Brett -I prefer CW monitoring exactly as it is on the K3. It is so easy
to alter the level with the MON control and it can be done very quickly.
In a recent message, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
Just out of curosity what do you gentlemen prefer? Do you like things
better the way
Another warning!
A few years ago I used a catapult and a drilled golf ball with some braided
nylon line over an oak tree. When it became stuck in a branch, I wound the line
round a piece of wood and gave it my full weight to release it. The end result?
I literally shot myself in the foot,
Jon Kåre Hellan wrote:
It's http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.html - with an 'l' at
the end.
That's better.
Note that anyone thinking of using this in England might be advised to
consult with the local police as it might be interpreted as being an air
rifle, in which case the
I agree that the AF Gain and Monitor should be as they are, individually
controlled. In a recent issue of either QST or National Contest Journal
there was an article discussing the effect of contesting on your hearing.
One suggestion to minimize ear fatigue was to have your monitor level as low
as
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they are
about the same level. Why would anyone want a fixed sidetone level? Changing
from speaker to headphones requires readjustment of the sidetone level. When
the xyl turns on the washing machine, I have to turn up the AF
In a recent message, n4lq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they
are about the same level.
...
Many of us with Omni VI's performed a simple mod that allowed sidetone
to track with the AF gain.
Yes, Steve, but on here we're talking
n4lq wrote:
CW sidetone should follow the AF gain control and be adjustable so they
are about the same level.
IMO absolutely not. Sidetone level should have a separate level adjust.
73 Jim SM2EKM
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This is Alan's site (as is the previous posting). I whole heartedly recommend
the CSV-19. It is simple to use and effective, particularly if you have tall
trees.
I've tried most of the other suggested methods, and while most will work to
some degree or another, they usually take multiple tries
In my very limited experience in building and operating radios (50 Years) I
always assumed that turning a control to the right increased something (Volume,
Frequency, RF Gain, ECT.) When operating the filter width control on the K3, I
assumed that the filter (DSP in this case) would increase
Bill W4ZV wrote:
I hesitate to interrupt the flow of OT trivia but here's something that's
actually useful:
http://www.eterlogic.com/Products.VSPE.html
This small free program allows you to create multiple connections to one
serial port used by your K3. For example, my old P3
Thank you very nice software
73
Serge
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I do have the K3 and know how to adjust the sidetone. I just prefer having
the AF gain and sidetone track to one control. Also, I like to be able to
adjust the sidetone level while sending CW which you can't do on the K3.
When you push the mon button you get a constant sidetone. You
I don't adjust the sidetone level very often. Not sure I'd like to
have it vary with the AF Gain. I think I like having it as a reference
audio level. Mine is set at 25.
What I would like is the option to adjust the PITCH without hearing
the sidetone. In other words, listening to a weak signal I
Again I agree. Changing the sidetone level or pitch requires us to listen to
the constant tone which covers up everything. I think the intent was good
but a bit impractical.
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I have to agree with Steve on this. I'm a CW operator.
I would like to have the sidetone track volume, while
still being able to adjust the mix ratio, preferably
while working CW.
After FD this year one fellow asked me an excellent
question: What don't you like about the K3?
I had been answering
What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does it work? If it is just
another roofing filters, why not just use the 6.0 filter?
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The
only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I
kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it
clockwise...
Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way.
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I too am a CW operator but I greatly prefer the sidetone NOT track with
the AF gain control. I want them separate so that I can adjust the mix
on the fly. Rather than trying to adjust sidetone volume, I set it and
leave it alone. If I want more sidetone, I turn the AF gain down which
is simple
Joe -
You're confusing the band pass filtering (allow 20 meter band into
the radio) with roofing / IF filters (allow this narrow slice of
spectrum into the radio).
On 7/28/08, Joe Word [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does it work? If it is just
I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way to
rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you that
clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater than
that always wants me to turn it clockwise to go narrow. Everyone up here
Joe asked:
What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does it work? If it is
just
another roofing filters, why not just use the 6.0 filter?
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It's not, Joe. The KBPF3 provides additional receiver input bandpass
filters.
The input
At 10:30 AM 07/28/08, Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote:
At first I thought this was maybe just a Canuck thing and I was
too embarrassed to speak about it. Then I wondered if it was my
advancing age, and I didn't want to talk about that either. Today,
however, I am comforted to know that I/we
Sorry for the off-topic post, but my W3FPR email account has been down
and will be that way until my ISP gets it fixed - they prommise sometime
in the next 20 hours! But PROMISES, PROMISES
I am not currently getting any reflector messages as a result.
If anyone sent an email direct to me
Before you put your waking shoes on, consider that just maybe I'm the
weird one LOL!
By turning down the AF gain, I'm increasing the sidetone-to-band-noise
ratio, making the sidetone easier to hear. This assumes the sidetone is
loud enough but is being masked by the loud band noise since the AF
Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO.
I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to
hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level
when I start sending, as would be the case if sidetone level tracked
the AF gain. I don't want to have
Are you running the latest firmware? I found that in the 2.20 that I'm
running Wayne has added a bit of code that prevents the rig from TXing
immediately upon power up. You get an ERR PTT upon power up. Then when
you remove the PTT source you get an ERR KEY for a short bit then things
go back
Good point and there's probably no one answer to this therefore it should be
made configurable.
At least, the constant tone feature for level and pitch should be optional.
Basically, if I could just reach for a knob and turn it when I want to
change sidetone level during a QSO, I would be
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, Bob Cunnings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Folks,
After reading all the posts to date on this topic, I have decided what my
opinion is:
Go ahead and change it, but if you do, please add another feature that allows
myself and others who would surely not like it at
After reading posts here I'm not 100% sure what my opinion is... I'm pretty
happy either way... I was mostly curious to hear what the peanut gallery
thought. Seems this is another one that everyone is different on...
Thankfully its also another one that is easy to deal with if its not the way
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0600, Bob Cunnings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sidetone level should be independently adjustable IMO.
I use headphones. When operating QSK, if I've run up the AF gain to
hear a weak station, I don't want to be blasted by high sidetone level
when I start sending, as
Just wanted to post this but I had 2.16 installed for a bit and found
that while in SSB I would often loose audio while transmitting. I had
to switch back into RX then into TX to get audio to work again.
This could be either in or out of TX test mode. I then downgraded to
current production
A strange heading for a debate about which way to turn a knob HI!
For reasons I don't understand, it's my instinct to turn the width knob
clockwise to narrow the filter.
Perhaps as I want more narrowing my instinct tells me that clockwise = more,
but then that
argument collapses when I
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The
only one I had trouble with was the WIDTH control. For some reason I
kept expecting the filter b/w to become narrower as I turned it
clockwise...
Same here. That's the only knob that I consistently turn the wrong way.
Agreed. I think it has to do witht he fact
Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote:
I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way
to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you
that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater
than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to
Brett,
I agree with you that the possibility could be in the menu. For me, it is
not necessary because I listen mostly on headphones. But as you say, using
the rig in loud circumstances with people around our K3 's, the K1 way would
be very good solution.
73 's Steef PA2A
K2 4654
K3 1184
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Allow the PITCH to be changed without having to listen to the tone or
with the tone.
Allow the sidetone level to be changed without having to listen to it
or with the tone..
Allow the sidetone to be independently controlled (and be able to change
it while you are transmitting) or
Hello to the group. I hope everyone is enjoying their K3 as much as I. I
got on AM Sunday morning for the first time. All those on the net said that
the K3 sounded great. I wonder if anyone else has used their K3 on AM and
have any suggestions as to power levels and carrier levels and if
The ARRL Antenna Book suggests using a pulley and counter weight to allow for
the varying distances between trees caused by wind. At my former QTH, Ellijay
GA, I noticed that in very gusty conditions sometimes the support trees moved
in opposite directions at the same time. I decided to make my
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:07 PM
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(Snip) But the point I want to make is that if this is a change for you,
you will
My G5RV is up in the oak trees here and is attached using springs at each
end. They are about 12 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. Been up for a
couple of years with no problems.
Brian
N1WNC
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Steve,
On AM, your carrier power should be about 25% of the peak transmitter power.
For a K3, which runs 120W output, this means that the carrier output should
be about 30W. I believe the K3 automatically sets the correct
carrier-to-peak power ratio, so that when you scale back the K3's power
I'd been meaning to ask for a while; what is the motivation for those
of you who have ordered the general coverage receiver option? i.e. what
makes it worth the extra $129 ??
~Iain
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote on 07/28/08 07:35:
Joe asked:
What is the General Coverage Receive Filter, how does
I use a reel with 6 lb line and a wrist rocket from Walmart with a lead
fishing weight. Lay the reel on the ground and shoot the weight over the top
of the tree. I try to avoid large limbs. You want the line over the soft
bushy limbs. They act as a spring or shock absorber. Use the line to
Best and easiest way to shoot antenna is here:
I've also seen potatoes and golf balls used successfully.
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One important note - Like most ham rigs, the K3 is officially specified
at 100W. While the control turns up to 120W, and most rigs will go above
above 100w, they will not make that power level on all units on all
bands. Above 100W it is not guaranteed to meet all specifications.
73, Eric
With close to 40 posts in the last couple of days on these topics, we've
saturated this area. Let's let it rest for now. :-)
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You must be a
Ian
Besides casual listening around the HF bands, it turns
the K3 into another piece of test equipment in the shack.
The K3 calibration is pretty darn good, so you can
measure the frequency of a signal and be very close
to its absolute frequency. Or just listen to an oscillator
that operates
Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and forget it, since we
use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal.
Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little
concern.
We turn off the AGC, so its characteristics are of no consequence.
We give *real*
Dear Ron,
Hear ! Hear !
You have said it so very well. My kudos !
TR, WB6TMY
At 11:03 AM 7/28/2008 -0700, you wrote:
Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and forget it, since we
use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal.
Whether or not the sidetone level tracks
I've been very happy with the AGC-NR on the K3, so turning off AGC is
starting to become a last resort for me. And the configurable AGC
parameters give you a lot of options, not one AGC fits all. (I do
adjust the RF gain even with AGC on.)
I also give signal reports corresponding to the s-meter
In my case the motivation was simple: I wanted to save the $1000+ it would
otherwise
have cost me to purchase a second-hand Drake R8B or JRC NRD-545!
Now if only we could get the synchronous AM detection upgrade, I'd be happier
than
a pig in poop. (Nudge, nudge...)
Mark
Ron's comments in another thread got me thinking. How many of us use
AGC only (RF Gain on full), RF Gain only (AGC off) or a combination?
Does it matter if you're running SSB or CW (or other)?
I run CW and use a combination of AGC and RF Gain. AGC set to fast
with the RF gain turned down to
I'd have to say my modes of operation is very similar to yours. I turn the
RF Gain down to help with the noise but then also use the AGC to protect the
ears. Lately I've been going with a somewhat high AGC threshold with a
pretty flat top to it. So I minimize its action but when it gets hit
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:03:27 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Then there are those of us who set the AF gain and forget it, since we
use the RF gain control to adjust the volume for each signal.
Whether or not the sidetone level tracks the audio gain is of little
concern.
We
Hi Mark,
Can you be more specific? What function of the Drake or JRC could you
not replace without the general coverage receiver option ?
~Iain
Mark Volstad wrote on 07/28/08 11:38:
In my case the motivation was simple: I wanted to save the $1000+ it would
otherwise
have cost me to
The K3 has greatly reduced sensitivity outside of the Amateur bands. The
bandpass filters are designed to be just slightly wider than the amateur
bands so as to reduce interference caused by broadcast stations outside of
them.
Well if it's the broadcast stations that you want to listen to
Beautifully put Dave.
I agree!
73, Deni
F5VJC
DaveL G3TJP wrote:
I don't wish for a change in the knob's function because, given time and
practice, my instinct
should learn to go in the other direction, and that will be fine by me.
Indeed, I'm content to
learn how to with this
The Drake and JRC models I mentioned are not amateur transceivers; they are
highly-regarded shortwave receivers. Like many others, I became a ham only after
developing a strong interest in shortwave and AM broadcast band DXing during my
teens.
You know -- all those frequencies between 0.5 KHz and
Mark when you do this are you using the RX ANT jack or are you using the
standard input?
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I've been using the RX ANT jack on the AM broadcast band (makes a big
difference below 1 MHz), and the standard antenna input on the higher freqs,
where I don't believe there is any measurable advantage to using RX ANT.
Mark
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I had those 12 inch springs once at a location where I live. Most of the time I
just put up a 130 ft dipole and feed it with ladder line and let the good times
roll!! G
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I'd like to interface my K3 to N1MM. Am I assuming correctly that one needs
only connect the rig's RS232 port to a serial port
on the computer to get full radio control AND CW sending? If not, an RS232
cable from K3 to computer and LPT1 keying interface
from computer to rig?
Steve,
This is correct - it works great - I have run mine at 38400 or
4800 either way with a standard serial cable with db9 and I have the
USB interface which configures fine also!
73 de Bill N4ZI
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:43:02 -0400, Stephen Reichlyn wrote:
I'd like to interface my K3 to N1MM. Am I assuming correctly that
one needs only connect the rig's RS232 port to a serial port
on the computer to get full radio control AND CW sending?
For radio control, CW, and PTT, you need a DB9 to
I hadn't noticed that they didn't track until this thread, so I guess
status quo is OK with me. Just now, I found that in swapping between
speaker and phones, I do not feel the need to adjust the sidetone level.
While transmitting ... well, it can be disconcerting to start
transmitting full
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Good Evening, All
I'd like to interface my K3 to N1MM. Am I assuming
correctly that one needs only connect the
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 10:45 -0400, Thom LaCosta wrote:
I wonder if folks south of the equator, where the toilet whirlpool is
backwards to north of the line find the width control counter-intuitive.
Contrary to common belief, the direction that a toilet (or a sink, or a
bathtub, etc) drains is
Using a set of computer speakers which have their own gain control allows
you to adjust the overall AF gain, including the sidetone then use the AF
gain control on the K3 to adjust for band noise. That's how I avoid having
to fiddle with the sidetone level.
Steve Ellington
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:25:17 -0700, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
You might get away with doing it that way, but the shielding
in a video cable is irrelevant to the ACC connector pinout.
I think you would be better off going to Radio Shack and
buying a plastic hood and male DB-15 and making your own
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:42:17 -0400, n4lq wrote:
Using a set of computer speakers which have their own gain control
Most speakers with built-in electronics have RFI problems!
73,
Jim K9YC
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I do the same thing although I've slowed the FAST AGC decay. I'm still
looking for the optimum Threshold setting and have taken to adjusting it
for whatever band condx I find. I run the SLP pretty high and flat.
The receiver seems so hot, or my antenna so susceptible to QRN, that
I seldom
I'm curious about Open Office. Is anyone using it? Comments? Please
reply directly to me.
Thanks,
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Hi Doug,
I use it fairly regularly. I work at a university and most of my colleagues
use ms office on windows, but I use linux as much as possible, including
openoffice for linux. On it's own, I think it is more than good enough for
anything you are likely to do. The word processor reads
Svend, I have been trying to answer your email about my K2 but it
keeps rejecting.
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Can you send me a better email address??
Jim
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:21:17 -0500, Nick, WA5BDU wrote:
Adjust pitch without hearing it? I can't imagine that.
I wasn't suggesting that the ability to adjust sidetone pitch be
eliminated. Merely that we have the additional ability to
interactively adjust the pitch of the received signal.
How about eliminating the tone when pushing either pitch or mon and only
producint the tone when pushing spot? That seems like a good compromise.
That way we could change pitch or st level mid-QSO and still have the tone
available when we want it.
Steve Ellington
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If I turn the AF volume up to hear a weak signal, I don't want the side
tone volume to go up and blow me out of the chair. Leave it as it is,
please.
Bud, K9ZT
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:13:57 -0400, Doug KR2Q wrote:
I'm curious about Open Office. Is anyone using it? Comments? Please
reply directly to me.
Thanks,
de Doug KR2Q
Yes, I use OO for windows, mostly the spreadsheet. The only thing I
don't like is that it takes a minute or two for big (2 MB
Gary Bartlett VE1RGB wrote:
I have been noting with great interest the comments about which way
to rotate the WIDTH control to narrow the filters. Logic may tell you
that clockwise should be wider, but some other instinctive force greater
than that always wants me to turn it clockwise to
Gary and all,
I'm in the same boat! But I think it's simply the fact that
on most other radios a clockwise turn increases
selectivity--makes the filter narrower. The way the K3 does
it makes sense when you think about it, but nonetheless, it
is contrary to what we have been used to doing
I've just ordered a KXV3 and was pleasantly surprised to find they are
more or less a stock item.
In order to use one with an external receiver simultaneously with the K3
main receiver, it appears necessary to use an external resistive
splitter or better still a hybrid coupler feeding one
I agee, and would also like the sidetone volume separately adjustable from
the
spot volume. If I have the sidetone at a reasonable level with headphones
on,
I can hardly hear the spot tone.
73, Gary W7TEA
Bud Morin wrote:
If I turn the AF volume up to hear a weak signal, I don't want the
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