On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:13 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote:
Since say 5000 years humans have devoloped the concepts of numbers,
calculations and
algebra. They have discovered, that calculations obey certain algebraic laws
like
a*(b+c) = a*b + a*c and the like. Finally they have
On Sep 28, 2009, at 16:30 , Gregor Lingl wrote:
Brian Blais schrieb:
However, as I think
about it, I can not think of a single problem where I *needed* the
graphic calculator, or where it gave me more insight than I could do
by hand.
I think I have a counterexample.
Run the script, that
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote:
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Yes, these have been interesting discoveries and remain highly
relevant in the workaday world. The idea of closure makes perfect
sense in this world of types (Python is a typed language). Is a * b
always going
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Brian Blais bbl...@bryant.edu wrote:
On Sep 28, 2009, at 16:30 , Gregor Lingl wrote:
Brian Blais schrieb:
However, as I think
about it, I can not think of a single problem where I *needed* the
graphic calculator, or where it gave me more insight than I
kirby urner schrieb:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Gregor Lingl gregor.li...@aon.at wrote:
...
That's fine (for the turtle). But if someone thinks that everything is
calculated
correctly now, she/he is bound
kirby urner schrieb:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Gregor Lingl gregor.li...@aon.at wrote:
Strategy of escalation? Arms race?
Not so much. There's nothing on the other side. Will anyone do this
manually? Is that what correctly means? More likely they mean
something like
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Gregor Lingl gregor.li...@aon.at wrote:
The ability to brute force these data points with a self-feedback
circuit governed by various expressions, is for computers and
computers only. Humans by themselves aren't even in the game. At the
very least you'll
2009/9/27 kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com:
This isn't the kind of critique most people have in mind when they
start questioning the hegemony of the graphing calculator empire.
Definitely not, but what a great perspective, pun intended.
- Michel
2009/9/27 Charles Cossé cco...@gmail.com:
On Sep 27, 2009, at 19:38 , Charles Cossé wrote:
Hi, this has probably been discussed to death already, but maybe
not: The point at which fancy graphing calculators become
necessary (ie as in one's student career) is the point at which
the calculator should be abandoned and Python
Brian Blais wrote:
On Sep 27, 2009, at 19:38 , Charles Cossé wrote:
Her kids should do the
exercises by hand, on graph paper instead. Anything that is hard enough
for you to use a graphic calculator can be done much more easily with a
computer.
Agreed,
After giving her this advice
2009/9/28 Brian Blais bbl...@bryant.edu:
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Just a month ago, a friend of mine who homeschools her children was asking
me about graphing calculators. Apparently the math curriculum she uses has
a number of graphic calculator exercises. My advice was to buy a nice
solar-powered
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Well, the curricula have been customized to fit what the calculator
can do, with encouragement towards the more upscale models that do
some graphing and CAS (fractor equations, solve integrals...). A lot
of what passes for math in this day and age is just a glorified
calculator, your
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Gregor Lingl gregor.li...@aon.at wrote:
kirby urner schrieb:
Hi Brian,
This ran perfectly on Python 3.1rc1 (r31rc1:73069, May 31 2009,
08:57:10) on my WinXP box (one of a few).
Note: if this level of chaos / noise bothers you (the functions are
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:03 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Gregor Lingl gregor.li...@aon.at wrote:
kirby urner schrieb:
Hi Brian,
This ran perfectly on Python 3.1rc1 (r31rc1:73069, May 31 2009,
08:57:10) on my WinXP box (one of a
Yup, similar experience here. And graphing calculators have now been
promoted to the point where their importance is probably no longer
questioned ... which is too bad ...
There are many ways to graph python-generated computer data. I have dabbled
with many, but for various reasons I continue
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:49 PM, kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/9/28 Brian Blais bbl...@bryant.edu:
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Just a month ago, a friend of mine who homeschools her children was asking
me about graphing calculators. Apparently the math curriculum she uses has
a number of
2009/9/27 Charles Cossé cco...@gmail.com:
Hi, this has probably been discussed to death already, but maybe not: The
point at which fancy graphing calculators become necessary (ie as in one's
student career) is the point at which the calculator should be abandoned and
Python employed. Just a
2009/9/27 Charles Cossé cco...@gmail.com:
Hi, this has probably been discussed to death already, but maybe not: The
point at which fancy graphing calculators become necessary (ie as in one's
student career) is the point at which the calculator should be abandoned and
Python employed. Just a
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