RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Excellent job Mike! And if someone doesn't like bass all they need do is adjust the EQ. Now we have a choice. No, adjusting the EQ messes up digital modes. In addition, additional bandwidth below 200 Hz makes the signal illegal on 60 meters where the occupied bandwidth is specified at

[Elecraft] K3: FW issue, XVTR operation TX power settings

2008-05-05 Thread Thomas Ries
Hi, With latest (MCU 1.88 / DSP 1.70) FW (and also versions sbefore) I have the following strange behavior in transverter operation: K3 SN 533 Using an XV144, set up as XVTR1, 1mW drive power. Tune PWR is set to fixed 5.0 (Config Menu) When I switch to the transverter band and do TAP TUNE, a

[Elecraft] K3 #850 is alive

2008-05-05 Thread Jay Bromley
Well K3 #850 is alive and well. Only two problems, KBPF3 filter PCB had L18 snapped off and one lead was cut. So I unsoldered the remaining lead, rewound it, resoldered it to the board, and installed the board at the same time as the KPA3. The other problem was a small scratch on the bottom

Re: [Elecraft] K3: New firmware will get a few corrections shortly

2008-05-05 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hi Wayne, On 4 May 2008 at 13:35, wayne burdick wrote: I'll do another posting as soon as revised firmware is ready. Thanks for all the quick feedback. thank you for the quick help and open communication on the list. this is unusual these days but gives me a good feeling. A great radio

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW Upload Crash

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Baker
No need to be embarrassed Chris, the same thing happened to me. I found that things got screwed up with the microkeyer router software which had set the virtual com port at 9.6k instead of 38.4k. I then used a proper RS232 port and lead, and all went well. To get in a good state, remove the

[Elecraft] Hanging on to your K3

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Rolfe
As the world gets ever more populated by the K3 there must come a time when we see a message here reporting K3 s/n *** has been stolen - fingers crossed it won't be K3 145. It occurred to me that being software driven, it should be possible to password protect the K3 in such a way to prevent

Re: [Elecraft] Hanging on to your K3

2008-05-05 Thread Ian J Maude
Stewart Rolfe wrote: As the world gets ever more populated by the K3 there must come a time when we see a message here reporting K3 s/n *** has been stolen - fingers crossed it won't be K3 145. Remember that the rig's serial number is embedded in the Firmware Stewart. 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude,

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Loss of rx signal

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Baker
Rick, In one way I am sorry to hear that you have a problem with occasional loss of RX after TX, however I am pleased that I am now not the only one to report this problem ! I was hoping that the new F/W releases would rid my K3 of this annoying phenomenon, but that did not happen... I have a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Windy Dankoff KM5Q wrote: I like using the K3 for shortwave listening. I would rather not be required to buy the FM xtal filter to get the full bandwidth on AM. Will this change with future revisions? How can you have an IF bandwidth wider than 6KHz without using a filter that's wider

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Mike Scott-7 wrote: I am surprised to hear that people don't like the extra bandwidth in the audio response in the K3. Because people use their radios in different ways. Some of us don't want to waste energy generating frequencies that add nothing to the ability to be heard when signals

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
KM5Q wrote: I like using the K3 for shortwave listening. I would rather not be required to buy the FM xtal filter to get the full bandwidth on AM. Will this change with future revisions? I don't understand the question; it seems to me to be a matter of physics. A roofing filter is needed to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-05 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hi Wayne, On 4 May 2008 at 11:48, wayne burdick wrote: Will TX EQ be made mode and/or input dependent? Setting TX EQ for voice screws up the audio response for digital mode (AFSK A and DATA A) operation. The same is true for RX EQ. I believe both RX and TX EQ are bypassed in DATA

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-05 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: wider than necessary. With the FM filter, the 4.2 KHz high cut is less than the 10 KHZ of IF bandwidth. Why is the IF bandwidth and audio response excessively restricted with the FM filter? It should be possible to achieve at least 12 KHz of IF bandwidth and 6 KHz or

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash

2008-05-05 Thread G3SJJ
Altered the subject to Download! Well, one step forward, two steps back! After several emails from Wayne lst night, and during his Sunday afternoon I should add, so thanks, Wayne last night, I decided to switch off. I had managed to get the download done OK but transmitted audio wasn't

[Elecraft] K3:VSWR meter readings?

2008-05-05 Thread Craig
Anyone else observe this on their K3? I terminate my K3 in a perfect dummy load. I then repeatedly test under SSB voice, then without reason it appears as if the K3;s VSWR meter spikes upwards to a higher reading. It seems to do it on every 4th or 5th voice peak. It seems to settle down

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Craig
If I could make my K3 sound like its using a Heil HC4 cartridge I would be happy. The Heil HC4 audio sound is ESSB for me! Maybe at sometime in the future transmitting through the 2.1khz filter on SSB will be made possible. A further refinement of carrier point adjustment combined with an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash- Sorted

2008-05-05 Thread G3SJJ
Grateful thanks to Mal G4KFT who reminded me that I should set mHam Keyer to No Radio. K3 working, latest downloads installed, sounding really, really good. Phew!! 73 Chris G3SJJ G3SJJ wrote: Altered the subject to Download! Well, one step forward, two steps back! After several emails

[Elecraft] MCU 1.88 / DSP 1.70

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Baker
Wayne and Team, Many thanks for your sterling efforts on the latest firmware. After sorting out an upload problem the end result is a radio which as some might say in |England is cooking with Gas ! I can't comment the number of changes made to modes such as AM, FM and Data which are not my

Re: [Elecraft] K3 #850 is alive

2008-05-05 Thread Jim Cox
The broken wire on the toroid seems to be a common problem. Are steps being taken to add some support for this component during shipping? Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: Jay Bromley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:49 AM Subject:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 #850 is alive

2008-05-05 Thread Jay Bromley
Hi Jim, Yes, Wayne says they are going to support L18 with some RTV or something similar like the ones on the PA. In a weird way I think this was meant to be, I haven't built one of Wayne's rigs yet without winding a toriod, hihi. 73 de jay/w5jay.. The broken wire on the toroid seems to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread KM5Q
My widest filter is 2.8. I am allowed to widen the DSP to 4. So why not in AM, for BC receiving, be allowed wide enough for high fidelity, without a roofing (or xmit) filter? (AM can be widened to 10, but it sounds narrow and muffled) I get much better bandwidth (fidelity) now using SSB to

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: S Sacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're not broadcasters, we're communicators. That's true. But there are all sorts of communication! That extra frequency response takes away from the spectrum available for our fellow Amateurs. Hold that thought Don't even

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Baker
Why not an LC filter for AM reception instead of an expensive crystal roofing filter ? 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 05 May 2008 08:29:29 -0600, KM5Q wrote: My widest filter is 2.8. I am allowed to widen the DSP to 4. So why not in AM, for BC receiving, be allowed wide enough for high fidelity,

RE: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash

2008-05-05 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The last item in USB to Serial Adapter Troubleshooting part of K3 Utility Help was provided to me by W4TV, microHAM's US distributor. The microHAM router gets in the way of K3 Firmware loads unless you change the radio type in the microHAM router to None. The K3's boot loader (the permanent

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Dave Martin
On 5/5/08, Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not an LC filter for AM reception instead of an expensive crystal roofing filter ? That's what I did. I cut a scrap of PC board to the size of a filter and used three toroids with tuning and coupling caps. It worked just fine in position

RE: [Elecraft] Hanging on to your K3

2008-05-05 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I'd prefer not to make firmware loading any more difficult than it is already. Whatever layers we added could either be defeated by a persistent and technologically savvy thief or would cause the real owner real grief should something go awry. Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Baker
Blast ! you got there before me Dave. I have been modeling some suitable LC filters, but as you say they are a bit wide for transmit. However looking back in my log shows that I haven't had an AM QSO for 10's of years, so it's unlikely I will have one now. :-) 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 5 May 2008

RE: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash

2008-05-05 Thread Stewart Baker
Thanks, that's good info. It is certainly easier to select the radio type to None than mess around changing serial cables. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:53:43 -0600, Dick Dievendorff wrote: The last item in USB to Serial Adapter Troubleshooting part of K3 Utility Help was provided to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
... I sure wouldn't transmit with it, though. It's hugely wide, offering no attenuation of unwanted mixer products. If the filter is too wide, then poor 15 kHz image rejection, aliasing and other unwanted things might happen in Rx. The DSP depends on bandwidth limiting prior to digitizing,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Download Problems. Hopefully solved.

2008-05-05 Thread David Yarnes
Gads! I never would have thought of trying that! I can't wait for someone to give a logical explanation of what the problem could have been. I'm afraid all that tells me is that the wall socket you were using initially may have a problem. Have you checked it? Dave W7AQK - Original

[Elecraft] K3 - Latest firmware (last nite) FM test results, not good for U.S.

2008-05-05 Thread J. Heide
I brought the K3 (#722) to work today once again, this time to check the FM operation of the radio. I had calibrated the oscillator a couple of weeks ago, and it has only drifted 16Hz since then! Measurements taken on the same equipment, same freq standard Motorola 2670, Spectracom 8195A. My FM

[Elecraft] Low SSB Output

2008-05-05 Thread Roy Morris
Wayne, Currently with the newly released firmware it still takes about 60 watts to drive my Alpha 99 to 1 KW (not 1.5KW) on SSB. Twenty eight watts is all that is necessary on my Omni VII to drive my amp to 1 KW on SSB. Twenty eight watts on the K3 delivers approximately 400 watts SSB on

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Jerry Flanders
Sounds good for SWL. Only downside (a minor one, IMO) is that you might get response from images 30 KHz away. How much weaker is a signal when you tune to its image 30 KHz up/down? Jerry W4UK At 11:01 AM 5/5/2008, Dave Martin wrote: On 5/5/08, Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not

[Elecraft] Low K3 SSB Output

2008-05-05 Thread Roy Morris
Thanks Wayne for 1.88 firmware. I will download it this afternoon. I was using 1.87 when I referred to low SSB output. Roy Morris W4WFB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Dave Martin
Blast ! you got there before me Dave. I have been modeling some suitable LC filters, but as you say they are a bit wide for transmit. However looking back in my log shows that I haven't had an AM QSO for 10's of years, so it's unlikely I will have one now. :-) 73 Stewart G3RXQ I had

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
2) No one has come up with a proposal to ban it that hasn't generated overwhelming opposition from the amateur community. Not true ... nobody has been able to make a proposal without being shouted down by a bunch of AM and ESSB zealots. Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth

RE: [Elecraft] K3 FW Download Crash

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Thanks, that's good info. It is certainly easier to select the radio type to None than mess around changing serial cables. The alternative to none is to check the Disable Router Queries box. With that checked, Router will not do any polling while The K3 Utility has the port open. That

[Elecraft] VFO AB

2008-05-05 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
Hello, When using the button AB (VFO info transfer) the mode from A is not transferred to B. Was that supposed to be so or asked for? Especially now when CW is possible in SSB mode, you might not notice it when B was on SSB and you quickly want to transfer CW info to B for split operation.

Re: [Elecraft] VFO AB

2008-05-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
When using the button AB (VFO info transfer) the mode from A is not transferred to B. With the new firmware, the first tap of AB only transfers the frequency. A second tap or AB within 2 seconds of the first tap tells the radio to transfer the other settings associated with VFO A (mode,

[Elecraft] K3 - Latest firmware (last nite) FM test results, not good for U.S.

2008-05-05 Thread Dave G4AON
Josh Elecraft need to see how other manufacturers configure their transceivers... The TS480, which covers the same bands as a K3, has wide/narrow TX deviation which toggles between the two when the FIL/Nar button is held down, this switches between 2.5 KHz and 5 KHz maximum deviation and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread Dave Martin
On 5/5/08, Jerry Flanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good for SWL. Only downside (a minor one, IMO) is that you might get response from images 30 KHz away. How much weaker is a signal when you tune to its image 30 KHz up/down? Jerry W4UK I can't hear anything, Jerry, even from our

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread n2ey
-Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. On what information do you make this claim? 73 de Jim, N2EY

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 12:00:51 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. On what

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Download Problems. Hopefully solved.

2008-05-05 Thread Bob Cunnings
Could be a ground loop problem. At the factory we have had trouble with ground loops upsetting RS232 communication between the device under test and the test controller PC... and are careful about our AC mains power arrangements. We try to keep all AC power cords for test gear, PC, etc. on the

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. -- Oh really? Well, I guess I'm not part of most then. I'm a CW op but I'm thrilled these

[Elecraft] K2/KPA100/KAT100

2008-05-05 Thread jimbrass
I have the following for sale: K2 #5731 with KNB2, KSB2, K160RX, and KDSP2 - $975 KPA100 - $350 KAT100 - $225 Includes all manuals and cables. Also have the VCO shielding mod for the K2 and a new headphone jack. Will sell entire package for $1500 and ship free. The

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Ian J Maude
Darwin, Keith wrote: I think it makes a lot of sense (a LOT) to say narrow bandwidth signals at the low end of the band, wide signals at the top, mids in the middle. If someone wants to run ESSB at 5 KHz, that's fine, we'll allocate some space at the high end of the band so they can play have

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 5, 2008, at 1:35 AM, G4ILO wrote: Mike Scott-7 wrote: I am surprised to hear that people don't like the extra bandwidth in the audio response in the K3. Because people use their radios in different ways. Some of us don't want to waste energy generating frequencies that add

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
I feel lots of heat but very little light on this subject here. Just different wavelengths of the same thing, Brian. And if you are fast enough and in the right direction, you can shift either to the other, can't you? Next we will talk about how it is ALL digital, that there is no such

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Latest firmware (last nite) FM test results, not good for U.S.

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Dave G4AON wrote: Elecraft need to see how other manufacturers configure their transceivers... The TS480, which covers the same bands as a K3, has wide/narrow TX deviation which toggles between the two when the FIL/Nar button is held down, this switches between 2.5 KHz and 5 KHz maximum

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Stewart G3RXQ wrote: Why not an LC filter for AM reception instead of an expensive crystal roofing filter ? I was going to suggest that, then I thought of the points Lyle made and guessed that it wouldn't work. But if it works well enough for casual listening and people are willing to

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Bob Serwy
I do not transmit AM or ESSB and I do not want it baned. Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject:

[Elecraft] Knob shaft and pot issues

2008-05-05 Thread Bob K9PAG
My kit K3 #818 came with the shafts on the four small dual function knobs lose and the associated pots feeling like they were gritty when turned. Sure not as smooth and nice as my ICOM 746! Wonder how many #800 units experienced this problem or is it just me? The lose shafts and gritty

Re: [Elecraft] VFO AB

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Lyle KK7P wrote: With the new firmware, the first tap of AB only transfers the frequency. A second tap or AB within 2 seconds of the first tap tells the radio to transfer the other settings associated with VFO A (mode, etc.). This is in the release notes, but easy to miss with all the

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread ab2tc
I don't think there is any doubt that Elecraft will not satisfy everybody until the transmit bandwidth is made fully customizable, just like the receiver. I understand that this is also Elecraft's intention. It would seem to make sense to have a CONFIG option that works just like the hi/lo cut

[Elecraft] Problems after downloading latest firmware

2008-05-05 Thread Roger
After downloading 1.88/1.70 firmware, I have had problems. First, I noticed that the receiver came and went on 40M. Then, I switched to 20M and noticed aERR PL1 message and found that 20M receive was also acting strange in the same way. I looked up the ERR PL1 code in

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Brian Lloyd
On May 5, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: I feel lots of heat but very little light on this subject here. Just different wavelengths of the same thing, Brian. Well, not quite. It doesn't get to be the same thing until AFTER the vibrational energy in the bonds is reemitted as

Re: [Elecraft] Knob shaft and pot issues

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Bob K9PAG wrote: My kit K3 #818 came with the shafts on the four small dual function knobs lose and the associated pots feeling like they were gritty when turned. Sure not as smooth and nice as my ICOM 746! Wonder how many #800 units experienced this problem or is it just me? The lose

[Elecraft] CW to DATA with paddle

2008-05-05 Thread IK2HKT - Sten
Hi guys, today I tried to use my paddle trasmitting in FSK mode as mentioned on the manual at page 32. The TX and RX decode work very well but I found trouble using IM (immediatly exit) or BT (extented timeout). Pratically speaking the above two command don't work ... after write some words the

[Elecraft] SSB output with new firmware

2008-05-05 Thread Ian J Maude
Hi all, I installed the latest firmware this morning but have only just got around to testing. To be sure, I reset the radio and started the at the beginning, calibration and all. Having done all of that I set the CONFIG:TXG VCE menu item to 3.0 dB. The rig now almost gets to the set power on

[Elecraft] Hanging on to your K3

2008-05-05 Thread George
How many low life thieves would be familiar with the K3, let alone whether it was protected by a PIN #? I think very few, if any. I see very little value in a PIN #, insofar as its serving as a deterrent to theft is concerned. But then, maybe thieves are more sophisticated than I give them

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Roar Dehli
Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. Unfortunately, certain special interest groups continue to drive the debate. Hi. There are also a lot of radio amateurs that are concerned about the fact that

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 1.88 / DSP 1.70

2008-05-05 Thread G4ILO
Stewart G3RXQ wrote: Wayne and Team, Many thanks for your sterling efforts on the latest firmware. After sorting out an upload problem the end result is a radio which as some might say in |England is cooking with Gas ! I can't comment the number of changes made to modes such as AM, FM

[Elecraft] Push one primary control button and the rest move inward!

2008-05-05 Thread Bob K9PAG
My kit K3 #818 has what appears to be a defect. The defect may be by design or just in my radio. When I push one of the 9 multi-function controls (the 9 buttons to the immediate left of the display) the 8 other buttons move inward too. Not a lot but one can see it happen. I suspect this is a

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 1.88 / DSP 1.70

2008-05-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
I noticed that the LINE IN input is less sensitive with this version. We increased the resolution of the MIC and LINE IN controls, so you need a higher setting, in the vicinity of 3x, for the same net gain. However, I'm still finding that in DATA A mode when I feed in a pure tone I'm only

Re: [Elecraft] CW to DATA with paddle

2008-05-05 Thread Vic K2VCO
IK2HKT - Sten wrote: The TX and RX decode work very well but I found trouble using IM (immediatly exit) or BT (extented timeout). Pratically speaking the above two command don't work ... after write some words Make sure you are sending IM or BT as one character -- no space between the 'I'

Re: [Elecraft] Push one primary control button and the rest move inward!

2008-05-05 Thread Ken K3IU
On K3 #202 I get no perceptible movement of the other 8 push buttons when I tap or press/hold with normal force on any one of the other 9 buttons. You might want to take a look at your assembly process and make sure that you have the correct spacers/washers. etc., in the proper places. 73,

Re: [Elecraft] Knob shaft and pot issues

2008-05-05 Thread KM5Q
My #764 wasn't missing anything. I'm left with an extra pile of spare hardware, so I could have dropped a tiny screw and been OK. My dual-pots have only slight play. They turn smoothly. I think they switched vendor and should watch for this! My rig worked fine at first power-up. Windy KM5Q

[Elecraft] K3 Firmware Download Problems. Hopefully solved.

2008-05-05 Thread Mike
Yep - I suspect it was a ground loop problem here between the 2 mains outlets. 73 de Mike, zl1mh. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

Re: [Elecraft] Knob shaft and pot issues

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Malloy
K3 #584 must have had the old audio pots which are fantastic -- they have a solid feel to them and coupled with the knobs (which sorta add to the old-timey flavor) it reminds me of knobs on my Drake 2B or an old Hallicrafters radio! Joe, W2RBA KM5Q wrote: My #764 wasn't missing anything.

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Roar Dehli
I am surprised to hear that people don't like the extra bandwidth in the audio response in the K3. For me I have been reluctant to check into a regular rag chew net until I could have some extra low frequency response. I knew that the K3 wouldn't measure up and I didn't want the K3 to be seen

[Elecraft] K3 - Roofing filter for SWLing

2008-05-05 Thread jpk5lad
I read, with interest, the discussion about the K3's inability to copy (or perhaps a better way to say it is to reproduce the audio of) shortwave broadcast stations well without a wide FM filter. I just wondered if there is not, or could not be made, a provision to have no roofing filter for

Re: [Elecraft] Perfect K3 Speaker

2008-05-05 Thread Roar Dehli
Hi Bruce, For communications bandwidths, a sturdy 4-ohm, 3 or 4 diameter mobile speaker (non-powered) does a great job. For a bit more fidelity and to take advantage of the K3's stereo speaker outputs, I use a pair of good quality bookshelf-style speakers (again, non-powered). Right

[Elecraft] Good Amateur Practice (WAS: Bass in audio is good)

2008-05-05 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Most HF users want AM and ESSB (occupied bandwidth greater than required for communications quality - 2.6 to 2.8 KHz) banned. Unfortunately, certain special interest groups continue to drive the debate. Yes, and they're called Hams or Amateur Radio Operators, too. The same debate was

[Elecraft] Is it just me or ......

2008-05-05 Thread Lee Buller
Really folksI am getting more and more behind the curve here with the K3 and all the updates. What is working? What is not working? Or...maybe I should ask What is working for some people and not for others? I am rather confused as to where we are with the K3 firmware. I know a

[Elecraft] K3 Firmware 1.88

2008-05-05 Thread Roy Morris
I am happy to say that firmware v.1.88 appears to have corrected my low output on SSB. I went to CONFIG: TXG VCE [T] and dialed in 1.5 dB. That brought up my SSB peak power to 100 watts with 100 watts of TUNE power. Thanks Wayne. This K3 rocks!!! Roy Morris W4WFB K3 #323

[Elecraft] (no subject)

2008-05-05 Thread Paul Kelly
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FM filter required for full AM receive width

2008-05-05 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Jerry Flanders wrote: for SWL. Only downside (a minor one, IMO) is that you might get response from images 30 KHz away. How much weaker is a signal when you tune to its image 30 KHz up/down? Less than 30kHz. The whole point of the exercise is to use wide filters, so, assuming that the

Re: [Elecraft] Is it just me or ......

2008-05-05 Thread ab2tc
No, it's not just you. Count me in as well. I am in the same boat as you. I don't care that much about AM and FM although I do ultimately want it, but I do want SSB to work at full power. I am also worried that the extension down to 200Hz is just waisting power that contributes very little to

Re: [Elecraft] Knob shaft and pot issues

2008-05-05 Thread ab2tc
My two concentric pots have a very good feel to them (serno #82). The four dual function controls are not pots but shaft encoders. They have a little wobble in them, but I don't find it objectonable. The gritty feel I am sure is intentional; these are indents indicating each new encoder position.

Re: [Elecraft] SSB output with new firmware

2008-05-05 Thread Don Ehrlich
Ian et al, I did the same thing but found out later that my SSB audio sounded a little gravelly as if I was overdriving early stages of the mic audio amplifier. This was true even with no bars of ALC showing and with both my MH2 mic and another backup microphone. After a lot of tests and

[Elecraft] VOX sensitivity problem with new firmware

2008-05-05 Thread KM0O
Before this latest firmware release, I would have said that the K3's VOX is the smoothest and finest I've ever used. But now, even with the sensitivity at 100 (max), I cannot get it to hold in without speaking rather loudly. Has anyone else noticed this? The antivox setting has no effect. --

[Elecraft] K3 Single Band SWR problem

2008-05-05 Thread Craig D. Smith
My first real problem (or operator error?) with K3 SN 608 just occurred. I got on 20 CW with my usual antenna (a resonant dipole) and the K3 is showing a 2:1 SWR and folding back power. I bypass the tuner with this antenna since its SWR is in the 1.2 to 1.3 range. My external SWR meter shows

Re: [Elecraft] VOX sensitivity problem with new firmware

2008-05-05 Thread Lee Buller
I noticed the same thing that I have to speak louder or set the gain up higher for the VOX since the last upgrade. Lee - K0WA Sure hate to complain In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If

Re: [Elecraft] Knob shaft and pot issues

2008-05-05 Thread Andrew Faber
Knut, I agree. I like the gritty feel, as it is consistent with these functions being changed in discrete steps, not continually. 73, andy, ae6y - Original Message - From: ab2tc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Elecraft] VOX sensitivity problem with new firmware

2008-05-05 Thread Mike N8XPQ
I have just tried the VOX, and I have noticed it as well. I turned the VOX gain up to 100 and it did then in fact TX, but I too had to speak quite loudly to get it to hold. I very rarely use VOX, so it would have been quite some to most likely before I would have noticed that. I am sure this will

Re: [Elecraft] CW to DATA with paddle

2008-05-05 Thread Tom Hammond
Sten: At 11:55 05/05/2008, IK2HKT - Sten wrote: Hi guys, today I tried to use my paddle trasmitting in FSK mode as mentioned on the manual at page 32. The TX and RX decode work very well but I found trouble using IM (immediatly exit) or BT (extented timeout). Pratically speaking the above

RE: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
'Information rate' is I suppose the let-out. Information rate is not a let out in analog voice. I would have thought that the use of ESSB would come close to breaking the rules on Emission Standards as imposed by some regulators, e.g. FCC Amateur Rules section 97.307 which says in part

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread John
More Bass on my fish stringer, is better. John k7up ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

[Elecraft] K3 ERR VCO after loading new firmware and doing VCO CAL

2008-05-05 Thread wayne burdick
If you see ERR VCO on VFO B after attempting a VCO CAL, it could indicate that the new firmware load process did not complete. Specifically, some data needed by the K3's synthesizer may be missing. It is stored in something called the FPF (front panel flash memory). If you see these errors --

RE: [Elecraft] VOX sensitivity problem with new firmware

2008-05-05 Thread N2TK
Hi Lee, I just noticed that too. I now have to set mike gain at 45 and vox gain at 100 and speak above my normal voice so the VOX doesn't trip out with an HC4. By the way, I did not save the former upgrades. Since I didn't do that is there an easy way to go backwards with an upgrade? Tnx N2TK,

[Elecraft] VOX Sensitivity With V1.88 Firmware

2008-05-05 Thread Roy Morris
I also have noticed that VOX gain needs to be increased to hold in. I hope that will be addressed in a future firmware upgrade. Roy Morris W4WFB K3 #323 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post

[Elecraft] (no subject)

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Stofko
Josh, K6ZRX wrote: -My FM measurements were as follows: -Frequency was 52.525, did not check 10 meters. -12Db SINAD .47uV -113.4dBm -Looses squelch (13) takes .79uV -109.0dBm to break -Squelch closes at .33uV -116.5dBm -Max modulation acceptance 4.90kHz -TX CTCSS deviation .3kHz (at 114.8Hz)

Re: [Elecraft] VFO AB

2008-05-05 Thread David Yarnes
Julian and All, This kind of thing emphasizes the value of something I suggested previously. I think the manual should be downloadable in Word, or some equivalent, and then updated by just revising the individual pages. A revision page would be designated by the page number plus an

re: [Elecraft] K3 - Latest firmware (last nite) FM test results, not good for U.S.

2008-05-05 Thread Joe Stofko
Sorry for the last incomplete post. Josh, K6ZRX wrote: - My FM measurements were as follows: Frequency was 52.525, did not check 10 meters. 12Db SINAD .47uV -113.4dBm Looses squelch (13) takes .79uV -109.0dBm to break Squelch closes at .33uV -116.5dBm Max modulation acceptance 4.90kHz TX CTCSS

[Elecraft] Listen for GM4ESD on the 40m Elecraft SSB net tonight

2008-05-05 Thread KM5Q
Gents, Come join the net and listen for Geoff. I have thunderous sky here, but I'll do my best (?) Windy KM5Q K3 #674 Good evening Windy, 40m almost woke up here last night, good contacts into Chile etc. If I can stay awake I shall be listening / calling on 7.190 MHz +- tomorrw morning

[Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Hi Joe, I don't run ESSB here BUT...I prefer the revised K3 firmware as it now is. Apparently many others feel the same based on responses in this thread. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and the rest of us to ours as well. 73 de N1LQ-Dave

[Elecraft] Manuals

2008-05-05 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, David Yarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I think the manual should be downloadable in Word, Gosh, I sincerely hope not, David; I for one do not wish to have to start installing another Microsoft product. How about Corel WordPerfect? No! Let's stick with Adobe Acrobat

Re: [Elecraft] Bass in audio is good

2008-05-05 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 5/5/08 5:14:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many years ago Bell Labs (and others) proved rather thoroughly that 2.4 to 2.6 KHz was more than adequately for communications purposes. Their tests were specifically in relation to toll grade audio for

[Elecraft] FM test results - not good for U.S.

2008-05-05 Thread Ken Kopp
I'm a retired career two-way radio tech and I'll add a me too to Joe's FM-mode observations below. He's correct. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP I no longer work in the 2-way field... so I don't have easy access to a Communications service monitor, but I can say that on-air tests on a 6-meter

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