Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-19 Thread Jordan Erickson
Luis Montes wrote: Here's what's in the default lts.conf file: # This is the default lts.conf file for ltsp 5. # For more information about valid options please see: # /usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz # in the client environment That doc doesn't exist. Luis

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess? -- A new user intro

2008-09-11 Thread Bud Roth
Jordon: Well put. I'd like to contribute. I'm a lawyer by trade, but have been hacking around with computers since IBM sold the first PC. I've got decent PHP/HTML skills and rusty C programming skills. I've been using various Linux distros and FreeBSD since 1994. I write well and could

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-11 Thread Todd O'Bryan
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, On Mi, 2008-09-10 at 09:37 -0700, Jordan Mantha wrote: The reality is that there has only ever been 1 person paid to work on Edubuntu/LTSP, and in fact that person has been moved to another project for his paid

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread David Van Assche
I've taken a look into the email in question, and can answer some questions. I in no way am affiliated with canonical, though I do work within the ed/ubuntu community. Firstly, Scott mentions not using 8.04, clearly you should upgrade as that will solve 50% of your issues... the other issues are

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread Dean Mumby
David Van Assche wrote: I've taken a look into the email in question, and can answer some questions. I in no way am affiliated with canonical, though I do work within the ed/ubuntu community. Firstly, Scott mentions not using 8.04, clearly you should upgrade as that will solve 50% of your

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread David Van Assche
How do u know it is not working? can u paste some data? David Van Assche On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Todd O'Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:05 AM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've taken a look into the email in question, and can answer some

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread Todd O'Bryan
Because when students log back in after a freeze, their desktop appears without the top and bottom panels and they can't do anything until I slay them. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:03 AM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: How do u know it is not working? can u paste some data? David Van

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread Gavin McCullagh
Hi, On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Todd O'Bryan wrote: Because when students log back in after a freeze, their desktop appears without the top and bottom panels and they can't do anything until I slay them. Could you give us the output of ps aux |grep username for that username before you

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread monteslu
David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've taken a look into the email in question, and can answer some questions. I in no way am affiliated with canonical, though I do work within the ed/ubuntu community. Firstly, Scott mentions not using 8.04, clearly you should upgrade as that

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:05 PM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I've taken a look into the email in question, and can answer some questions. I in no way am affiliated with canonical, though I do work within the ed/ubuntu community. Firstly, Scott mentions not using 8.04, clearly you

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread David Van Assche
Rather than make this heated, lets try and keep it productive so the thread becomes helpful rather than offensive. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:58 PM, R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:05 PM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've taken a look into the

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Jordan Mantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --8-snip--- I get the impression at times that people think there are a myriad of people paid to work on these issues. The reality is that there has only ever been 1 person paid to work on Edubuntu/LTSP, and

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-10 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:14 AM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Rather than make this heated, lets try and keep it productive so the thread becomes helpful rather than offensive. Thanks, David. I appreciate the depth and extent of your commitment to FOSS. It was not my intent to

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Dean Mumby
Can you put more ram in ? I have had the same experiences. Alternatively go back to 7.04 , I have the watchdog app running but it is no solution. Dean Todd O'Bryan wrote: OK, first let me say that I'm using the LTSP package on Ubuntu Hardy, not an Edubuntu install, so if that's the source

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread kjetil knudsen
We have also the exact same experience. We are a big school with over 400 clients and 9 servers that run Ubuntu Hardy. It all worked superb with the K12LTSP package with Fedora. Now everything is a mess, and we are considering switching back to K12LTSP. The observation I have done indicate that

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
kjetil knudsen kirjoitti: We have also the exact same experience. We are a big school with over 400 clients and 9 servers that run Ubuntu Hardy. [8] I really like Ubuntu, but we have to have a system that really works and that you can trust beeing used by hundreds of pupils. K12LTSP did

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: kjetil knudsen kirjoitti: We have also the exact same experience. We are a big school with over 400 clients and 9 servers that run Ubuntu Hardy. [8] I really like Ubuntu, but we have to have a system that really works and that you can trust beeing used by

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Daniel Hunt
Sorry to sidestep the thread here, but what thin clients do you use? On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Asmo Koskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: kjetil knudsen kirjoitti: We have also the exact same experience. We are a big school with over 400 clients and 9 servers that run Ubuntu Hardy. [8] I

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread kjetil knudsen
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Asmo Koskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: kjetil knudsen kirjoitti: We have also the exact same experience. We are a big school with over 400 clients and 9 servers that run Ubuntu Hardy. [8] I really like Ubuntu, but we have to have a system that really works

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Daniel Hunt kirjoitti: Sorry to sidestep the thread here, but what thin clients do you use? On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Asmo Koskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 servers, both have 2 x Dual Core Xeon and 6G memory. LAN is fast. We have 113 thin clients, HP t5125/5135. HP t5125, 5135.

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Richard Doyle kirjoitti: Are you using LDM_DIRECTX=yes ? Yes, here are my lts.conf files for master and slave servers. http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5-Mantykangas/ltsp-master/lts.conf http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5-Mantykangas/ltsp-slave/lts.conf They are same ;-). I have also

[FWD: RE: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?]

2008-09-09 Thread rmcdaniel
Original Message Subject: RE: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, September 09, 2008 2:07 pm To: R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott, I can assure you that new thin clients have problems too... I have unsuccessfully tried setting up 3

Re: [FWD: RE: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?]

2008-09-09 Thread Gerald Drouillard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: RE: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, September 09, 2008 2:07 pm To: R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott, I can assure you that new thin clients have problems too... I have

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread David Van Assche
Asmo is certainly not the only person. I know of at least 10 live deployments that have no problems with ubuntu/edubuntu. I'm running pentium 2 500mhz with 128 mb ram as the majority of my thin clients (must be a good 8-10 years old) and they run like clockwork... the problems almost always have

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread R. Scott Belford
Asmo is certainly not the only person. I know of at least 10 live deployments that have no problems with ubuntu/edubuntu. I'm running pentium 2 500mhz with 128 mb ram as the majority of my thin clients (must be a good 8-10 years old) and they run like clockwork... the problems almost always

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread monteslu
David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asmo is certainly not the only person. I know of at least 10 live deployments that have no problems with ubuntu/edubuntu. I'm running pentium 2 500mhz with 128 mb ram as the majority of my thin clients (must be a good 8-10 years old) and they

Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

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