[Elecraft] [P3] Congratulations Elecraft on P3

2010-08-20 Thread Glen Torr
Dear Elecraft and List, I got home from a trip yesterday to find the P3 had arrived. A pleasant and quick build and an afternoon of playing and I am wrapped. I love the Elecraft approach for top end radios of allowing no solder kits, it connects me with the technology and architecture in a way

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Stephen Prior
I use the Heil MD2 microphone which has an electret element. I have both compression and mic gain set to 25, and mic set to front panel low with bias. I have far more 'talk power' than I have enjoyed with any previous radio. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 20/08/2010 04:24, Joseph Trombino, Jr

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread dj7mgq
I use a small plane / helicopter pilot's headset and my settings are similar: - bias on - low - mic gain ca. 10 - compression between 20 and 25 - reduced bass with the tx equalizer (my voice is very deep) The lack of SSB-Umph was solved a long time ago, and that BCC report we wrote way back

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Tom W8JI
**Without using enough compression** (CMP), a lack of SSB average power level occurs because the ALC does not act the same in the SSB mode as it does in other radios. This makes the audio sound thinner or less powerful because there is less very short term (fast speed) compression to level

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Bill W4ZV
Laurent HAAS - F6FVY wrote: After using mostly these rigs for SSB contesting in FY5KE or in other places, we are still facing a lack of dynamics, punch, penetration, power, whatever you call it. In other words, when comparing this rig to our radios we previously used (TS-850), with the

Re: [Elecraft] NG0R - K2+K60XV+XV144/222/432 - Setup Issue #2

2010-08-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, Try putting a low pass filter in the 28 MHz output path from the K60XV. Most any with a cutoff frequency above 30 MHz will do. Sometimes the transverter couples a bit of its output frequency energy back into the K60XV and overwhelms the power detection circuit. If that happens, the K2

[Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
From one contester to another It is my experience that it takes more set up to get your transmitted audio to sound more like the Kenwood of old (nothing ever came close to the Signal/One transmitted audio). I got on a dead band with a local who has known me for decades and we played with the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I have not looked at waveforms on a scope, but this is what the 4391 Power Analyst says. It would be interesting to look at some speech patterns, but I have no idea what a good reference input would be or how to accomplish that. The above is with my voice and saying hello test one two three

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread k2qi . nyc
I've pretty much cut all of the lower frequencies out on my TX EQ and have gotten very good audio reports. K3 can sound good on SSB but has to be tweaked. James K2QI Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com Sender:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread k2qi . nyc
Who uses the Elecraft hand mic? I do and mic gain has to be set low; i.e. around 8 or 9 to prevent clipping and flat topping as viewed on a monitor scope. This is with mic sensitivity set to low in the menu. I was once told that the hand mics are a tad hot, but mine seems to be excessively

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Philippe Trottet
Hi James, I'm using MH2 also for Field day opertions and almost same as you, set MIC=2 COMP=20 TX equalizer has been adjust to my loud voice given preferential to medium high audio. Great 73's Philippe A65BI K3#3616 k2qi@gmail.com 20-08-2010 18:54 Who uses the Elecraft hand mic? I do

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Tim Tucker
Are any of you guys driving your K3 with W2IHY or other audio rack gear? If so, I'm curious as to the settings you ended up with on the rig. I'm still waiting for my K3 to get back from the factory, but I plan on running the full stack of W2IHY gear with a Heil GM-5 Mic. I imagine I will

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread John Fritze
Of course you have to use compression to get any kind of decent punch in your output. But I thought this would be obvious to anybody doing contesting. AB2TC - Knut GEE. Here all these years I thought in a contest I was supposed to crank the compression to max, and use a SURE

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
Hello Tim, I use the Heil Pro-set K2 with the IC mic into a W2IHY Equalizer and Noise Gate. I set the W2IHY for bias and the K3 for no bias. I use this because (at least initially) the K3 noise gate caused audio distortion and I was getting bad audio reports. With the current setup I get

Re: [Elecraft] K3 KXV3A RX Ant

2010-08-20 Thread Mike
On 8/19/2010 7:04 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Sam Morgan wrote: If I have *ONLY* the K3 with the main receiver, with the KAT3, does that mean I could connect one antenna for strictly TX, or even a TX/RX antenna to, either the Ant1 (or Ant2) connection on the KAT3 and then connect a different

[Elecraft] K3

2010-08-20 Thread Phil LaMarche
I have a friend, Bob Peters, who lives in Mesquite Texas who is selling his FT2000 and considering a K3 replacement. Any one with a fully loaded K3 that would let Bob come over and hear and play with it? Many thanks and his address is above. Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Are any of you guys driving your K3 with W2IHY or other audio rack gear? Why bother? The K3 already provides all of the capability of the W2IHY 8 band EQ/noise gate, adds downward expansion in the noise gate and there is no issue with external hum loops, RF pick-up, etc. I'm still

[Elecraft] need advice on rig

2010-08-20 Thread ussv dharma
Aloha: I have had my K3 since last October. I think I have given it a fair trail. It is just too darned complicated for me. I have never been able to get it to give the same background noise for cw as it gives for ssb. I think I want to get rid of it. Can anyone advise me of a rig, same

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Arthur Nienhouse
Are any of you guys driving your K3 with W2IHY or other audio rack gear? I use my w2ihy box for two reasons 1) I think the noise gate is better than the K3's built in gate. 2) Because I already had it I can have two radios connected to my ATR 30 I find no reason to ever purchase another Heil

Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation

2010-08-20 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I am amazed at how good the K3 sounds with a cheap electret computer mic. Here's the one I'm using: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826193029cm_re=headset-_-26-193-029-_-Product Other el cheapo computer mics sound great too. My settings: RPL, bias mic 30 cmp 22 tx eq -16,

Re: [Elecraft] advice on rig

2010-08-20 Thread Tony Morgan
Susan, If you're sure you want to step down, you might check out the Ten-Tec Omni VII. No complicated menus and very straight forward to operate. Good QSK. Not as nice looking as the K3. ;-) 73, Tony W7GO __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] advice on rig

2010-08-20 Thread Kim Bottles
Susan, I am no expert, however I sold an Icom 756ProIII and bought a K-3. I would not move down to a ProIII if I were you. The K-3 is light years better, that is of course just my nonprofessional opinion. Cheers! Kim - K7IM -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

[Elecraft] Overvoltage Protector

2010-08-20 Thread Scott Ellington
Some power supplies, like the Samlex SEC 1235, have no built-in overvoltage protection. All regulated power supplies are capable of producing much more than their normal output voltage if any one of a number of things fails. Linear supplies are particularly susceptible, since the pass

Re: [Elecraft] [K3][XV144][K144XV] Considering Sale of XV144 to replace with K144XV, need advice.

2010-08-20 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Thank you for that insight, very informative. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 -- Too many parents make life hard for their children by trying, too zealously, to make it easy for them. -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, poet, dramatist, novelist, and philosopher (1749-1832) On 20 Aug 2010, at 20:59,

Re: [Elecraft] Overvoltage Protector

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Christensen
Scott, Great contribution. Surprising how many switch-mode supplies do not include OVP. AD5X created a similar circuit using a single high-peak-current transient suppressor: http://www.radiodan.com/ad5x/images/Articles/VcondRevA.pdf Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Scott

Re: [Elecraft] Overvoltage Protector

2010-08-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The same/similar article from the original source: http://www.ad5x.com/images/Articles/Vprotect.pdf 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/20/2010 4:22 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: Scott, Great contribution. Surprising how many switch-mode supplies do not include OVP. AD5X created a similar

Re: [Elecraft] need advice on rig

2010-08-20 Thread kk5na
Hi Susan, I love my K3 and it may be worth you trying a little longer to get used too. And if I were going to step down in quality to me the next best rig is the Elecraft K2...not as complicated but a great CW rig. Joe KK5NA On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 12:04 -0700,

Re: [Elecraft] Overvoltage Protector

2010-08-20 Thread Scott Ellington
The K3 actually has a couple even larger transient suppressors built-in. While they have high peak current ratings, a failed power supply could make them dissipate hundreds of watts continuously, and fail. If they failed shorted, the rest of the radio would be protected, but I'm not sure you

Re: [Elecraft] need advice on rig

2010-08-20 Thread The Smiths
Susan, I think that the days of having background noise from SSB to CW sound exactly the same are over. They went out the door with DSP, how it processes a signal, and what it ends up doing with it to improve the quality of reception. I can only assume what you are trying to say is that

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - waterfall suggestion

2010-08-20 Thread GLEN BROWN
I would not expect any new information outside of the starting display ... Black on the edge would ok until filled in from the top. I just think that would be a much more useful dislay when tuning from the K3 as an alternative to marker QSY. Glen, W6GJB Sent from Gmail for mobile On 8/19/10,

Re: [Elecraft] Overvoltage Protector

2010-08-20 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
I'd like to clarify this a bit. While the K3 does have some protection against over voltage on its supply, we do not garantee it will survive an overvoltage event in all cases. 73, Eric www.elecraft.com _..._ On Aug 20, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Scott Ellington sdell...@facstaff.wisc.edu wrote:

[Elecraft] Over voltage protection

2010-08-20 Thread george fritkin
The best over voltage protection is a 4 component circuit using a SCR, a ZENER, a resistor, and a capacitor.  Oh yes, a fuse also!  Since the circuit goes across the supply to ground, it does not carry output current nor effect normal power supply operation George, W6GF

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-20 Thread Dennis KB7ST
Hi Ron, I'm pretty much done with my testing on decoding PSK31. Using the method I tried, now I don't have to use the CW mode to help spot the right frequency to tune to in data mode. I trained my ear to recognize the 1010 Hz spotting tone that Lyle, KK7P, pointed out. And it's been much more

[Elecraft] OT: the gods must be crazy

2010-08-20 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
1. When I was a kid (a long time ago), TenTec was known as the CW man's radio. 2. As tubes faded away, the lament often heard was real radios glow in the dark. Well, check out tentec.com 1. They now say, The SSB Company 2. You won't believe their approach to glow in the dark radios.

Re: [Elecraft] NG0R - K2+K60XV+XV144/222/432 - Setup Issue #2

2010-08-20 Thread John Hoaglun
Hi Don group I tried using a low pass filter between the K60XV and the 432 transverter and went thru the tune-up from scratch with similar results. I removed the LP filter. I measured the K60XV out at -3dBM or about 50mW which what I say last night as well. I put it on my counter analyzer and

Re: [Elecraft] Over voltage protection

2010-08-20 Thread Tom W8JI
Below is what all my protected supplies use. I'd never do it any other way. The best over voltage protection is a 4 component circuit using a SCR, a ZENER, a resistor, and a capacitor. Oh yes, a fuse also! Since the circuit goes across the supply to ground, it does not carry output current

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] Waterfall Display

2010-08-20 Thread Bill W4ZV
ke7vwi wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation on an article or some info on using/interpreting the waterfall display? I searched but the following is the best I could find (which isn't great): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrogram A waterfall is basically a spectrum (signal

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - waterfall suggestion

2010-08-20 Thread Brett Howard
This has been talked about during field testing and has been considered. There were no promises but once things calm down they may have time to get to something like this. ~Brett (N7MG) On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:12 PM, GLEN BROWN 210g...@gmail.com wrote: I would not expect any new information

Re: [Elecraft] need advice on rig

2010-08-20 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The noise will normally be different, Susan. The bandwidth is typically narrower for CW, which means the noise will sound different and be lower in amplitude for CW. You aren't the first to complain that the rig is too complicated, but it need not be. The issue is usually there are too many

Re: [Elecraft] [P3] screen freeze

2010-08-20 Thread John Buck
I also found my P3 panadapter screen frozen after a period of about 3 hours of inattention. I was not using the computer or the K3 at the time although both were on. I found it frozen in Span mode and I may have left it in that mode when I left the room. For sure, changing the span was

[Elecraft] advice on a rig

2010-08-20 Thread Toby Pennington
Susan, someone else mentioned the Ten Tec Omni 7. I recently used one of these for several weeks and found it a refreshingly simply rig to operate. QSK cw is really great and the internal keyer is about as good as the one in the K3. There appear to be no major bugs or problems with this

[Elecraft] [K2] No power on transmit

2010-08-20 Thread Brian Denley
I have completed the last assembly steps leading to Alignment and Test Part 3 and started the testing. Everything went OK until I keyed the transmitter (using TUNE) at 2 watts. The most power I can get on the internal power meter is .5 watts. I do see the current draw rise to about 0.44 amps

[Elecraft] RX Ant Preamps and the K3 12v Accessory Jack

2010-08-20 Thread K3RWN
I had a thought for a future feature request. For those of us who use RX antennas (active and/or preamp). It would be really cool if the 12v output on the K3 could be triggered by the PTT. If the 12v output jack could be set in the menus to 0v (OFF) on PTT we could power our preamps via that

Re: [Elecraft] RX Ant Preamps and the K3 12v Accessory Jack

2010-08-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Rich, You could control 12 V to an external RX antenna or preamp using the KEY OUT signal pretty easily. This signal floats (open, or hi-Z) during receive, and goes to 0 V (ground) during transmit. The timing is perfect for such an application, because there's a delay between

Re: [Elecraft] OT: the gods must be crazy

2010-08-20 Thread Joe Planisky
Something like that (a glow-in-the-dark trim ring for the tuning knob) could actually be useful on the KX1. Just the thing to make it easy to find the rig in total darkness without putting additional drain on the batteries. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Aug 20, 2010, at 5:48 PM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL

Re: [Elecraft] OT: the gods must be crazy

2010-08-20 Thread Ken Kopp
AND a glow-in-the-dark tuning knob!! Be still, my beating heart ... Why? For what purpose? Would be interesting to know. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

[Elecraft] Where I'm Heading Station Wise

2010-08-20 Thread David Yarnes
I've finally focused pretty much on what I want for my main operating station. Until now, it's been pretty willy-nilly, with different pieces of equipment being switched on and off the main table. Since Elecraft's inception, I've been a big fan, and have all their radios--even two K2's.