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Thanks Wes and Dominik! Lets study now! 2018-02-22 12:49 GMT-03:00 Wes Turner : > https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education > > - https://www.codesters.com/curriculum/intro-to-codesters/Bu > ilding+your+First+Program/1/ > -

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Python Evangelist and teaching Python at CS0 in Brazil here o/ My contacts: https://about.me/fmasanori I write my experiences in a blog post(portuguese): https://medium.com/@fmasanori/hoje-sou-um-professor-feliz-python-no-ensino-de-programa%C3%A7%C3%A3o-26a92ba73dfb Em qui, 22 de fev de 2018 às

Re: [Edu-sig] Python for kids

> If you were to run such a club, and were to make the resources you use > freely available, perhaps you should ask the Python Software Foundation > (http://python.org/psf) for a grant to help cover any costs you may incur. Please do not forget that “freely available” includes using tools (e.g.

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Hi Otavio, See my answers below..! :-) N. On 21/02/18 18:46, Otavio Silva wrote: > Dear All, > I am starting a group of Fathers and Mothers who want to teach their > kids code, we decided to start wit python. None of us is a professional > in coding, so we think we will need a lot of help... >

[Edu-sig] Python for kids

https://github.com/quobit/awesome-python-in-education - https://www.codesters.com/curriculum/intro-to-codesters/Bu ilding+your+First+Program/1/ - http://rosalind.info/problems/list-view/ https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/python3/ https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/pt-br/python-pt/

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Hi, > 1- Could anyone suggest some literature that we (the fathers) could begin > with? “Hello, World!” by Warren and Carter Sande (a father and his son) is a very good book for both parents and children. Why not join a local CoderDojo (or create one)? -nik signature.asc Description: PGP

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Dear All, I am starting a group of Fathers and Mothers who want to teach their kids code, we decided to start wit python. None of us is a professional in coding, so we think we will need a lot of help... I have two question for the begining: 1- Could anyone suggest some literature that we (the

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Hi all Don't know if anyone on this list has been watching my feed, but I've made a bunch of updates to Snake Wrangling For Kids (partly caused by converting it to LaTeX). Anyway, the latest version fixes a bunch of problems I've noticed (such as referring to functions before explaining what

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Here is how I would explain Python variables to kids: ''' In Python, naming variables is like sticking labels on objects. Unlike other languages, the labels have no type. When we say x is an integer, that's just a shortcut for saying x is a name that currently refers to or identifies an

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MacQuigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: edu-sig@python.org Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:48:50 AM Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] python for kids... -edit A precise explanation of Python variables is in Chapter 4 of Martelli's Python in a Nutshell. He uses the word

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In a message of Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:09:47 EST, Jay Bloodworth writes: On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 19:04 -0600, Michael Tobis wrote: I agree that the concept of a variable is deeply unpythonic in most c ontexts. But it's pretty darn programmatic. I think overemphasizing python idiom and ontology in

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Thanks Laura (and everyone else who posted comments). All useful info. I think I've got enough to go on for the next release I make of the book. J Laura Creighton wrote: In a message of Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:09:47 EST, Jay Bloodworth writes: On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 19:04 -0600, Michael Tobis

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Hi All I'm seeking some advice, about a change I'm thinking about making to Chapter 2 of my book. I've received a bit of criticism lately about my decision to stick with the simple concept of a variable as a box to put things in, rather than explaining the difference in Python (that a

Re: [Edu-sig] python for kids... (version 0.4)

Hi Jason, Thanks for the nice book. It is really very well written and quite usefull for novice programmers. Just one remark concerning your statement about Python for Mac OS X. I use MacPython 2.5.1 (http://www.python.org/download/releases/) on my Mac and there is no problem whatsoever

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Might be your version of OS X. On my wife's iBook (10.3) it definitely didn't work without additional effort. Ernesto Costa wrote: Hi Jason, Thanks for the nice book. It is really very well written and quite usefull for novice programmers. Just one remark concerning your statement

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The Mac/Python folks recommend treating the Python that comes pre-installed as part of the built-in operating system--don't remove it because things will break, but don't rely on it for your own code. There are several reasons for this: it's an older version of Python, it shipped with known bugs,

[Edu-sig] python for kids... (version 0.4)

Hi All I've just updated the site with the latest version of SWFK (see here for more info: http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/2007/10/28/version-04/) This adds a ToC, fixes some of the references that weren't valid for Python2.4, adds while-loops and, as previously discussed, moves some of the

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Phiilip Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:40:33 +1300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: edu-sig@python.org Subject: [Edu-sig] python for kids... Hi All I'm hoping to get some feedback (flameback?) for a book I've been working on (on and off for the last year or so), endeavouring to teach Python

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Hi Ajith I think the difference is probably Python 2.4 to Python 2.5 (which I was using). Pen() also works on Py2.5, so I think I'd better change to that. Will also add while-loops as well. Good idea. Thanks, J Ajith Kumar wrote: Hello, Thanks Jason. Excellent material. I was looking

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Yes, we (several of us on this list who use the turtle module in teaching) actually got several changes/enhancements to the turtle module added for Python 2.5. Earlier versions have a turtle module that is somewhat harder to work with, in my admittedly biased opinion. ;-) Cheers, Vern Ceder

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My preliminary assessment is that its good. I'm going to try using it for one of my Year 9 classes now (they've just started programming Python) and I'm skipping straight to the chapter on turtle. My initial comment is that turtle needs to come *even* earlier than you've edited it to be. My

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Hi all (again) In response to the various suggestions to move the chapter on graphics forward, I've split the turtle chapter in half and moved the first part forward to Chapter 5. Not as early as perhaps it should be, but it's difficult to justify it appearing earlier in the book

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Thanks Jason. I'm starting a new Python gig at a local high school soon. If you'd like an opportunity for feedback from real students in Portland, Oregon, I'd be happy to shoot them a declassified copy. What's in it for them: a new way to learn Python while thinking critically about what's

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On 10/15/07, kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jason. I'm starting a new Python gig at a local high school soon. If you'd like an opportunity for feedback from real students in Portland, Oregon, I'd be happy to shoot them a declassified copy. What's in it for them: a new way

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hi kirby Any feedback is useful. As long as they're aware up front that it's written for a younger audience, then I'm happy. Thanks very much, J kirby urner wrote: On 10/15/07, kirby urner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jason. I'm starting a new Python gig at a local high school

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Dethe- For a lightweight graphics library on top of Pygame, you should look at moonunit which comes with my MakeBot program http://stratolab.com/misc/makebot Alternatively you can look at the subversion source code: http://svn.stratotools.python-hosting.com/trunk/moonunit/

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Very engaging book, Jason! I agree that earlier Turtles would be nice. I also like the idea of using Idle, but your agnostic approach is certainly a choice. I would encourage saving program files earlier. particularly if they make neat Turtle designs, it would be nice to save the code! Idle

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Hi Bryan I don't think I'm particularly watering things down. Rather taking it slow and going with the basics. The original idea came from David Brin's Salon article last year, which decried a lack of ability in finding a workable version of Basic to teach his son, and argued against

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I did (briefly) consider pyglet and a few other libraries, but in the end decided to avoid as much 3rd party stuff as possible. My hope was/is that non-(or not very)-technical parents will be able to get their kids started with as few downloads as possible. I know what you mean about moving

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Hi Bryan, I'm not trying to water down Python too much, but I want them to have a great experience right out of the box. They have both been programming in Scratch (http://scratch.mit.edu/) now, so their expectations are that they can get up and running with some graphics moving around and doing

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PS: and speaking of cover art, let's not forget a snake wrangler might well be a XX (vs an XY) Nice point, Kirby. Jason: Just tonight about 12 of my students in my high school computer programming club (more than half of them are girls, with minorities being highly represented*)

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Awesome. If they come back with comments, make sure you include names and so on. Cause I'll add a Thanks to somewhere at the beginning and start a list... J Richard Guenther wrote: PS: and speaking of cover art, let's not forget a snake wrangler might well be a XX (vs an XY)

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We're using 'web wrangler' instead of 'web master' around here some too. PS: and speaking of cover art, let's not forget a snake wrangler might well be a XX (vs an XY): http://mybizmo.blogspot.com/2005/08/web-wrangler.html (sometimes boys still think CS is their exclusive domain -- we

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On Oct 10, 2007 3:35 PM, Andre Roberge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very much a first reaction after glancing through your book. I find that, for a first draft done on your own, it looks very professional. I like the simple use of colors (green code and red visible spaces), and the

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On 10/10/07, Dethe Elza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jason, Good timing. My kids have pushed Scratch about as far as they can go, and have been pushing me to teach them Python. I'm working on a Scratch-like environment to get them started, but I'll print out your draft and test it out on