Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Rick M0LEP
On Thu 26 Sep Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Y'know, most of the DX I work is on dead bands, usually 20 meters Yeah, QRP often has the best chance when the bands are dead. Once the big guns get the idea that a band is open QRP can get quite difficult. I was out on a SOTA summit yesterday with my KX3

[Elecraft] K2: maximizing RF output, upping audio output.

2013-09-26 Thread Allan Taylor
I have a very early K2 that I use for field operations. It functions as an emergency communication source for serious backcountry trips (multi-day wilderness whitewater rafting, etc.). I am finding that a power output of, say, 20W would be desirable as a compromise between more reliable

Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Stephen Roberts
Sorry no joy there Rick, but at least you had a nice day in the great outdoors. My latest adventure was a QSO with a station in Japan on 20m yesterday (I'm in VT with a KX3). I have to count countries, but after about a year and a half of operating, I'm up to 150 or so. Still trying to reach

[Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread stan levandowski
 About 3 weeks ago, I learned about a new miracle antenna -  I usually dismiss such nonsense because there *is* no miracle antenna.  However, the person who informed me is a trusted, capable, educated ham and DXpeditioner who is not easily impressed. I still don't believe in miracles but this

Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Rick M0LEP
On Thu 26 Sep Stephen Roberts wrote: at least you had a nice day in the great outdoors. which is at least half the point of activities like SOTA. It'd be nice if the summits nearest to me were more interesting, but I'd have to move house to make that the case. My latest adventure was a

Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Ariel Jacala
I have to add that my greatest pride as a ham is having DXCC and WAS with QRP power. I am up to 175 countries (mostly with Elecraft gear) but i still enjoy QRP despite having the ability now to transmit at the legal limit. One thing that QRP operation teaches you is knowing when and what

Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Rick Johnson
QRP puts the onus on the receiving station. No problem transmitting 5W. 73, Rick W3BI Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:58:04 + To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net From: m0...@chocky.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP On Thu 26 Sep Stephen Roberts wrote: at least you had a nice

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread stan levandowski
 Go to:  http://www.parelectronics.com/index.php http://www.parelectronics.com/index.php   and click on HF Omnis   Dale Parfitt (PAR) sold EndFedZ to LNR.  Dale remains in business at PAR Electronics mostly doing business with commercial, government and military.  I think that's where the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-26 Thread Edward R Cole
This moving to OT but interesting to a long-term JT65 user like me. JT65 was designed for weak-signal communication, so the situations on HF where strong signals are received might be a problem. I would like to hear what Joe Taylor (K1JT) would say regarding this. I have not used JT9 or

Re: [Elecraft] K2: maximizing RF output, upping audio output.

2013-09-26 Thread Vic K2VCO
Before the KPA100 came out I experimented with the K2 to see if I could get more output to drive an external amplifier. There IS a way, but I am sure there are lots of dangers involved. I will say that I did this for a month or so until I got my KPA100. I am not recommending it! The K2 has a

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread Vic K2VCO
How high was the 44' doublet? How was it oriented compared to the Omni Angle antenna? Is the doublet in inverted V or horizontal configuration? I am finding this interesting because I am soon moving to an antenna-restricted location. On 9/26/2013 6:57 AM, stan levandowski wrote: About 3

Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/26/2013 12:37 AM, Rick M0LEP wrote: Yeah, QRP often has the best chance when the bands are dead. QRP can also be rewarding when the bands are full in a major contest. DX contests scoring rules put west coast stations at a 10:1 disadvantage to those around the Atlantic basin, so most of

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread Craig Smith
Both the PAR omniangle and the doublet are excellent antennas. The 44 ft doublet on 17 meters has a pattern with several sharp lobes, and its gain will vary considerably depending upon which direction the signal is coming from. In some directions it will be significantly better than the

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread Randy Moore
I have a 44' doublet hanging from a tree in a near vertical orientation (steep sloper) and it does very well. The bottom is about 8' off the ground and it's maybe 20 deg. off vertical. Fed with ladder line with a BL2 at the K3 and the KAT3; 40m-10m. 73, Randy, KS4L On Sep 26, 2013, at

Re: [Elecraft] K2: maximizing RF output, upping audio output.

2013-09-26 Thread EricJ
Far more importantfor emergency communication is a reliable radio with over a decade of testing behind it...you already have that. If you are depending on SSB, you would be better off bringing along a key than installing someones favoritepower tweak. Or look into SPOT gps and leave the K2 at

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread Ignacy
In a world of bragging, this is all nothing Last Sunday morning, I took my KX3 out. The antenna was thin wire attached to a 23 ft fiberglass pole (2 ft collapsed, weight 1 lb) and one 15 ft counterpoise. VK5HC was CQing at 579 on 30m. Many stations could not hear him. I attached an external

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread stan levandowski
Hi Vic.  My 44' doublet is in my attic, arranged as a flat top for 24' and then drooping straight down at both ends.  The antenna is almost exactly 30' above the earth.  It is fed with 14' of 450  ohm ladder line straight down through a slit in my ceiling and into a linen closet where it meets

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread Vic K2VCO
Stan, Interesting. I did a quick EZNEC plot of the pattern of a 44' doublet (close to a full wavelength) at 30' on 18.07 MHz and didn't see any deep nulls in the horizontal pattern. But in the direction of Italy from NY it is down about 5 dB from the maximum gain in the E-W direction. I

Re: [Elecraft] [OT] - PAR HF OMNI ANGLE

2013-09-26 Thread stan levandowski
Vic, I don't know how to model. It's on my bucket list.  However, my personal opinion is that while modeling may give a general starting point, all bets are off once the antenna - especially an indoor antenna - is actually put in place.  You've got a point about Italy not exactly being west of

Re: [Elecraft] K2: maximizing RF output, upping audio output.

2013-09-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
RF OUT: Don't forget that the output filters are fixed-tuned for the impedance expected when running 10 watts for decent efficiency and proper suppression of the harmonics. As a minimum you should re-design the output bandpass filters for each band to match the changed impedance load needed by

Re: [Elecraft] K2: maximizing RF output, upping audio output.

2013-09-26 Thread Fred Jensen
On 9/26/2013 5:55 AM, Allan Taylor wrote: Yes, I know this amounts to only a dB or two. But it can be the edge needed in very marginal conditions. Sounds like quite a bit of effort for 1.155dB. Second issue. The K2 has always been on the low side for RX audio. Same problem for me and on

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

2013-09-26 Thread ke9uw
The reason is that the KAT500 has more coarse component values... the values of capacitance for example are not as fine as on the K3. So the values on the K3 sometimes cannot be duplicated on the KAT500. - Chuck, KE9UW -- View this message in context:

[Elecraft] Abusing a K2 ... or any rig

2013-09-26 Thread Ken G Kopp
Ron's comments about re-design of the output circuit are spot on. The minuscule gain in output power simply isn't worth the likely stress and/or harm to the K2. You say it's used for emergency communications in the field. IMHO this is -not- the place to abuse the radio. The same thing seems to

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

2013-09-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
Chuck wrote: The reason is that the KAT500 has more coarse component values... the values of capacitance for example are not as fine as on the K3. So the values on the K3 sometimes cannot be duplicated on the KAT500. Hi Chuck, I'm not sure where this idea came from, but I can assure you that

Re: [Elecraft] Abusing a K2 ... or any rig

2013-09-26 Thread Fred Jensen
About a hundred years ago, I pointed to a mark on the airspeed indicator dial and asked my flight instructor, What's that for? He said, Don't fly faster than that. When I asked him, What happens if I do?, he replied, The wings come off. Design limits do matter. Before I bought my KPA500, I

Re: [Elecraft] K2: maximizing RF output, upping audio output.

2013-09-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Allan, You have received several replies, and most (if not all) said don't do that. I recommend that you keep the power on the K2 to 10 watts or less - that is the design point. Above that, the IMD increases and the components are stressed more than at the 10 watt level. Furthermore, the PA

[Elecraft] K3 Digital modes

2013-09-26 Thread Greg KA2COP
I've been toying with the idea of outfitting my KAT-500 with a new K3! The KAT-500 being the only Elecraft product I own right now is getting lonely and needs a playmate. All humor aside, my search of this group hasn't found what I'm looking to find out. I occasionally use PSK31 but I use JT65

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital modes

2013-09-26 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
Hi Greg, The K3 is the most digital friendly rig you can get! You are right - you just hook up the AUDIO OUT and AUDIO IN on the back of the K3 to the opposite LINE IN/MIC and LINE OUT/HEADPHONES of your computer sound card. The PTT can be controlled via the RS232 cable from your computer

Re: [Elecraft] K2: maximizing RF output, upping audio output.

2013-09-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
And you have another QRO option available soon: The KXPA100 100 watt amp. Although designed to integrate very closely with the KX3, it is a great general purpose 100 watt amplifier for use with almost any 160-6 meter rig. It needs about 5 watts of drive to produce 100 watts output. Of course,

Re: [Elecraft] Side KX

2013-09-26 Thread KD6QZX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital modes

2013-09-26 Thread Frank Precissi
Hi Greg, I do a ton of digital with my (new) K3 so I figure I could chime in with what my setup is since yours will probably be really close. I have a Griffin iMic USB sound-card dongle. They are cheap, supported by everyone (Generic USB Audio) and its small/lightweight. From that, I have the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital modes

2013-09-26 Thread Bill Frantz
I have been operating my K3 mostly in digital mode for about 3 years. I use the VOX to key the rig. It has worked so well that I haven't had the urge to make a new cable to connect my SignaLink USB's keying output to the rig. YMMV Note that all the digital modes I know of only vary the

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

2013-09-26 Thread Klaus Koppendorfer
i hat the same behavior on my KAT500 - could not tune what K3 and KX3 could tune... i had a wrong capassitor on wrong place in the L C Network Dick Divendorf sent me the cap infos and bingo... after build in right cap tuning of KAT500 was same as k3 73 klaus oe6kyg

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital modes

2013-09-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 9/26/2013 6:31 PM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote: The K3 is the most digital friendly rig you can get! Indeed it is. I've operated a LOT of AFSK RTTY, and a fair amount of JT65, FSK441, and ISCAT. About the only thing I would add between the computer and the K3 is a decent USB sound

Re: [Elecraft] K2: maximizing RF output, upping audio output.

2013-09-26 Thread Dyarnes
Ron and All, I think Ron's cautionary comments are right on! I remember a number of years back when the Kenwood TS-50 first came out. It didn't take long for the tinkerers to realize that the output transistors in that rig were very conservatively rated. It was often stated that they could

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital modes

2013-09-26 Thread Michael Eberle
What software are people using for the JT65 mode? I would like to possibly start tinkering with JT65 and have WSJT9 installed. There do not seem to be any options for using CAT to key the K3. I see an option for a PTT port and buttons for selecting DTR or RTS. I already have an RS-232 cable