My feelings are that something in the notch part of the DSP code
is not being initialised properly. I have had the Auto notch both
not work, then work.
73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:28:12 -0700, Gregory Fischer wrote:
I've talked to Lyle about this and he is going to look at it
when
Hi Wayne the list,
having skimmed the various mails after the sneak preview and
slobbering all over THE picture... ;-)
I've an idea for feature, which I've always kind of missed, and while
it is not very realistic from an organisational point of view, but
Elecraft has worked wonders in
Hi there,
the APF in TS930S is very effective too. It saved me MANY
TopBand QSOs! Especially thru rough summer QRN,
switch AGC off, wide filters plus APF allowed to hear the weak ones.
Such a filter is VERY high on my K3 wish list.
Jan OM2XW
Date: Sat, 15
Steve Ellington wrote:
photo it appears that the display is not averaging the signals as Flex
SDR. The QRN appears as little signals. With the Flex SDR- LP Pan, QRN
moves the entire base line up and down slowly but doesn't seem to appear
as a mess of little peaks, masking the actual CW
Very nice and very interesting - what speaker is it? Did you buy one
especially or did you have it in your 'junk' box?
nice QTH too :-)
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 16 Aug 2009, at 14:49, Jan A.
I bought a 3,5 inch speaker for 30£, see attachment.
Wanted the biggest that fit the font.
Hope Elecraft will make a kit!
I think I should have made two, one for each channel.
I use a small speaker for left channel and the AFX.function, sounds
great.
73 de Jan SM5FQQ
David
Al Lorona wrote:
I assumed that the front panel control was a 1k potentiometer. Probably a
reasonable guess.
As the pot is tuned from max to min resistance, the audio peak moves from
340 Hz to about 1000 Hz (as I reported earlier). The gain at the peak is
like this:
340 Hz :
Bill W4ZV wrote:
If you send all 6 APF plots directly to me I'll post them for all to see
(attachments must be sent directly since they will not go through the list
filters).
It turns out Al W6LX was one step ahead of me and had already sent me his
PowerPoint file. It's viewable on the
Hi all,
During my transmitter alignent when I put the K2 into transmit to peak
the output I had the power reading going up and down at times without
adjustment of the cans. Sometimes I found I counld peak a certain band
to 2.4 watts the next time I went into transmit the watt meter
Hy all,
I've finished to build my wonderful 4 band K1 today (serial n. 2745) but
there is only a problem:
I don't have any power on 20mt. All other band work OK. The maximum
power on lower band (40mt) is 7.1 watt and on 15mt there is 2.5 watt.
On 40mt - 30mt and 15mt i can easily change the
I'm wondering what the FN1 to FN8 buttons do?
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wrong one. The more active and swift the latter is, the further he
will go astray.
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I understand that those buttons can be programmable/assignable; i.e. band
registers etc.
James K2QI
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:04 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:
I'm wondering what the FN1 to FN8 buttons do?
--
The lame man who keeps the right road outstrips the
Wayne and Eric,
The P3?will be a very welcome accessory?for the K3. However, it appears that it
will require using the RS232 output from the K3 to get its data. How will one
be able to obtain the data necessary for our logging/contest software that
presently uses the RS232 port?
73,
Luca,
The transmit offset should work correctly - it is automatic in the K2,
the offset is computed by the firmware. To be off by the amount of the
sidetone is unusual. The usual situation is when the transmit frequency
error is two times the sidetone pitch, and that is caused by having the
Enzo,
Your maximum power output on 15 meters is much lower than normal, so I
suspect you do not actually have the 15 meter trimmers set correctly.
Go back to the 15 meter alignment and recheck the trimmer settings on
the 4 band board for that band. It is possible to have the pre-mixer
G'morning, all:
This is an email that I just sent to K3 Support.
If you haven't backed up your K3 using the K3 Utility program, this may
provide you motivation to do so. I don't know precisely what was wrong
with my K3 or what in the backed up configuration corrected the problem,
but
Bill wrote:
When the Liberty Ship Jeremiah O'Brien gets under way in San Francisco Bay
there is a YL operator that communicates with KPH from the ship. She is
very skilled at sending with a Viproplex bug. (Puts me to shame!)
It is great to hear these commercial CW operators in action.
k...@aol.com wrote:
Wayne and Eric,
The P3?will be a very welcome accessory?for the K3. However, it appears that
it will
require using the RS232 output from the K3 to get its data. How will one be
able to
obtain the data necessary for our logging/contest software that presently
filters where never designed for AM receving.
The FM filter is the best AM receive filter I have! I always use it on
broadcast band. I have never transmitted FM. If I had to choose, I could do
without the AM filter. I would give up ESSB, only used it to test a couple
of times and AM
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Rick Tavan N6XI rta...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm. We may have a religious issue here. I was delighted to see the P3
positioned on the left BECAUSE I am right-handed. I send CW with my right
hand and adjust the primary radio with my left hand. Stuff located on the
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 with K3 and logging programs
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Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:01 AM
k...@aol.com wrote:
Wayne and Eric,
The P3?will be a very
sorry ignore that, I sent it before I saw Waynes mail yesterday -
great, wanted more PFs
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher. -Socrates
On 17 Aug 2009, at 12:04, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
I've also posted it here as another mirror:
http://www.livecomputers.com/K3/FT_1000_APF.ppt
On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 04:41 -0500, Bill W4ZV wrote:
Bill W4ZV wrote:
If you send all 6 APF plots directly to me I'll post them for all to see
(attachments must be sent directly since they will
Stewart,
I have experienced the same thing. When I downloaded v.3.25 the autonotch did
not seem to work on any band. The next day I tried the autonotch and it worked
well on a 40 meter broadcast heterodyne but not as well as the manual notch (as
expected). I was not able to find a suitable
Hello FM,
My K2 is wire for Yaesu microphone I use the yellow cable to use my head
set.
I have now the USB Digi Keyer from Microham.
The cable DB15-EL-K2 says that my board must be jumpered for MH2, MD2 or
Proset K2.
Is the any other solution so that I can keep my Yaesu microphone or my head
In response to questions posted recently:
- The P3 will always draw well under 500 mA in any configuration (it's
250-300 mA at present). It can be powered from the K3. The P3 can be
turned on/off using its front panel switch, or can be strapped such
that it turns on when the power supply
G'day,
Not many comparisons between 3.19 and 3.25 firmware. I didn't check
the manual notch, however, it works but it works in a different way
in that it creates a big hole in the audio baseband, look at it
working in Spectran. Auto notch takes out an interfering heterodyne
down to the audio
Hi All,
So much info about the P3. What about the W2? Like how accurate will it be
if used with the PC? I would like to be able to compare it to the LP-100A.
Steve, W2MY
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I suspect the reason some are experiencing not working one day and
working the next day is that they are overlooking the requirement to
reboot the K3 following each firmware upgrade (just like a computer,
which it is).
73,
Kent K9ZTV
Someone wrote:
When I downloaded v.3.25 the autonotch
Hello All,
The Owner's manual on the Elecraft web site dose not Have info
on Config: PB Ctrl.
I would appreciate any info.
TU 73 Ken K5DNL
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Rudi,
The problem is the cable coupled with your microphone selection.
You can do one ot two things. Rewire your microphone plug and the K2
mic configuration header to match the Elecraft pinout - by the way, the
bias resistor is not required for the MicroHam cable, so Joe could
expand the
Check the Release Notes for the firmware
73, Ken K3IU
Ken Roberson wrote:
Hello All,
The Owner's manual on the Elecraft web site dose not Have info
on Config: PB Ctrl.
I would appreciate any info.
TU 73 Ken K5DNL
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Thanks , I remember seeing that now , brain dead i guess.
Thanks to everyone.
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I would love to see the PSK31 signals all be decoded on the spectrum, like
the SuperBrowser in DM780. Maybe a larger screen, the picture has the
screen looking rather small.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:55 AM, dj7...@muenchen-mail.de wrote:
Hi Wayne the list,
having skimmed the various mails
The P3 is connected to the K3 at a point ahead of the crystal filters,
so when you change crystal filters on the K3, it won't change the P3's
displayed waveform.
However, the P3 will be aware of the K3's filter bandwidth and offset,
so we can show a bracketed or otherwise highlighted area
I like the limb you're out on.
Will there be a cursor function, similar to a spectrum analyzer - or
does the P3 auto-center frequency in the IF center? If the answer is
yes, text display of peak/average dB of a selected signal could be
done.
Maybe the cursor already exists and I just didn't see
On Aug 17, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
I like the limb you're out on.
Will there be a cursor function, similar to a spectrum analyzer - or
does the P3 auto-center frequency in the IF center?
Both.
If the answer is yes, text display of peak/average dB of a selected
signal
To overcome the issue of a featherweight P3 Elecraft could provide an
internal 1 kw dummy load.
Jim Hester
K5HTK
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I guess I'm curious . Is the P3 wish list now going to delay what
is still on the K3 wish list?
73HankK8DD
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Wayne Burdickn...@elecraft.com wrote:
In response to questions posted recently:
- The P3 will always draw well under 500 mA in any
So, I put the dummy load in the wrong unit. Let's put it in the W2. Either
way I will be more inclined to use all the features if it has provisions for
a dummy.
Jim Hester
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I guess I'm curious . Is the P3 wish list now going to delay what
is still on the K3 wish list?
73 Hank K8DD
No. We have another engineer working on the P3, not myself or Lyle.
73,
Wayne
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Ability to change background and text colour on digital mode receive would be
nice Even font size for us oldies HI.
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The possible functions and variations of the P3 seem interesting.
Will the firmware and installation be handled in a fashion similar to the
K3? Will it be a file separate from those we've become accustomed to? Will
it be offered as a (no solder?) kit?
I continue to like the idea of a 2 meter
... P3 Elecraft could provide an internal 1 kw dummy load.
Or maybe a colour-coordinated brick? ('color' for US readers)
I'd tend to put the P3 on the left, so it would be in front of my face
while I tuned the K3 with my right hand. For those of you yet to experience
a spectral display, I think
Or perhaps a small area on the screen that provides the information that is
fleeting on the VFO B area. Such as power out, bandwidth, CW speed. Maybe
a small dashboard where users can define what values they'd like displayed
much like some of the older Garmin GPS's used to work.
This is where
All amateur radio products have provisions for a dummy any dummy that
feels like owning one only needs to pay for it! ;)
TIC
~Brett
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From: Jim Hester sent Monday, August 17, 2009 8:19 PM
To overcome the issue of a featherweight P3 Elecraft could provide an
internal 1 kw dummy load.
Then perhaps the P3 could display a spectrum of the transmitted signal, with
a couple of gear changes when transmitting.
73,
Geoff
GM4ESD
How about a FAQ page for the P3 like the one for the K3?
Lewis, KF4WK
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Wonder if the graphics library (if you're using one) supports
transparencies. That could lead to some really cool filter BW displays.
Especially for the DUAL PB setups.
~Brett (KC7OTG)
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I sure hope no one screams about the price when this comes available. With all
the vocal contributions, i'd think the $$ value would continue to climb.
Pertains to research, engineering and development i suspect. The softtware
people must be going nuts!
Larry
W0OGH
No software is free!! Just ask any of the marketing guys at the company I
work for...
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Hi to the list.
This is my first post here so I am hoping it works out right.
Just my contribution - have the P3 on one side of the K3 and an external
speaker (using the P3 enclosure) on the other.
Andy VK4KY - K3 s/n 3017
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G'day,
After loading a firmware version I always powered down the K3 for
approximately 10 seconds.
Regards,
Mike VP8NO
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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Autonotch
Don't stop, I'm getting all tingly.
David Wilburn
NM4M
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From: Wayne Burdick
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To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 display of K3 filter bandwidth and other information
Sent: Aug 17, 2009 14:58
The P3 is connected to the
Hi Andy and welcome!!
Good idea, but the K3 is really at its best with *two* speakers - either for
the AFx mode that provides spatial separation of signals from the main
receiver via two speakers or when using a K3 main and the subreceiver, one
receiver to each speaker.
Ron AC7AC
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:12:25 -0700, you wrote:
We'll have a lot more to say about P3 operation in coming weeks. We
have a bit of work to do
It's a good thing that you have Al involved on this. You are already
busy as can be.
Be sure to let me know if you can think of any way to use CW
Are the dimensions firm enough that you can release them? I'm re-org'ing the
shack and I want to leave enoug room.
David Wilburn
NM4M
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Subject: [Elecraft] Heavy P3
Sent: Aug 17,
Hi Ron,
Yes - you are correct. It looks like some of us might require two
speakers (and a longer bench..)
Andy
*
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
Hi Andy and welcome!!
Good idea, but the K3 is really at its best with *two* speakers - either for
the AFx mode that
- Mouse connection to the P3 to point in the P3-display and shoot, My
number one!
- Keyboard connection to P3 to type something -- K3 will send CW,
PSK31, RTTY, or what say you.
- Take out the computer: config the K3 through the P3 if mouse and
keyboard are connected.
- freq-entering via
I like the idea of putting a heavy magnet speaker in the cabinet.
Mel, K6KBE
--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Jim Hester jimhes...@hester.ws wrote:
From: Jim Hester jimhes...@hester.ws
Subject: [Elecraft] Heavy P3
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 12:19 PM
To overcome the
I maybe missing something, but per Elecraft, the K3 will only transmit
AM if
filter is in place. Using a roofing filter of 13 or 6 on AM..to me
BC has no change fidilty, just more noise.
Karl N6XVT
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Don't shoot the engineer. Bring in pizza for him every night except
Sunday. Sunday he gets to drive the Porsche down to San Simeon and back
to air his brain out for Monday morning. Bonus ++ for neat features. We
are patient for impending Perfection.
Bill
Hi
Don the problem was again in the bfo.
I re-did again cal fil using the tom's procedure.
I tuned bfos with the graph spectrum.
Finally the bfo is shifted exatly of 1.2 khz.
the same values of cw nor bfo applied to cw rec cal , produce a perfect
centered filters in cw rev!
what does
Hi
Don the problem was again in the bfo.
I re-did again cal fil using the tom's procedure.
I tuned bfos with the graph spectrum.
Finally the bfo is shifted exatly of 1.2 khz.
the same values of cw nor bfo applied to cw rec cal , produce a perfect
centered filters in cw rev!
what does it mean?
I've probably missed something along the way, but just how big (height, width)
will the active display be?
I've been reading all the P3 wishlists and am beginning to doubt if my meagre
17 inch computer monitor could display it all.
For some of us older guys, it's not a matter of display
Luca,
1.2 kHz off means that you have one or more of the CW filters set on the
wrong sideband.
The CW BFO frequencies should all be in the range of 4913.xx kHz.
The CW r BFO frequencies should all be higher than 4914 kHz.
Go to CAL FIL and tap BAND- to display the DAC value for the selected
They're trying their darndest to make it look and act like an
IC-7600/7700/7800,with a better front end.
If somebody suggests wallpaper I'll come unglued.
How about if we have it sing the national anthem, proper selection for
DX of course, brew the coffee, and cook breakfast while we're at
A correction to our initial spec's on the K144XV 2M module for theK3.
There was a miscalculation of its Noise Figure when we came up with the
initial data.
We've tested a number of K144XVs now and have found that they are
typically measuring at 1 dB NF, not the 2 dB NF as earlier stated. :-)
Very good idea. Love it.
73, de Jim KG0KP
Then perhaps the P3 could display a spectrum of the transmitted signal,
with
a couple of gear changes when transmitting.
73,
Geoff
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Agreed, I made P3 space on the left of my K3. Right in front of me and the
K3 to the right where my right hand can easily reach it.
73, de Jim KG0KP
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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:51 PM
Subject:
On Aug 17, 2009, at 6:54 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
Don't worry - we're really good at trimming the pile of requested
features down to the core group we release the product with. We will
not
overload the P3 with a plethora of fringe features.
Well... OK. As long as the
Gents:
What a great surprise. Now it sounds like a real radio! What is it limited
to the .1 Hz setting of the PBT? Not that it really matters however.
Steve
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I thought there were pictures of the P3 somewhere. If so where are
they?
Tom, N5GE
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XV144, XV432, KRC2,
W1 and other small kits.
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P3 / K3 ideas
Perhaps there could be more than one version of the P3. I am thinking
about a version that had NO display, but instead was configured for a
user provided flat-screen external display. That way the details could
appear as large as the user was willing to provide a screen to
Perhaps, but I don't think that's likely.
The K3 Utility causes an MCU reset (a reboot) after loading each firmware
file. That's what's happening when the display goes dark for a second or two
after loading each firmware file.
Dick, K6KR
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Thank you! Another quiet over achievement and understatement. Typical no
where else but Elecraft!
Dan
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
A correction to our initial spec's on the K144XV 2M module for theK3.
There was a miscalculation of its Noise Figure when we came up with the
I noted the same issue with the autonotch. I kind of works but before the
latest firmware the autonotch just made +20 and +40 tuner uppers just
disappear. Now is still works but not like before. It sort of hunts for the
carrier and kills 70%.
Dan
Mike Harris wrote:
G'day,
After loading
I am saving to buy more options for me K-3 so I am selling 5 keys from my
collection. In my opinion these keys are some of the best made.
They are all new, they have never been used, stored safely in the box waiting
for a cabinet to show them in. ( Scheunemann Einhebel single-
lever paddle)
What you're talking about is essentially an SDR , and they already
exist ... either functioning standalone or through the K3 IF port.
Everything you describe (including logging and various maps) already
exists in one form or other. The P3 appears to be headed more in the
direction of a
We used to call it added value! ;-)
Dan
Brett Howard wrote:
No software is free!! Just ask any of the marketing guys at the company I
work for...
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I
Using 3.25 I have no autonotch at all. Reverting back to 3.14 I do have
autonotch. The improvement in NR effectiveness is quite positive. 73,
Paul NN5G
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I also have an autonotch problem with 3.25. Previously the autonotch zapped
the heterodynes immediately. Now it only partially works slowly and you can
hear a residual heterodyne. It does not seem to work at all on signals less
than S9.
Barry VK2BJ
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From:
The logging software can acquire the VFO B frequency at any time by issuing
the K3's FB; command.
It might want to do this when you're in split frequency mode, which is
indicated in the response to the IF command.
This might require some input from your logging program's author.
Dick, K6KR
which brings me to repeat of last years question. Will matching empty k3
style boxes/empty p3 cases be available for housing matching custom
accesories be made available?
Dave
ww2r
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:51:37 +1000
From: Andy vk...@woodtech.net.au
Subject: [Elecraft] External
Hm You never know!
73,
Eric WA6HHQ
WW2PT wrote:
Well... OK. As long as the YouTube viewer makes the final feature
list, I'll be happy with whatever else you guys decide.
Paul WW2PT
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I know that Elecraft states that rosin core solder is the only type that
should be used when it comes to circuit board assembly. However, can solid
wire solder (lead) be used as well? I have a whole spool of .020 solid wire
solder sitting around, and would like to know if I can use this stuff on
Not short term as the volume is much lower than our minimum sheet metel
purchase lot size. But we'll revisit this once the P3 is shipping.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
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which brings me to repeat of last years question. Will matching empty k3
style boxes/empty p3 cases be available for
The K3 was built on a RoHS process and technically you shouldn't mix the
processes (leaded solder with non leaded solder) that being said if
thats all you have then it will work. But the RoHS stuff can be had
fairly inexpensively...
~Brett (KC7OTG)
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 00:05 -0400, James Sarte
If you really wanted a P3-style chassis, maybe you could just order a
set of replacement P3 chassis parts. To cover up the holes in the front
panel, order an extra side panel and cut it to the right size to cover
the front panel.
I was thinking it might be possible to do something similar with a
I did not touch a soldering iron when assembling the K3, not sure what
there is to solder unless your making some mods.
And solid wire solder would be a bear to use with no flux. Sure would
not try using flux with it would be a huge mess of left over rosin.
Cheaper to go buy a few feet of the
Any machine shop with a brake can bend up a front U shaped panel
like what is used on the K3, then all you have to do is match some
paint. Black should not be difficult.
Same with all the other panels, just the correct aluminum thickness and
have a shop shear and bend up what you want.
I bet
Benny, perhaps I was misunderstood. There is PC that is personal computer
but the K3 also has a PC command to query or set the power output level.
What I was proposing is having a personal computer send the string PC005;
to set the K3 power to 5 watts, and PC100; to set the power to 100 watts.
It
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