Re: Ogg theora to dv

2007-05-24 Thread Asmo Koskinen
: Video: dvvideo, yuv420p, 720x576, q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 
25.00 fps(c)
   Stream #0.1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, 1536 kb/s
Stream mapping:
   Stream #0.0 - #0.0
   Stream #0.1 - #0.1
[theora @ 0xb7dd9f08]Theora bitstream version 30200
[theora @ 0xb7dd9f08]968 bits left in packet 81
[theora @ 0xb7dd9f08]7 bits left in packet 82
Press [q] to stop encoding
[dvvideo @ 0xb7dd9f08]Can't process DV frame #6284. Insufficient audio 
data or severe sync problem.
frame= 6286 q=0.0 Lsize=  883688kB time=251.4 bitrate=28795.8kbits/s
video:883969kB audio:47137kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead -5.092662%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pikiruukki_Final$

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pikiruukki_Final$ file Pikiruukki_01.ogg2dv
Pikiruukki_01.ogg2dv: DIF (DV) movie file (PAL)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Pikiruukki_Final$

Cinelerra seems to work with these dv-files.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache showpkg cinelerra
Package: cinelerra
Versions:
1:2.1.0-2svn2007424ubuntu3

http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/blog/?p=77

a. mp4 2 dv:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/ogg2dv/Kuvakaappaus_01.png

b. ogg 2 dv

http://www.arkki.info/howto/ogg2dv/Kuvakaappaus_02.png

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So,

use ffmpeg like this:

ffmpeg -i file.ogg -target dv file.dv

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Re: Auto login

2007-06-08 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Alfred Nutile kirjoitti:
 could you explain a little more this process of setting up the lts.conf
 to auto login.
 Thanks
 

I try to explain what I have done, Dapper 6.06.1 + LTSP 4.2.

I need some kind of Into-TV-solution for a school. There is already full 
LTSP system running on that school. I figured out that I might do that 
with autologin and simple web page (now I have to figure out how to push 
web page in that client's fullscreen browser ).

There is few tutorials, Google is your friend:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2002-November/msg00015.html
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WorkInProgress#Public_and_private_use_of_the_wo
http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/A_more_complete_How-To_for_setting_up_autologin_of_clients_using_Gnome_and_GDM

1. Client in /etc/hosts-file

192.168.1.101   ws101.ltsp  ws101

2. New login name infotv and new /usr/bin/autologin-file

#!/bin/bash
CLIENT=$(echo $DISPLAY | cut -d. -f1)
case $CLIENT in
 ws101)disp=infotv;;
esac
echo $disp

3. Some change in GDM

/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom

[daemon]
RemoteGreeter=/usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter
AutomaticLoginEnable=true
TimedLoginEnable=true
TimedLogin=/usr/bin/autologin| # There have to be | at end
TimedLoginDelay=5

[security]
DisallowTCP=false
AllowRemoteAutoLogin=true

[xdmcp]

[gui]

[greeter]
GraphicalThemedColor=#ddbc78

[chooser]

[debug]

[servers]

4. Firefox with Autohide and fullscreen

Infotv-Firefox need one extension Autohide and then you can put 
Firefox with -fullscreen option on the Gnome desktop session as 
automatic launched.

http://www.krickelkrackel.de/autohide/

5. You don't have do anything with lts.conf.

6. I do not know how to get off that annoying X restarting for Dapper, 
there is patched rpm for Gnome, but I do not how to use it in dapper 
(*.deb).

7. Now I got one or more clients for Info-TV purpose on the ordinary 
LTSP system.

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Re: Auto login

2007-06-08 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

 6. I do not know how to get off that annoying X restarting for Dapper, 
 there is patched rpm for Gnome, but I do not how to use it in dapper 
 (*.deb).

What is that patch?
Is that patch available somewhere?

Dapper 6.06.1 has Gnome 2.14.3, rpm is for Gnome 2.14.9, so alien 
(rpm2deb) is useless for that rpm-package.

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Re: Auto login

2007-06-08 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

 Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 
 6. I do not know how to get off that annoying X restarting for Dapper, 
 there is patched rpm for Gnome, but I do not how to use it in dapper 
 (*.deb).
 
 What is that patch?
 Is that patch available somewhere?

Well, there is long discuss about that problem (X restrting with wrong 
username Linux, should be in my case infotv.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340148

I don't see/understand/find any solution for Dapper's Gnome so I have to 
just live with that.

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Re: How to upgrade ltsp

2007-08-25 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Krsnendu dasa kirjoitti:
 I am a bit afraid of doing a full distribution upgrade on a production 
 system, although I have to say it has worked pretty well on my home system.

   

I use Ubuntu 6.06 LTS with LTSP 4.2. Next L(ong) T(erm) S(upport) will 
be Ubuntu 8.04. If then everybody confirms, that LTSP5/6 is fully 
integrated and works as easy as LTSP 4.2, then I might upgrade. If not, 
I will use 6.06/4.2 to the summer 2009, when LTS support ends.

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Re: Text to Speech

2007-09-06 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Jim Kronebusch kirjoitti:
 Anyone have any advice, this is driving me nuts :-)


   

How about kttsd with festival - it speaks even finnish ;-).

http://www.arkki.info/howto/KTTSD/kttsd_08.png

Screenshot is two years old, PC, not thin client.

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Re: Auto-Login Thin Clients

2007-09-17 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/A_more_complete_How-To_for_setting_up_autologin_of_clients_using_Gnome__GDM


   

I am doing some kind of Info-TV-thin-client-solution and use that howto, 
my notes about Info-TV:

http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=10851.msg78165#msg78165

Thin client goes all to way up and starting fullscreen Firefox without 
mouse and keyboard.

And here is my testpage (with some javascript):

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Info-TV/test/webpres.html

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Re: [Ltsp-discuss] URGENT: Can't go live with Feisty or Gutsy-Please help.

2007-10-31 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Scott Balneaves kirjoitti:
 Yes, there was a bug, it was fixed.  Should be fine in gutsy.

   

I can confirm that, see this howto (sorry for finnish, but there are 
some screenshots about printing):

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_7.10_LTSP5 - USB-tulostimen...

Client - HP t5135
Printer - USB Lexmark E232
Driver - Optra E+ (this one works)

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Re: Upgrade from 7.04 - 7.10

2007-11-02 Thread Asmo Koskinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
 At the thjin clients, it looks like they connect and actually get dhcp 
 addresses, but finally enters a shell when certain files are not found.

Tell us - what kind of thin clients - old pc's or real one's.

I run to that with old real one - Jammin 225 - it was too weak for LTSP5 
(Edubuntu 7.10).

It seems to me that X/LDM is not starting, maybe too less ram. New 
ssh-key-concept needs more power in thin clients.

I have made two howto's for new LTSP:

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_7.10_LTSP5
http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Edubuntu_7.10_Classroom_Server

Jammin 225 working not at all, HP t5135 just great. Specs for Jammin 225:

http://www.disklessworkstations.com/web/documentation/ltsp_term-j225.pdf

But Jammin 225 works just great with old system:

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_6.06_LTSP42

So tell us something about your thin clients.

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Re: I can't find the Mozilla Firefox plugins directory

2007-11-04 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Charlie Dorff kirjoitti:
 Hi...
 I can't find the Mozilla Firefox plugins directory. Could someone explain how 
 to find it? Thanks.
 Charlie

If you write on Firefox's navigation toolbar about:plugins you see 
something like this:

Shockwave Flash

 Tiedostonimi: libflashplayer.so
 Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48

MIME-tyyppi Kuvaus  PäätteetKäytössä
application/x-shockwave-flash   Shockwave Flash swf Kyllä
application/futuresplashFutureSplash Player spl Kyllä

Then you can locate libflashplayer.so this way:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo updatedb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate libflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Another example:

Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.20.0

 Tiedostonimi: libtotem-basic-plugin.so

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate libtotem-basic-plugin.so
/usr/lib/totem/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

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Edubuntu with two servers

2007-11-04 Thread Asmo Koskinen

My next stop will be Edubuntu Classroom Server -edition with 2 servers.

I got now working environment with 2 servers and 113 t5135 -thin clients 
at a school, I use dhcpd load balancing (Ubuntu 6.06.1 and LTSP 4.2):

http://www.arkki.info/howto/LTSP-2-servers/ltsp-2-servers.png

How hard it will be with Edubuntu Classroom Server?
Do I need change anything more than dhcpd-conf files at master and slave?
Can LDM handle 2 servers?

I do not use LDAP, just copied passwd-files in both servers, /home is 
behind nfs-server (third server).

I found this line:

Add support for multiple application servers to ldm Make it possibler 
for the user to select from a list of application servers to log in to

https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/Devel/RoadMap

So this feature is on the road, but not yet here?

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Re: Does Ubuntu 7.10 come with Orca screen reader?

2007-11-04 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Charlie Dorff kirjoitti:
 I am currently using Ubuntu 7.04 and I am thinking about purchasing a CD of 
 7.10. I was wondering if 7.10 comes with Orca screen reader? Thanks.
 Charlie

I think in 7.10 you should use gnopernicus.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/gnopernicus

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Re: Sound configuration

2007-11-04 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Bill Moseley kirjoitti:

 OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApple
 Can someone point me to documentation that would help debug?

Here are applets:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/gnome/gnome-applets

And here are bugs:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bugs

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Re: GDM login asks only password on login failure

2007-11-05 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Bill Moseley kirjoitti:

 Are you saying that there is an existing bug?  I did look for an
 existing bug, but might have missed it.

   

No, I don't know is it bug or feature ;-). I just point out that maybe 
someone else has found something similar or notice same thing. That's all.

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Re: Can anyone confirm that flash audio works on Edubunt 7.10?

2007-11-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Bill Moseley kirjoitti:
 I just want to be clear that it's something odd with my installation.
 IIRC, all I've done is install 7.10 and then added all the restricted
 goodies to get flash.

   

Have you installed this package?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo wget 
http://pulseaudio.vdbonline.net/libflashsupport/libflashsupport_1.0~2219-1_i386.deb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo dpkg -i libflashsupport_1.0~2219-1_i386.deb
(Luetaan tietokantaa... 92415 tiedostoa ja hakemistoa tällä hetkellä 
asennettuna.)
Valmistellaan paketin libflashsupport 1.0~2219-1 vaihtamsta (käyttäen pakettia 
libflashsupport_1.0~2219-1_i386.deb)...
Puretaan korvaavaa libflashsupport-pakettia...
Säädän asetukset: libflashsupport (1.0~2219-1) ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$

After that everything works for me - Ubuntu 7.10 + LTSP5 or Ecunut 7.10 
Classroom Server

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Re: Lingering Users and Painfully Slow OpenOffice Startup

2007-11-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
R. Scott Belford kirjoitti:
 Also, I notice that it is taking OpenOffice somewhere in the neighborhood
 of 2 minutes to open.  Is there something to do to lessen this load?
   

Here is one of the many tweaking howtos:

http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28209/How_to_make_OpenOffice_run_faster_in_Ubuntu

I think that you should not use Java in OpenOffice.org if you don't 
really need it, it is biggest reason for slow starting.

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Re: control of internet access

2007-11-11 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Reiner Schmid kirjoitti:
 I use it ,too.
 It is for Feisty, but it is easy to fix for Gutsy.
   

I do not use dansguardian (in our school is in fact firewall and proxy 
behind our gateway), but I think that if we need one (gateway, proxy, 
dansguardian, etc) it is much easier setup another server for that than 
setup working Edubuntu.

Look for SME Server: http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation

The fact that it serves as a gateway means it has separate interfaces 
with each network, and provides security and routing. If you configure 
your server to operate in server and gateway mode, your server will 
require either:

 1. two ethernet adapters (one to communicate with the local network and 
the other to communicate with the external network/Internet)

http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:Administration_Manual:Chapter5


Why I think that way?

If you already use Edubuntu with two NIC's, that way you don't have to 
mess up with Edubuntu server - you can leave all as it is in 
Edubuntu/LTSP environment. You just add one machine between your 
Edubuntu/LTSP server and real Internet.


How much that need for another server?

Very basic i586/686-machine do that. You do not need 3D-graphic card or 
something.

 Version 7.0 of SME Server is based on CentOS 4.4 and uses the 2.6 
series Linux kernel.

http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:Administration_Manual:Chapter4

---

I have lots of howto's (both LTSP 4.2 and LTSP 5, in finnish) and next 
one will be Edubuntu 7.10 Classroom (two NICs) AND SME Server (two NICs) 
as Internet content filter.

http://wiki.contribs.org/Dansguardian

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/LTSP_Ohjeita

So thank you for asking ;-).

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Re: Thin Client Manager problems

2007-11-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Charles Austin kirjoitti:
 Joe,
 Thanks for the link.  I tried that, but still no luck.

To me TCM worked partially:

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_7.10_LTSP5#head-688b7cc80cdfada3bf57d7d06ece7fa29f834960

Message to client - yes
Killing running application - yes
Remote access - no

Remote access and taking control over desktop worked with X11VNC without 
TCM, just like Joe pointed out.

That was on a test environment, not yet on the production environment.

I hope TCM works as it should when next LTS is out (Ubuntu 8.04) - I 
have not skills to help for that, but I can beta test when first alpha 
is out for downloading:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule

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Re: control of internet access

2007-11-13 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Gavin McCullagh kirjoitti:
 A transparent proxy is usually the easiest way.

   

Here are some documents/howtos:


A parent's guide to Linux Web filtering

http://www.linux.com/feature/113733

Add Web Porn Filtering and Other Content Filtering to Linux Desktops

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9044

Setting up DansGuardian on a single home PC running Ubuntu

http://www.pilpi.net/journal/item-985.php


And so on...

As you see, when you use Dansguardian in same server as LTSP, you can 
use these desktop setups.


[for finnish speaking people, I made this for Ubuntu 5.10: 
http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=1071.0]

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Re: My Negative Gutsy Experience

2007-11-14 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Bob Wooden kirjoitti:
 In what archive can I get libflashsupport?  I searched Synaptic and 
 could not locate it.
   

It is only one deb-file:

1.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo wget 
http://pulseaudio.vdbonline.net/libflashsupport/libflashsupport_1.0~2219-1_i386.deb

2.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root$ sudo dpkg -i libflashsupport_1.0~2219-1_i386.deb

Then just reboot your thin client.

Read more:

http://pulseaudio.revolutionlinux.com/PulseAudio


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Re: installing dwl-G132 in edubuntu 7.10

2007-11-30 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Barbara II Pizarro-Muga kirjoitti:
 I don't have any idea how to install dwl-G132 into Edubuntu.
   

Maybe this helps:

NdisWrapper DWL-G122

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NdisWrapper_DWL-G122

Read this, too:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper

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Re: Upgrade?

2007-12-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Richard Doyle kirjoitti:
 We're happily running Edubuntu 7.04, but are interested in upgrading to
 Gutsy (Edubuntu 7.10) over the winter holidays.

   

Me, too, from Ubuntu 6.06 32-bit (P4/1GB) to the Ubuntu 7.10 64-bit 
(Dual Core Xeon/4GB). Quite a jump. We has used that old system about 
three years now - started with SuSE 9.2, then Breezy and Dapper. And I 
will after that upgarde to the 8.04 for next three years.

Old one (once again, sorry for finnish...):

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_6.06_LTSP42#head-63807a6c4ef2050689569837559e4c407b95af0a
 I'm concerned about reports of problems with local devices (USB thumb drives).
   

My test environment worked just fine (Gnash, USB, Sound...), new one:

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Edubuntu_7.10_Classroom_Server_%28x86_64%29

Clients will be old P4 machines:

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/LTSP_Ohjeita#head-a289f7ef5347792722aa648331486f6b134d8792


That way I can take best of both worlds - server/Xeon/64-bit and 
clients/P4/32-bit.

I will report how smooth that jump will be... it is my and ten other 
colleges daily office environment.

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Re: Edubuntu LTSP Netboot Client Setup

2007-12-10 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Timothy Boyden kirjoitti:
 Not sure what to troubleshoot for a solution. Can anyone help me out
 with a clue?
   

I believe you do not have enough memory for X, I found this piece of 
information about T22:

S3 Savage/IX graphics chip with 8MB of SGRAM - is that true?

I do have Jammin 225:

http://www.disklessworkstations.com/web/documentation/ltsp_term-j225.pdf

It worked very with LTSP 4.2 but not anymore with LTSP5. So I did drop 
it out, time to move on with more powerful thin clients.

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Re: Trouble With Gutsy

2007-12-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
 I have an AMD64 server with ten i386 clients.

I have tested with Intel Duo Core with P4 client:

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Edubuntu_7.10_Classroom_Server_%28x86_64%29

Client:

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/LTSP_Ohjeita#head-a289f7ef5347792722aa648331486f6b134d8792

It worked out of box with one nic and with little tweaked dhcpd.conf. 
Sound and usb worked, too. Even YouTube with Gnash.

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Re: Login Problem

2008-01-17 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Uwe Geercken kirjoitti:
 Steve,

 please don't put windows on those machines. I believe I speak for all  
 when I say, give us some more details, ask more questions and we will  
 get your setup going.
   

I got new thin clients for my updated Edubuntu Classroom Server 7.10 
x86_64 environment:

http://marc.info/?l=ltsp-discussm=119453643600375w=2

Before I was able to hit F2 (BIOS Setup) I did have to remove battery 
for a while on the motherboard, because there was password for BIOS and 
I did not know that password. That blew away password. Then in the BIOS 
I did have to  change boot device priority - network boot as a first 
device (pxe).

After all that these PC's works very well with Edubuntu - I even use 
Windows dhcp-server as only dhcp-server on our mixed network and removed 
dhcp3-server from Edubuntu:

http://marc.info/?l=ltsp-discussm=11464026181w=2

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Re: two servers: dhcp priority

2008-01-17 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Uwe Geercken kirjoitti:
 as you are talking about dhcp. when you have two dhcp servers in one 
 network, which one is picked up first.


I got one system with two ltsp-servers (ubuntu 6.06+ltsp 4.2), both have 
dhcp3-server (failover/master/slave). On that network there are 113 HP 
t5125/5135 thin clients.

1. Network:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Valokuvat/LTSP-Mantykangas.png

2. Master server:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Mantykangas/dhcpd.conf-master.txt

3. Slave server:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Mantykangas/dhcpd.conf-slave.txt

4. All conf-files for that system:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Mantykangas/

5. Wiki page in finnish:
http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_6.06_LTSP42

6. A classroom:

http://www.mantykankaankoulu.kokkola.fi/vme/tunninal/tunninal.html

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Then I got that other system for my own office, there is only one 
dhcp-server, Windows dhcp server.


So use only one Windows dhcp server on mixed network, setup in Windows 
server:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Edubuntu_Classroom_Server_7.10_x86_64_Windows_dhcpd.png

On linux-only network it is possible to use two dhcp servers with 
failover system.

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But I have not tried two Edubuntu Classroom Servers on same network as 
failover system. I think it should work same way as my Ubuntu 6.06 + 
ltsp 4.2 system. There is something for that:

https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDHCPload-balancingFailover


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Re: AW: two servers: dhcp priority

2008-01-17 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Anton Kaser kirjoitti:
 A setup with 2 Network Cards in the Edubuntu Server is not possible, because
 the clients must be able to boot XP or Edubuntu without any Pluging.
   

I got one NIC on that Edubuntu-server:

http://marc.info/?l=ltsp-discussm=120001957229929w=2

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Re: minimum requirements, will it work?

2008-01-22 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Ismael Farfán Estrada kirjoitti:
 Do you think it may work? Will it be a failiure?
   

All you have to do is just try. But I think one of the biggest problem 
is your hardware for X.

You may have to add and change this on your lts.conf-file:

X_COLOR_DEPTH

http://tigger.ws/wiki/index.php/LTSP5
http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/customizing-thin-client.html

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Re: How to mass create users

2008-01-23 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Joseph Hartman kirjoitti:
 Is there a mass user creation method I don't know about? Upload a .csv or 
 something? Thanks -joe
   

I allways install Webmin in every machine I use, so I have used Webmin 
for that on LTSP-server.

Testing screenshot, just 3 users/accounts:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/LTSP-2-servers/Webmin-users-02.png

I created over 100 users/accounts at once with Webmin.

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Re: thin client manager

2008-01-27 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

 4. But. X11Vnc seems not to work for me _inside_ TCM, without TCM yes.

 And I think problem is not Alpha 3/x86_64...

   

Same thing on Ubuntu 7.10 x86_32:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5/TCM_Works_Not_Ubuntu_7.10.png

TCM works with execute, message, blank, un-blank... x11vnc is installed 
in the client/chroot.

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TCM Works! (Re: thin client manager)

2008-01-27 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Charles Austin kirjoitti:

 sudo ltsp-update-image
   
My bad,,,

Charles, please add that one to the Wiki page! I got it now.


Ubuntu 7.10 x86_32:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5/TCM_Works_Ubuntu_7.10.png

Edubuntu 8.04 Alpha 3 x86_64:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/TCM_Works_X11vnc.png


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Re: TCM Works! (Re: thin client manager)

2008-01-29 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Charles Austin kirjoitti:
 I have added this.

Thank you,

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Re: TCM Works! (Re: thin client manager)

2008-01-29 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Oliver Grawert kirjoitti:

 this command is only available and used in gutsy (7.10) and onwards ...
   

Done.

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FYI: bvnc, vinagre and Edubuntu 8.04

2008-01-30 Thread Asmo Koskinen

FYI.

On the Edubuntu 8.04 (I'm testing Alpha 3 x86_64) there are some 
alternatives for remote desktops to use with Thin Client Manager. It is 
now real easy to help pupil online.

1. bvnc (ahavi)

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/BVNC_01.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/BVNC_02.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/BVNC_03.png

2. vinagre

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Vinagre_01.png

3. vncviewer

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Edubuntu_8.04-VNC2.png

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Re: FYI: bvnc, vinagre and Edubuntu 8.04

2008-01-31 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Oliver Grawert kirjoitti:

 so if you do tests of ltsp technology, all
 development and changes are going on on the ubuntu-alternate cd,
 edubuntu-server as is will soon not be built anymore.
   

OK, I will start with Alpha 4 today (right now there is no images yet).

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-4/

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Re: FYI: bvnc, vinagre and Edubuntu 8.04

2008-01-31 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Oliver Grawert kirjoitti:

 edubuntu branding and
 educational applications will go on the addon cd which will operate as
 an addon to ubuntu

Aleksi Ikäheimo has started to translate Edubuntu Handbook to finnish.

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/edubuntu-docs/+pots/handbook/fi/+translate

Is there anything we should take more carefully now when things are 
changing from 7.10 to 8.04, no Edubuntu Classroom Server to install and 
so on?

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Re: FYI: bvnc, vinagre and Edubuntu 8.04

2008-01-31 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

 Is there anything we should take more carefully now when things are 
 changing from 7.10 to 8.04, no Edubuntu Classroom Server to install and 
 so on?

   

I think about translating procedure... not whole thing...

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Testing Hardy Alpha 4

2008-02-02 Thread asmo . koskinen

OK, Hardy Alpha 4 is out:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-February/000373.html

So I download tomorrow this image and start testing:

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-4/hardy-alternate-amd64.iso

hit F6 after selecting language, VGA and all other options you need at
the installer bootmenu of the CD. a comandline will appear at the bottom
right, append the following behind the two dashes:

ltsp-client-builder/run=true

this will run the ltsp setup at the end of the install, if your machine
has two network cards the thin client network will then be ready out of
the box on the spare network card after your first reboot.

I'm going stay up all night anyway becuase of Super Bowl ;-).

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Re: Testing Hardy Alpha 4

2008-02-03 Thread Asmo Koskinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
 hit F6 after selecting language, VGA and all other options you need at
 the installer bootmenu of the CD. a comandline will appear at the bottom
 right, append the following behind the two dashes:

 ltsp-client-builder/run=true
   

[alpha-4/hardy-alternate-amd64.iso]

I hit F6 before selecting anything else and then run installer 
(selecting language and so on).

Everything else is OK, but USB-stick is mounted as twice on client's 
desktop (two nautilus and two icons, see screenshot) and client's 
desktop do not remember screen resolution.

Here is my yet another finnish howto, at the bottom of wiki page are few 
screenshots (USB-stick, Youtube/Gnash, Vinagre and so on):

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_8.04_Alternate_%28x86_64%29

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Re: lts.conf

2008-02-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Gavin McCullagh kirjoitti:

 /opt/ltsp/i386//usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz
 /opt/ltsp/i386//usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts.conf
   

And..

http://tigger.ws/wiki/index.php/LTSP5
http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/customizing-thin-client.html

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Re: please help: Logins from thin clients not registering

2008-02-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Greg Reagle kirjoitti:
 Any ideas?  Thank you.
   

I use Cacti, access with N800 (test environment (from home to arkki.info):

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Ruutukaappaukset/ltsp-koti-export-arkki-N800.png

Few minutes ago from my office server to arkki.info:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Cacti_Office.png

I do not care who is in, maybe how many. But all my servers are so heavy 
(Duo Core Xeon, lots of memory), so it really do not matters how many 
are in.

Cacti is very easy to install - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cacti

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Re: LTSP Thin Client Problem

2008-02-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
 can i test to make sure dhcp is working on my fresh edubuntu install?
   

a. Put your laptop on that network and let it get it's ip with 
dhcp-client. If your dhcp-server is ok in your ltsp-server, it gets ip.

b. You can also check log-file for dhcp-server, there are lines for leases.

Something like this (my home test environment for Ubuntu 7.10):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /var/log/daemon.log | grep dhcp

Feb  7 15:04:18 ubuntu dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:20:ed:bc:13:20 via eth0
Feb  7 15:04:19 ubuntu dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.250 to 
00:20:ed:bc:13:20 via eth0
Feb  7 15:04:20 ubuntu dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.250 
(192.168.1.101) from 00:20:ed:bc:13:20 via eth0
Feb  7 15:04:20 ubuntu dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.1.250 to 
00:20:ed:bc:13:20 via eth0

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No more Classroom Server - what mailing list to use

2008-02-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen

Well, this might be little bit stupid question, but...

If there are no more (after 8.04) Edubuntu Classroom Server, what is 
best mailing list for discussing about ltsp5 related issues?

I read now all three (edubuntu, k12osn and ltsp-discuss). But in every 
list we are going to talk about same issues depending ltsp5.

Should we left this list (edubuntu) just for educational programs and 
keep ltsp5 discuss on the ltsp-discuss mailing list?

And how about k12osn? Is ltsp5 on the Fedora so different beast, that 
they can't discuss about ltsp5 issues on the ltsp-discuss list? And of 
course there are Novell/Suse, Debian, Gentoo and so on...

Just thinking...

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Re: documentation

2008-02-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Jordan Mantha kirjoitti:

 The Edubuntu Handbook would probably be the closest to what you're
 thinking. I don't know of a PDF version of it, but it would be nice to have.

   

Here is one - not mine, I did find it with Google:

http://www.hunterhollow.com/handbook.pdf

It seems dated as January 2, 2008.

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Re: Thin client auto-logon

2008-02-13 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Sergio Dicandia kirjoitti:
 I need to avoid children having to log on the thin clients for a number of 
 reasons (simplicity, to start with).
 Is there a simple way to have thin clients auto logon?

Is this the best way do auto login on the Ubuntu 7.10?

1. First I did this:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/161794/comments/29

2. After that I did this (in chroot):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# wget 
http://ppa.launchpad.net/francis-giraldeau/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ltsp/ldm_5.0.39ubuntu1~fg4_i386.deb
--19:36:22--  
http://ppa.launchpad.net/francis-giraldeau/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ltsp/ldm_5.0.39ubuntu1~fg4_i386.deb
   = `ldm_5.0.39ubuntu1~fg4_i386.deb'
Resolving ppa.launchpad.net... 91.189.90.217
Connecting to ppa.launchpad.net|91.189.90.217|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1 994 088 (1.9M) [application/x-debian-package]

100%[==] 1 994 088  106.05K/sETA 00:009

19:36:41 (106.88 KB/s) - `ldm_5.0.39ubuntu1~fg4_i386.deb' saved 
[1994088/1994088]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# dpkg -i ldm*
(Reading database ... 16366 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace ldm 5.0.39 (using ldm_5.0.39ubuntu1~fg4_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement ldm ...
Setting up ldm (5.0.39ubuntu1~fg4) ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/#

3. And finally I added few lines for client.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
[00:20:ed:bc:13:20]
LDM_USERNAME=ltsp001
LDM_PASSWORD=edu*
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

4. And then updated image (sudo ltsp-update-image).

5. Now that client can do auto login all by itself.

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Re: Installing Edubuntu 7.10 - Thin Client Problems

2008-02-15 Thread Asmo Koskinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
 Granted, all of my thin clients are i386 machines running 400 
 MHz processors (Pentium II's).  That was the idea to use older equipment. 
   

Try to start put this line in lts.conf file.

X_COLOR_DEPTH=16

/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf

Default is 32, maybe that is too high for your clients (video cards).

http://tigger.ws/wiki/index.php/LTSP5

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Re: TFTP boot problems in Gusty AMD64

2008-02-16 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Paul J. Thompson kirjoitti:
 I set up two static interfaces one 192.168.1.x for the lan side and one
 192.168.0.1 for the LTSP side.

   

If you use two nic, the use Edubuntu Classroom Server. It use two nic as 
default. I have Wiki page for that (in finnish, sorry).

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Edubuntu_7.10_Classroom_Server

All you have to do is give static ip for one nic, everything else works 
out of box.

And if you think Edubuntu is just for classroom, not for business, you 
got it all wrong ;-).

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Re: Testing 7.10

2008-02-16 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Krsnendu dasa kirjoitti:
 2. Flash videos are jerky.

What you mean by jerky?

I got test page for streaming flash: http://arkki.info/wordpress/

And here is screencast from client (vncviewer and xvidcap):

http://arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5/test-.mov - 2.7M

I do not see (or hear) any problems on my thin client.

This is Ubuntu 7.10.

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About Streaming Media (Re: Testing 7.10)

2008-02-16 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 I got test page for streaming flash: http://arkki.info/wordpress/

   

giss.tv is really interesting, too. It is basically icecast2-server. All 
what you need is dv-camera, three programs (dvgrab, ffmpeg2theora and 
oggfwd) and internet access.

Something like this:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/GissTV/Giss.tv_01.png

Very interesting, when you do not have your own server in the internet.

G.I.S.S GLOBAL INDEPENDENT STREAMING SUPPORT

free streaming services for free media.
free as in cost, free as in software.

http://giss.tv/

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Re: About Streaming Media (Re: Testing 7.10)

2008-02-17 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 http://www.arkki.info/howto/GissTV/Giss.tv_01.png

   
Giss.tv is basically IceCast2-server, so now I got my own private 
television at home ;-) .

http://www.arkki.info/howto/VDR/DV_IceCast2_Live.png

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Re: About Streaming Media (Re: Testing 7.10)

2008-02-17 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 http://www.arkki.info/howto/VDR/DV_IceCast2_Live.png

   
Here is stream from digi-tv recording 
(digi-tv/mythtv/ezstream/icecast2/vlc).

http://www.arkki.info/howto/VDR/Digi-TV_MythTV_ezstream_icevast2_VLC.png

That's all - no more spam about this thing...

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Re: LTSP - Server AMD64, Thin Clients i386

2008-02-17 Thread Asmo Koskinen
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 ltsp-build-client --arch i386

   
http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Edubuntu_7.10_Classroom_Server_%28x86_64%29

- i386-ympäristön luominen päätteille = creating i386-environment for 
clients

Yes, you need internet access.

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Re: Edubuntu AMD64 Server with i386 Clients Install Problem (7.04 Won't Instal, 7.10 Installs, But Client Gets Connect Error)

2008-02-22 Thread Asmo Koskinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
 Does anyone have any ideas how I can proceed here given that 7.10 won't let 
 the clients connect and 
 7.04 won't install at all?
   

Do you have now that internet connect? I got Intel based P4 client 
working just fine with vanilla Ubuntu 7.10 x86_64.

Fujitsu-Siemens Scenic (P4/256/i845G)

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/LTSP_Ohjeita

Sound, USB-stick - 
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/FS_i845G_P4_256_Sound_USB.png
Flash with Gnash - 
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/FS_i845G_P4_256_Gnash.png

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Re: Howto Install Hardy

2008-02-28 Thread asmo . koskinen

 so, i'd like to give hardy a try.

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_8.04_Alternate_%28x86_64%29


Download Alternate Alpha 5:

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/alpha-5/

Install it:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/2008-January/003218.html


I will install Alpha 5 next weekend.

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Likewise Open

2008-02-28 Thread asmo . koskinen

Anyone using this already with fat clients?

UWN: Many businesses use Active Directory or some form of LDAP
extensively. How is the Windows AD integration coming along for Hardy and
what are the future plans?

Thanks to the great work from Jerry Carter producing likewise-open, and of
Rick Clark packaging it in Ubuntu, the package has been uploaded just
before Feature Freeze. On Ubuntu desktop, it provides a graphical
interface to integrate into AD, while on Ubuntu Server Edition a single
command line will allow the joining. Once this is done, all
authentications are seamlessly redirected to AD.

It looks good at fulfilling its promise of very easy integration into an
AD domain, but it now needs some extensive testing before 8.04 is
released. If you have access to an AD domain and can run a few tests with
Hardy, now is the right time to do so and it is a great way to contribute
to Ubuntu Server Edition. 

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue79

Likewise Open for Ubuntu 7.10:

http://www.likewisesoftware.com/community/index.php/download

I do not have AD here where I am right now, but program itself seems fine.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/likewise-open/bin$ file DomainJoin.exe
DomainJoin.exe: MS-DOS executable PE  for MS Windows (console) Intel 80386
32-bit Mono/.Net assembly
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/likewise-open/bin$

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Likewise/Likewise_01.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Likewise/Likewise_02.png

Very promising service for mixed WindowsAD/Hardy networks.

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Re: Howto Install Hardy

2008-02-28 Thread asmo . koskinen

 That's regular ubuntu.  do i then install the edubuntu add on cd?

That's right - alternate CD with ltsp-packages. You can install everything
else by Synaptic (edubuntu-packages) after installation.

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Re: Likewise Open

2008-02-28 Thread asmo . koskinen

 does this mean its written in .net?

It uses Mono.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache showpkg likewise-open
[--]
Dependencies:
4.0.0-1likewise1 - libc6 (2 2.6-1) libcomerr2 (2 1.33-3) libkrb53 (2
1.6.dfsg.1) libldap2 (2 2.1.17-1) libpam0g (2 0.99.7.1) libuuid1 (0
(null)) libpam-runtime (2 0.76-13.1) libpam-modules (0 (null))
mono-runtime (2 1.2.3) libmono-winforms2.0-cil (0 (null)) krb5-user (0
(null)) libldap2 (0 (null)) libkrb53 (0 (null)) perl (0 (null))
domain-lsa-service (0 (null)) domain-lsa-service (0 (null))

I found this one, too:

SADMS takes care of handling configuration files to achieve the the
integration (joining) of Linux hosts to an ActiveDirectory domain

http://sadms.sourceforge.net/


In here Finland most schools uses Windows-environment. Mr Gates has done
recently two moves with help of Mr Vanhanen (PM) to keep finnish pupils on
the Windows-environment. First was [EMAIL PROTECTED] and second one was 
DreamSpark.
So we really need here tools like these, if we want schools to try Linux
and  then keep using them.

But...something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you... Mr Gates

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Hardy Alpha 5 AMD64

2008-03-01 Thread Asmo Koskinen

I updated my Wiki page for Hardy Alpha 5 AMD64.

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_8.04_Alternate_%28x86_64%29

TCM and Gnash/FF Plugin are broken, everything else (I did not try auto 
login) is fine.

Tomorrow I download Hardy Alpha 5 x86.

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Re: Howto Install Hardy

2008-03-02 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Krsnendu dasa kirjoitti:
 This the the same whether I install in a VMware virtual machine or a
 physical machine.

   

Do and file bug raport.

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Re: Hardy Alpha 5 AMD64

2008-03-02 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 TCM and Gnash/FF Plugin are broken, everything else (I did not try auto 
 login) is fine.
   

TCM is ok.

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_8.04_Alternate_%28x86_64%29

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RE: flash videos on Hardy

2008-03-06 Thread asmo . koskinen
 Someone had suggested early that they use wine to run the windows
 version of firefox with it's plugins.  Is this a better alternative?

I do, but only for Shockwave. Flash works just fine with Linux/ltsp.

I think we got quite heavy environment - both servers has 2x duo core xeon
and 6 giga ram. Network is gigabit and clients (113) are t5135, few t5125.
We do have failover dhcpd-system.

So if you have power enough Flash/FF is no big issue to me.

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Re: Static IP for some of my thin clients

2008-03-10 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Nicolas Roussi kirjoitti:
 I need to now give static IPs to the clients. which dhcpd.conf do I edit and
 what do I write in it?
   

Take a look at here. These all are for Ubuntu 6.06+LTSP 4.2 with static 
IP numbers.

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Koti/dhcpd.conf.txt
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Kokkola/dhcpd.conf.txt
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Kaarlela/dhcpd.conf.txt
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Mantykangas/dhcpd.conf-master.txt
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Mantykangas/dhcpd.conf-slave.txt

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Hardy Alternate Beta x86_64

2008-03-21 Thread Asmo Koskinen

Hardy Alternate Beta x86_64 is OK Out-of-Box.

Sound, thin client:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Beta_64/Sound_01.png

USB-stick, thin client:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Beta_64/USB-Stick_01.png

Vinagre, server:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Beta_64/Vinagre_01.png

TCM, you have to do this:
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Beta_64/TCM_01.png (before)
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Beta_64/TCM_02.png (after)

Gnash, server:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Beta_64/Gnash_01.png

Gnash, thin client:
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Beta_64/Gnash_02.png

-

If Flash- and Java-plugins are important to you, choose x86_32.

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Re: Hardy Alternate Beta x86_64

2008-03-24 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 USB-stick, thin client:
 http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5_64/Beta_64/USB-Stick_01.png
   

FYI - Wacom tablet works Out-of-Box. On the LTSP 4.2 is was really hard 
to get work.

LTSP5 (Ubuntu 8.04):

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Pencil/TC_Wacom_10.png

LTSP4.x (Ubuntu 5.10):

http://www.arkki.info/howto/LTSP_Ubuntu/Jammin_Wacom_01.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/LTSP_Ubuntu/Jammin_Wacom_02.png

http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=6365.msg10643#msg10643

--

It has been really long journey from Ubuntu 5.10+LTSP4.x to the Ubuntu 
8.04+LTSP5. And now everything works Out-of-Box.

Thank you once again all you good people at our great Linux community!

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Re: Parental control whitelisting in a classroom

2008-03-25 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Sergio Dicandia kirjoitti:
 Is there a simple way to do it, without building a squid+dansguardian box ?
   

I made an example years ago (2005, and sorry for finnish :-) ) but I 
think you still need Dansguardian:

http://forum.ubuntu-fi.org/index.php?topic=1071.0

I used tinyproxy instead of squid.

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About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-03-26 Thread Asmo Koskinen

Well...

1. I have used HP T5000, T5125 and T5135 very successfully on Ubuntu 
6.06.1 with LTSP 4.2. Everything works.

2. I have tested Hardy Alternate Beta (both x86_32 and x86_64) with 
Fujitsu-Siemens Scenic (P4/256/i845G). Everything works.

And now moment of truth...


3. I have now tested HP T5000 (not yet T5125 or T5135, but I will) on 
Edubuntu Classroom Server 7.10. Everything works with this lts.conf.

[default]
SOUND=True
LOCALDEV=True
LDM_SERVER=192.168.1.101
LDM_DIRECTX=True
X_RAMPERC=80
X_COLOR_DEPTH=16

Here is movie about booting and using TuxPaint.

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/T5000_Edubuntu_32.flv

I can live with this model without LDM/SSH2, because xvncviewer and tcm 
works very well from server to the client:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/TCM_T5000_01.png


4. HP T5000 does not work on Hardy Beta x86_32. Same server, network and 
lts.conf.

Here is movie (no quiet splash, so we can see booting process) . There 
is weird green flash at the near end and then T5000 give it up and boots 
itself again.

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/T5000_Hardy_32.flv



What I can do with T5000 and Hardy Alternate Beta? And maybe also with 
T5125 and T5135?

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Re: About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-03-27 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 4. HP T5000 does not work on Hardy Beta x86_32. Same server, network and 
 lts.conf.
   

I'm once again so confused...


I did copy /opt/ltsp from Edubuntu 7.10 to the Hardy Beta 8.04.

I run ltsp-update-sshkeys and ltsp-update-image, but NOT 
ltsp-update-kernels.


LDM login says it is Edubuntu, never mind - I did have access to the 
thin client.

I was able to hear sounds from server, not from thin client (Rhytmbox).

But TCM and Vinagre works as expected.

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/T5000_Hardy_32_02.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/T5000_Hardy_32_03.png


But then I did ltsp-update-kernels - no X or access to the client after 
that. Just Busybox.



So with is so big different between Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy Beta 8.04? 
Linux kernel? X?

Please, give me some hope here, that I can use HP T5000/5125/5135 
Out-of-Box with modified lts.conf, when Hardy Alternate 8.04 is out.

Or do I have stay with Edubuntu Classroom Server 7.10?

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Re: About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-03-27 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

 I'm once again so confused...

   

My skills are just not enough. I wait for final release.

Now I'm happy with T5000 and Edubuntu 7.10 and also
DIY-PC (P4) with Hardy Beta 8.04.

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Re: About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-03-27 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Gerald Drouillard kirjoitti:
 IMO, The best way to start fresh is to rename the /opt/ltsp/i386 
 directory and issue a:
 ltsp-build-client

So I did, fresh installation of Hardy Alternate Beta x86_32.

Just before T5000 flashes green screen it says this as error message:

memory size detection failed

/* Find how many physical memory there is on card */
+   memsize1 = (vga_rseq(NULL, 0x34) + 1)  1;
+   memsize2 = vga_rseq(NULL, 0x39)  2;
+
+   if ((16 = memsize1)  (memsize1 = 64)  (memsize1 == memsize2))
+  info-screen_size = memsize1  20;
+   else {
+  dev_err((dev-dev), memory size detection failed (%x %x), suppose 16 
MB\n, memsize1, memsize2);
+  info-screen_size = 16  20;
+   }

http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/22/drivers/video/vt8623fb.c



So how (on earth) Gutsy 7.10's kernel is ok, but not Hardy 8.04's kernel 
anymore?

I do not get this one.

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Re: About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-03-27 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

 Just before T5000 flashes green screen it says this as error message:

 memory size detection failed
   

Digging the Dirt...

* The kernel via fb driver (vt8623fb) can't calculate the size of 
AGP memory size correctly and defaults to 16MB. (See startup output.)
* The Xorg via driver also can't calculate the AGP memory size 
correctly and gets 32.5MB (when BIOS had set it to 32MB). See 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_VIA

Summary: Both the kernel vt8623fb driver and the Xorg via driver should 
be changed to correctly determine the amount of video memory. Luc's 
patch (apparently to the openchrome driver) might provide a base for a 
suitable change.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/179634

Maybe I am stuck with Ubuntu 7.10/2.6.22-kernel?

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Re: ltsp-build client getting stuck

2008-03-28 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Krsnendu dasa kirjoitti:
 I have tried changing mirrors. What else can I try?
   

In what country you live in? Show us your /etc/apt/sources.list and we 
fix it.

I live in Finland and this is mine for Ubuntu 7.10.

--8--
deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted
deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted

deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted
deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates main restricted

deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe
deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates universe

deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy multiverse
deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse
deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-updates multiverse

deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main restricted 
universe multiverse
deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main 
restricted universe multiverse

deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security multiverse
--8--

For country you change all fi to you country code and for distro you 
change all gutsy to your current distro.

Here are mirrors/countries for sources.list:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors

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Re: Resuming ltsp-build-client

2008-03-28 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Krsnendu dasa kirjoitti:
 It seems a waste to have to download everything again from scratch

Yes, you have to.

First corrupted one:

sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp/i386

Then re-build all.

sudo ltsp-build-client

And then, just in case:

sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
sudo ltsp-update-kernels
sudo ltsp-update-image

https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDistupgrade
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes

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Re: ltsp-build client getting stuck

2008-03-28 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 Krsnendu dasa kirjoitti:
   
 I have tried changing mirrors. What else can I try?
   
 

 In what country you live in? Show us your /etc/apt/sources.list and we 
 fix it.
   

And I think you find your country from this file:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ countrycodes -a  countrycodes.txt]

http://www.arkki.info/howto/countrycodes.txt

And if your country has mirror, just use it.

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Re: About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-03-28 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

 My skills are just not enough. I wait for final release.
   

So here is a bug raport.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/208137

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Re: About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-03-28 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 1. I have used HP T5000, T5125 and T5135 very successfully on Ubuntu 
 6.06.1 with LTSP 4.2. Everything works.

 2. I have tested Hardy Alternate Beta (both x86_32 and x86_64) with 
 Fujitsu-Siemens Scenic (P4/256/i845G). Everything works.

 And now moment of truth...
   

I will test next monday t5125 and t5135 with Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 
Beta, same environment as t5000.

You see, my main problem is that I have  about 70 t5135, about 30 t5125 
and about 10 t5000. I do not want loose them by Hardy... I got lot of 
PIII and P4 as thin clients, but they do not have no issues at all on 
any Ubuntu LTSP5 distro.

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Re: About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-04-01 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Oliver Grawert kirjoitti:
 what happens if you set X_VIDEO_RAM=16384 in lts.conf for these
 devices ?

Same thing - green screen and error message about memory. No help. lts.conf:

[default]
SOUND=True
LOCALDEV=True
LDM_SERVER=192.168.1.101
LDM_DIRECTX=True
X_RAMPERC=80
X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
X_VIDEO_RAM=16384

But with Edubuntu 7.10 everything is ok? lts.conf:

[default]
SOUND=True
LOCALDEV=True
LDM_SERVER=192.168.1.101
LDM_DIRECTX=True
X_RAMPERC=80
X_COLOR_DEPTH=16

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Re: Stupid video question

2008-04-11 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Todd O'Bryan kirjoitti:
 If the video card in a thin-client could handle OpenGL or MPEG, would the
 server send video to the client in a way that would rely on the client's
 video card to render it, or would all the video still be figured out by the
 server and sent raw to the client?

   

Dave at Largo has done amazing things with 3D. But there is no howto's 
or wiki's about his stuff.

http://davelargo.blogspot.com/

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Re: About HP T5000 on Edubuntu 7.10 and Hardy 8.04

2008-04-16 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Oliver Grawert kirjoitti:
 hi,
 Am Donnerstag, den 27.03.2008, 19:56 +0200 schrieb Asmo Koskinen:
   
 Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 
 Just before T5000 flashes green screen it says this as error message:

 memory size detection failed
   
 what happens if you set X_VIDEO_RAM=16384 in lts.conf for these
 devices ?

 ciao
   oli
   

Hi Oliwer,

is this thing (t5125 + framebuffer) drop dead? Any hope for Via based video?

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Re: call for spec suggestions

2008-04-16 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Sameer Verma kirjoitti:

 I'd recommend exploring the lowfat client angle a bit more. Perhaps make
 it more automated. We could even have a process that allows us to pick
 and choose specific feature sets that go into building the client (thin,
 lowfat, fat, etc).
   

The future for LTSP5 belongs to the fat clients, I'm afraid.

In here Finland I can buy pure Intel-based fat client for same money. 
What I loose? Maybe silence for start


HP Compaq dx2300:

Intel Celeron D 430, 1.6 GHz
Intel 946GZ
1024 MB
160 GB
Intel GMA 3000

291.75 €  25


HP T5135:

VIA Eden, 400 MHz
Shared video, 16 Mt UMA

289 € = 1


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Re: whats the best way to upgrade openoffice in 7.04?

2008-04-17 Thread Asmo Koskinen
john kirjoitti:
 Can anyone tell me the the preferred path for an upgrade?
   

Remove old OOo and install new one from OOo deb-package.

http://download.openoffice.org/other.html

Linux deb package works just fine with Ubuntu.

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Re: newbie to ltsp + lts conf file

2008-04-18 Thread asmo . koskinen
 I have
 used Linux for many years now (mail server, web server, file server and
 lately moodle servers), and now wish to implement ltsp in my school
 district. BTW, Ubuntu is now my distro of choice!!!.

Read these ones - no lts.conf or dhcpd.conf files at all - yes, it is
possible ;-). Ubuntu has it's magic...

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg33246.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg33247.html

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Re: newbie to ltsp + lts conf file

2008-04-18 Thread asmo . koskinen
 I have
 used Linux for many years now (mail server, web server, file server and
 lately moodle servers), and now wish to implement ltsp in my school
 district. BTW, Ubuntu is now my distro of choice!!!.

Auts... read this one (same thread):

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg33248.html

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Re: LTSP with 8.04 - Login Issues

2008-04-22 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Wagner Ferreira kirjoitti:
  
 What should I do?
   

Maybe this helps:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg33246.html

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Re: whats the best way to upgrade openoffice in 7.04?

2008-04-22 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Greg Reagle kirjoitti:
 I recommend Ubuntu Backports.  See
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports.
   

There is no updated OpenOffice for 7.04?

http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty-backports/allpackages?format=txt.gz

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Re: Simple Word processor

2008-04-25 Thread asmo . koskinen
 Maybe AbiWord (http://www.abisource.com/) which is in repository?
 Have a nice day.

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I really do not know does this one exists yet, but there are plans about
KWord for children.

http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2007/11/10/koffice-in-educational-settings/
http://ingwa2.blogspot.com/2005/09/koffice-kids-office.html

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Re: Hardy - AMD64 server and i386 thin clients

2008-04-26 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Paul J. Thompson kirjoitti:
 Hi,

 Has anyone got a 64bit server with i386 clients working?

Me?

http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Edubuntu_7.10_Classroom_Server_(x86_64)
http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Edubuntu_8.04_Classroom_Server_(x86_64)
http://wiki.ubuntu-fi.org/Ubuntu_8.04_Alternate_(x86_64)

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Re: Hardy - AMD64 server and i386 thin clients

2008-04-27 Thread Asmo Koskinen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
 my guess is the difference is negligible since most programs aren't coded for 
 64-bit, unless you want to have more than 4 gigs of ram.
   

You can use more than 4 Gb ram with Ubuntu LTSP-i386-server. I use 6 Gb:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Ruutukaappaukset/ltsp-master-htop.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP-Ruutukaappaukset/ltsp-slave-htop.png

Do not go on the 64-bit system in the school environment, where you need 
Flash, Java-plug-in and so on.

On the pure adult office environment, it is ok to me (basically just OOo 
and FF).

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Re: Towards a simpler desktop environment: What is the current state of the art?

2008-05-27 Thread Asmo Koskinen
john kirjoitti:
 How can I get _complete_ control over the user environment?
   

I do not _care_ what people do with their _own_ desktop.

I just give them programs that are useful for everybody or someone want 
for a good reason.

It is that simple to me... To me it is waste of time to _control_ user 
environment...

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Re: LTSP using Microsoft DHCP

2008-06-03 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Dorminy, Bill kirjoitti:
  

 My DHCP server is a Microsoft 2003 server. I'm not sure what scope 
 options to set so that the DHCP server will point to the right place. 
 Does anyone have any experience with this set up?


I did use something like this for a rehearsal - I have not upgraded from 
6.06/LTSP4.2 to the 8.04, but I will at the end of summer:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/Edubuntu_Classroom_Server_7.10_x86_64_Windows_dhcpd.png

Old post:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg33246.html 
(links are broken, sorry...)

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HP t5125 works now with Hardy

2008-06-21 Thread Asmo Koskinen

Hi, I got now working HP t5125 with the Hardy, Giuseppe D'Angelo 
confirmed and solved problem.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/module-init-tools/+bug/208137

But, you know, these kind of clients are sooo slooow... I have tested it 
with all the default out-of-box configurations with the Hardy.

Sound is OK - 
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/Ubuntu-8.04-Alternate-i386/Vinagre_Sound.png
USB Stick is OK - 
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/Ubuntu-8.04-Alternate-i386/Vinagre_USB_Stick.png

If you use these clients, they works, but you have to do some tweaks to 
get them faster.

http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/customizing-thin-client.html

Greetings from the land of the endless day...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_sun

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Re: HP t5125 works now with Hardy

2008-06-21 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 If you use these clients, they works, but you have to do some tweaks to 
 get them faster.

 http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/customizing-thin-client.html
   

So it is little bit faster with these changes.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386$ cat lts.conf
[00:18:FE:6F:CB:54]
X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
LDM_DIRECTX=True
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386$

I really do not know is there something more to do with lts.conf file?

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Asus Eee PC works with LTSP5

2008-07-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen

Asus Eee PC works with LTSP5 (missing atl2 network module was only heavy 
problem).

Ubuntu 8.04:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Asus_eee/Asus_eee_as_Thin_Client.flv

openSUSE 11:

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Asus_eee/Asus_eee_as_Thin_Client2.flv

http://www.planetsuse.org/
http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~cyberorg/

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Asus_eee/

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Asus EEe PC with 20 Widescreen as thin client

2008-07-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen

Now we are talking...

Asus Eee PC with 20 Widescreen (1680x1050) works out-of-box, both 
Ubuntu 8.04 and openSUSE 11.

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Asus_eee/Asus_eee_Widescreen_Hardy.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Asus_eee/Asus_eee_Widescreen_openSUSE_01.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Asus_eee/Asus_eee_Widescreen_openSUSE_02.png

Of course EEe/Xandros can do that, too.

So here we have perfect thin client (cheap, quiet and little), and it 
happens to work as mobile fat client, too.

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Re: what to do with denemo

2008-08-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Jordan Mantha kirjoitti:

 Perhaps we should consider dropping denemo in favor of another app?
 Denemo has 17 open bugs in Debian and 8 in Ubuntu. Is it a often used
 app? Would people miss it? Are there any good alternatives?

There is Rosegarden, best one for working with midi. I installed today 
12 Ubuntu Studio's on the music classroom with midi keyboards. If you 
need music apps it is better install Ubuntu Studio than Edubuntu.

I think there is no need for any music apps on the Edubuntu CD because 
of Ubuntu Studio DVD...

Rosegarden is a KDE application which provides a mixed Audio/MIDI 
sequencer (for playback and recording), a multi-track editor, music 
editing using both piano-roll and score notation, MIDI file IO, lilypond 
and Csound files export, etc.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/rosegarden

http://ubuntustudio.org/

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Re: how do you kill a user's old processes when they try to log back on

2008-09-01 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Todd O'Bryan kirjoitti:

 As a follow-on to this question, is the XRAMPERC variable that was 
 available in Gutsy still available in Hardy? I added a setting to 
 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf, but users could still crash their 
 terminals by going to a particularly graphics heavy website in Firefox.

Friend of mine in here Finland told me, that this helped.

$ sudo nano -w /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/firefox.sh

exec env MOZ_DISABLE_IMAGE_OPTIMIZE=1 $LIBDIR/$APPNAME $@

He said, that now he can go to the this page and FF do not crash. They 
use HP t5xxx clients.

http://doc.m0n0.ch/handbook-single/

Maybe you can try that, too.

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Re: how do you kill a user's old processes when they try to log back on

2008-09-01 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

 $ sudo nano -w /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/firefox.sh
 
 exec env MOZ_DISABLE_IMAGE_OPTIMIZE=1 $LIBDIR/$APPNAME $@

Last line is by default like this one:

exec $LIBDIR/$APPNAME $@

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Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
kjetil knudsen kirjoitti:

 We have also the exact same experience. We are a big school with over 
 400 clients and 9 servers that run Ubuntu Hardy. [8] I really like 
 Ubuntu, but we have to have a system that really works and that you can 
 trust beeing used by hundreds of pupils. K12LTSP did this

This proves anything... We used to have Ubuntu 6.06+LTSP4.2, now we have 
Ubuntu 8.04.1+LTSP5.

2 servers, both have 2 x Dual Core Xeon and 6G memory. LAN is fast. We 
have 113 thin clients, HP t5125/5135.

Here is video about one classroom (12 thin clients) on the other day. 
First some 2D games, then Gimp and then Flash games on the Internet.

http://blip.tv/file/1227903/

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Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:
 kjetil knudsen kirjoitti:
 
 We have also the exact same experience. We are a big school with over 
 400 clients and 9 servers that run Ubuntu Hardy. [8] I really like 
 Ubuntu, but we have to have a system that really works and that you can 
 trust beeing used by hundreds of pupils. K12LTSP did this
 
 This proves anything... 
 
 http://blip.tv/file/1227903/

This means my video about one classroom (12/113 thin clients), not 
your whole post, Kjetil.

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Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Daniel Hunt kirjoitti:

 Sorry to sidestep the thread here, but what thin clients do you use?

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Asmo Koskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 2 servers, both have 2 x Dual Core Xeon and 6G memory. LAN is fast. We
 have 113 thin clients, HP t5125/5135.

HP t5125, 5135.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/12454-12454-321959-338927-89307-472257.html
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/12454-12454-321959-338927-89307-3341342.html

Some interesting off the road stuff:

http://marc.info/?l=ltsp-developerm=122051383905765w=2
http://pastebot.ltsp.org/59

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Re: Is it just me, or is LTSP a mess?

2008-09-09 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Richard Doyle kirjoitti:

 Are you using LDM_DIRECTX=yes ?

Yes, here are my lts.conf files for master and slave servers.

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5-Mantykangas/ltsp-master/lts.conf
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5-Mantykangas/ltsp-slave/lts.conf

They are same ;-).

I have also made this for Firefox (3.0.1).

http://www.mail-archive.com/edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com/msg04351.html

Here is something to watch, htop for both servers on the other day.

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5-Mantykangas/htop-master.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5-Mantykangas/htop-slave.png

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