Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-06-14 Thread kirby urner
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:53 AM, David MacQuigg macqu...@ece.arizona.edu wrote: kirby urner wrote: I've been hyping digital mathematics as a kind of niche marketing term, as distinct from discrete but is this wise? Per math-thinking-l (another list), I'd say I'm in the distinct minority in

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-02-01 Thread David MacQuigg
kirby urner wrote: More to the point is wanting to render pre-existing well-established mathematics in a more accessible, hands-on, and intelligible format, without losing any backward compatibility. List comprehensions *illuminate* ideas about functions, do not detract from them. Creating a

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-31 Thread michel paul
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:32 PM, David MacQuigg macqu...@ece.arizona.eduwrote: I'm not familiar with Sage, but I wonder if adding a few packages to pure Python would do the same. Well, it would have to be WAY more than a 'few' packages! : ) Sage is immense. It even has the statistical

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-31 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:32 PM, David MacQuigg macqu...@ece.arizona.edu wrote: michel paul wrote: Recently I've found Sage http://sagemath.org invaluable for the purpose of getting computational thinking into the math curriculum.  I've spent the last year figuring out how to harness Sage in

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-30 Thread David MacQuigg
michel paul wrote: Recently I've found Sage http://sagemath.org invaluable for the purpose of getting computational thinking into the math curriculum. I've spent the last year figuring out how to harness Sage in class, and it is paying off. The difficulty with a pure Python approach has

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-29 Thread David MacQuigg
kirby urner wrote: Unfortunately, our grand plans have been stalled for lack of a volunteer web programmer who can finish the hardest part of the job - the last 10%. We are considering applying for a grant, so we can hire a professional. I wish I had more time. Google App Engine, Django,

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-29 Thread kirby urner
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:49 AM, David MacQuigg macqu...@ece.arizona.edu wrote: When I hear Object Oriented Programming, I think of something much more difficult than the examples you have shown, something that might even get into the intricacies of MRO, something that is normally taught

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-29 Thread michel paul
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: There's a unifying heuristic not out of line with inherited mathematics i.e. we already believe in types e.g. N, Z, Q, R, C (natural, integer, rational, real, complex..) and so on, so pretty seamless. Actually,

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-29 Thread kirby urner
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:40 PM, michel paul mpaul...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP A truly excellent write-up Michel. I'm glad you're reminding us about Sage. Your use of Computational Thinking (CT) mirrors Maria's suggestion for what a course of this nature might be called. Computational Analysis

[Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-27 Thread kirby urner
From: kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long) To: edu-sig@python.org On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:53 AM, David MacQuigg macqu...@ece.arizona.edu wrote: kirby urner wrote: I've been hyping digital

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-26 Thread David MacQuigg
kirby urner wrote: I've been hyping digital mathematics as a kind of niche marketing term, as distinct from discrete but is this wise? Per math-thinking-l (another list), I'd say I'm in the distinct minority in thinking digital math is a good term. It's unexplored, not conservative,

Re: [Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-26 Thread kirby urner
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:20 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote: In sum, I think the best way to teach OO is not make it *not* a strictly computer science topic, but just a science topic more generally. Messed that one up eh? Make it *not* a strictly computer science topic... So

[Edu-sig] Math + Python: reviewing some themes (long)

2010-01-24 Thread kirby urner
Greetings edu-sig folks: I've got a somewhat long one here. I encourage any responders not to quote the whole thing, just go for the gusto and quote the one thing you wanna do a thread on? I welcome changes to the subject line. One of my bad habits is to introduce new topics in response to a