Re: [Edu-sig] Programming in High School

2008-12-08 Thread kirby urner
I think you're spot on about the advantage over the poor thing, as our stronger public schools have a parent base that will fund and support Linux labs, whereas where my daughter goes, they can't afford enough chairs for the cafeteria, everyone has to spill out into Burgerville and Wendy's for

Re: [Edu-sig] Programming in High School

2008-12-08 Thread David MacQuigg
At 08:22 AM 12/8/2008 -0800, kirby urner wrote: I think you're spot on about the advantage over the poor thing, as our stronger public schools have a parent base that will fund and support Linux labs, I've also heard the argument that most kids will never be programmers ... missing the point

Re: [Edu-sig] Programming in High School

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Libucha
David, Here's my small nugget of experience: My son goes to a prep school in southern CA, and when we met with his adviser at the end of 8th grade last spring to plan out his high school curriculum, I was floored to learn that there were no computer science classes offered at all anymore. Here's

Re: [Edu-sig] Programming in High School

2008-12-08 Thread kirby urner
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:26 AM, David MacQuigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:22 AM 12/8/2008 -0800, kirby urner wrote: I think you're spot on about the advantage over the poor thing, as our stronger public schools have a parent base that will fund and support Linux labs, I've also heard

Re: [Edu-sig] Programming in High School

2008-12-08 Thread Vern Ceder
David MacQuigg wrote: Kirby, This is very well written appeal, but in this mailing list, you may be preaching to the choir. What I would like to see is a discussion of *why* there is not more teaching of programming in high school. I can't seem to get an answer from the few high-school

Re: [Edu-sig] Programming in High School

2008-12-08 Thread michel paul
David: What I would like to see is a discussion of *why* there is not more teaching of programming in high school. Especially given that 'integrating technology into the curriculum' is given such lip service. Most people equate technology with tool use. They seldom equate it with language

Re: [Edu-sig] Programming in High School

2008-12-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:10 PM, David MacQuigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:30 PM 12/8/2008 -0800, michel paul wrote: David: What I would like to see is a discussion of *why* there is not more teaching of programming in high school. I think part of the problem in the past has been the

Re: [Edu-sig] Programming in High School

2008-12-08 Thread Andy Judkis
Well, I'm a high school teacher, and today we started to learn about programming in my 10th grade Principles of Computer Technology class. I tell them that we do it because it's a good intellectual skill to develop, it builds their problem solving and critical thinking abilities, it's fun,