironically within academic institutions. WT Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:01:43 -0800 To: Baker, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ecology as a General Education requirement I agree with you on both counts

Ecology Most Important issues Survey

2006-11-05 Thread Wayne Tyson
Dear Ecolog Forum Subscribers: Would each of you please send me your answers to the following? I will compile them as soon as the responses slow to a trickle and post a summary of the results. In addition, I will post revisions as necessary when additional answers are received, so that the

Re: information on ESA litigation

2006-07-26 Thread Wayne Tyson
No, but when you find it I hope you'll share it. WT At 08:06 PM 7/26/2006, Fleming, Kathleen K. wrote: Hello, I'm looking for information on the proportion of Endangered Species Act litigation that is brought by environmental or conservation groups (e.g., entities attempting to protect

EVOLUTION Higher concept Re: Maldaptation, Extinction and Natural selection

2006-07-19 Thread Wayne Tyson
At 02:19 PM 7/18/2006, Wirt Atmar wrote: In Darwin's alternate universe of death and famine, we unfortunately have a simple, easy-to-understand mechanism, one that does eventually builds the most exalted objects which we are capable of conceiving, the production of the HIGHER [capitals mine,

Evolution Environment Adaptation Re: Maldaptation, Extinction and Natural selection

2006-07-18 Thread Wayne Tyson
Kim: Excuse my ignorance, but what's the contradiction? WT At 09:36 PM 7/8/2006, Kim van der Linde wrote: Hi all, I am having an interesing discussion at the moment about Natural selection. The context is a single population of individuals that, due to changes in the environment, are now

Re: Tick talk

2006-07-08 Thread Wayne Tyson
More dogs? WT At 06:04 AM 7/8/2006, eann wrote: To be sure, there are deer ticks here in abundance (always have been) but they're not often picked up since they're more active in late fall than spring and summer. Fortunately, according to the NH State Dept of Health Human Services, Lyme is

Climate Change Homeostasis Action or Inaction?

2006-06-29 Thread Wayne Tyson
Hon. Forum: It seems there are only two choices--trust that the earth's climatic fluctuations will stabilize between limits that retain a favorable habitat for humans or act to reduce atmospheric pollution, including CO2, according to the precautionary principle. But how to make those

Email list practice Evolution and self administration [Those not interested in the subject, please delete now with my apologies] Re Behavior animal or Ethology information sources film and v

2006-06-23 Thread Wayne Tyson
, Wayne Tyson wrote: Do others have alternative suggestions? yes. When asking for information that is likely to be of interest to some, but not all, list members, the person asking can take replies off-list, and then post a summary back to the list once the initial flurry of responses ends. It's

Behavior animal or Ethology information sources film and video free Re: source for downloads of animal behavior video footage?

2006-06-22 Thread Wayne Tyson
I, for one, would also like the information. With respect to bother the list, may I suggest that subject lines consist of a logical sequence so that those not interested in the subject at all can quickly recognize it and delete or read more quickly? I have inserted an example, whilst keeping

Re: Conservation in Agricultural Landscapes and NCEAS proposal

2006-06-17 Thread Wayne Tyson
Message- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wayne Tyson Sent: Friday, 16 June, 2006 14:51 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: Conservation in Agricultural Landscapes and NCEAS proposal Please see my [[comments]] within your text below

Plant geography research design predictive value Re: Climate variables and time

2006-06-07 Thread Wayne Tyson
Yes, a fascinating question. Here are just some stream-of-consciousness reactions for what they may be worth . . . probably not much. Has this ever been done? Is what has been done reliable? I hope so, but confess that I share the fear that teasing out consequences from any manageable data

Life origin Re: Lecture of the Week: Part III: Astrobiology

2006-06-07 Thread Wayne Tyson
Wirt et al: With or without telescopes, is there any more=20 basis for the evolution of life in the universe=20 (and perhaps beyond), on earth or anywhere=20 else, than a postulation that it has existed for=20 eternity (whatever that is)? If so, what is it,=20 and how is the basis superior? WT

Fwd: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Sustainability Definition

2006-06-06 Thread Wayne Tyson
At Leah's request, I am forwarding this to the list. WT Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:28:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Leah Gibbons and Brandon Yarborough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wayne Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Sustainability Definition X-Sensitivity: Normal X-NAS-Classification: 0 X-NAS

Sustainability Definition

2006-06-05 Thread Wayne Tyson
Am I the only one who worries that sustainability has more than one meaning ranging from the useful, even critical, to a deceptive buzzword? WT

STANDARDS Listserv Journalism All correspondence that makes claims Re: ECOLOG-L Digest - 25 May 2006 to 26 May 2006 (#2006-140)

2006-05-30 Thread Wayne Tyson
Cousins' is the VERY BEST example I have ever seen of the kind of standard I would like to see become more common. 1. A direct, non-evasive, specific, responsive answer to a question. (Redundancy shouldn't be excessive, but irony can sometimes lighten things up a bit.) 2. References that

Environmentalist definition? Re: env science programs

2006-05-21 Thread Wayne Tyson
I very sincerely would like to know just what an environmentalist is, apart from its common use as a kind of slang by the media and the general public. All I know is rather dated, but in the 1970's, for example, environmental science had a reputation for being more generalist than scientific.

Education Certification Science Image and Substance Re: what is in a name?

2006-05-12 Thread Wayne Tyson
The weltschmerz I feel for (the study of, to be=20 regrettably but of necessity, redundant) ecology=20 and science or any sort of intellectual integrity=20 in general is debilitating. I yearn for growing=20 evidence that teachers need not be diverted from=20 the essential task of awakening and

Plants Alien Invasive Brassica tournefortii

2006-05-10 Thread Wayne Tyson
Can anyone tell me the mechanism(s) that seem to make this plant prefer areas with windblown soil? Thank you, WT

Biology of colonization or recolonization or invasion Re: Fw: [ECOLOG-L] Introduced Sp. Question

2006-05-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Opportunism and (artificial?) niche-filling? Resilience? Ripple-response to perturbations? Adaptation? Too many feral and loose domestic cats? Depression of other predator populations? Habitat change? Increased study? Not enough study? WT What about mourning dove

Ecosystem boundaries Re: Introduced Sp. Question

2006-05-02 Thread Wayne Tyson
Excellent question! Further, what are the boundaries of the ecosystem? What are the standards (is the standard) by which said boundary is defined? WT Thanks to those who focus on the essentials. At 07:08 AM 5/2/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe there is a scientific answer to

Re: Green campuses - Friedman in NYT

2006-04-22 Thread Wayne Tyson
Perhaps it's an old-fashioned concept, but once upon a time it was professors who set the example for the kids. WT At 01:09 PM 4/21/2006, Jeffrey D. Corbin wrote: Today's column by the New York Times' Thomas Friedman=20 (http://select.nytimes.com/2006/04/21/opinion/21friedman.html?hp)=20

Ecosystem research field techniques and equipment Re: automoated rain gauges

2006-04-13 Thread Wayne Tyson
I don't remember the specific references, but back in the 1930's (perhaps before) researchers who had extremely thin budgets made most of their own equipment, including rain gauges. I suspect, however, that such references might be a bit difficult to find on the Internet. With respect to

Ecosystem effects Cattle Re: Digest on cattle feeding behaviour

2006-04-12 Thread Wayne Tyson
Since it appears not to have been mentioned=20 (unless I missed it), the corollary effects of=20 cattle on ecosystems should be a part of any=20 study. Trampling, for example, can have=20 significant effects, more so than grazing in some=20 systems, and feces distribute plant propagules=20 and

Education Student Control Learning or opinionating? Re: Rewarding Teaching (was Re: Biology of Invasion)

2006-04-12 Thread Wayne Tyson
enough. Jane Shevtsov At 12:55 PM 4/8/2006, Wayne Tyson wrote: A more-or-less major state university in the west (US) recently turned down the clearly best-qualified candidate (Harvard PhD, great teacher, big grant-raiser, well-deserved reputation in her field) for an assistant professorship

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