Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Ed Muns
This RTTY system configuration is the worst one I can think of (sorry!). The RTTY receive will be great for you and transmit will be greatly compromised, for both you and your QSO partners. Once you have a PC/modem interfaced to the K3S for receive it is trivial to use it for transmit as well.

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread w7aqk
Rick and All, The Sherwood performance chart is strictly about RX, not TX!!! If you want TX info, you need to go elsewhere. That's what reviews like the ones in QST can give you. Rob has been doing this for a lot of years now, and on a strictly volunteer, no pay, basis. It has become

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support email

2017-03-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I have a helper at my computer. He is a little corduroy pig called Pablo. He has been with me since my Hewlett-Packard days in the 1980's. He squeaks when squeezed. He fits in my hand. Whenever something on the internet isn't working I go to Pablo, pick him up, squeeze him for a few squeaks,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Jim Brown
I can tell you that being on the other side of that kind of QSO can be painful, even with something as simple as a contest exchange. From that point of view, the paddle is acceptable only if you can send about as fast as RTTY. Not a lot of hams can. :) 73, Jim K9YC On Wed,3/8/2017 7:42 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Don Pomplun
I'm hoping hat I can use the K3S sound card hardware & PC software for the receive side, and use the paddle CW interface as the transmit side. Any experience in the group with doing that? Don K2BIO On 03/08/2017 07:54 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > For those using the K3, get an

Re: [Elecraft] Birdies

2017-03-08 Thread Ken G Kopp
Obvious questions Do the birdies (mostly) go away when the antenna is disconnected? Could they be coming from in-house sources? Are they there when the receiver is operated (on a battery) away from potential sources? 73! K0PP On Mar 8, 2017 18:38, "GRANT YOUNGMAN"

Re: [Elecraft] Birdies

2017-03-08 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Can you give me a list (frequencies) of your worst birdies and I will check if I have them. In general I have not found many bothersome birdies in the K3S, but there are some. If I don't have them, there is clearly something wrong with your radio which may warrant a return to Elecraft. BTW, I

[Elecraft] Birdies

2017-03-08 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
I LOVE my K3 … It’s the best radio I’ve owned (and I’ve owned many/most/all of the very best)., except on AM where my old Orion/Orion II (the ones I sold to buy the K3) were much better … but that’s a different issue. (And E’craft won’t “formally" deal with it). Everything else about the K3

Re: [Elecraft] AGC and RTTY Decoding (was [K3] AGC White Paper)

2017-03-08 Thread Walter Underwood
> On Mar 8, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > > Looking at the fundamentals (not often learned by some RF engineers, and > almost never by digital engineers)... Somewhat related story, I studied DSP at Rice University. When interviewing for a job (which I got),

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support email

2017-03-08 Thread Doug Person
Bad timing I guess. Thanks Eric. Doug -- K0DXV On 3/8/2017 5:51 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: supp...@elecraft.com was down for 5-10 minutes mid-day today for maintenance. If you got a bounce message, or we have nor replied within 24 hours, please resend your message. (Or also,

Re: [Elecraft] AGC and RTTY Decoding (was [K3] AGC White Paper)

2017-03-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Wider BW in QRM will too. Only to the extent that the QRM causes AGC pumping or overdrives the signal chain (receiver IF, detector, sound card) causing IMD. RTTY decoding software like Chen's cocoaModem, David's 2-Tone and even Mori-san's MMTTY have extremely tight MARK/SPACE filtering

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> For those using the K3, get an external soundcard, even an inexpensive > one and use the K3's VOX - it will perform better and with lower noise > than the Signalink. And it will not require that the sound car transmit level be turned to the maximum as is the case with Signalink (read their

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support email

2017-03-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
supp...@elecraft.com was down for 5-10 minutes mid-day today for maintenance. If you got a bounce message, or we have nor replied within 24 hours, please resend your message. (Or also, feel free to call us at 831-763-4211.) 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 3/8/2017 2:37 PM, Doug Person wrote: My

Re: [Elecraft] AGC and RTTY Decoding (was [K3] AGC White Paper)

2017-03-08 Thread Jim Brown
Looking at the fundamentals (not often learned by some RF engineers, and almost never by digital engineers) any variation in the amplitude response of a system is accompanied by variation in the phase response. Ears don't like it, and decoders don't like it. Those engineers urging wide

Re: [Elecraft] AGC and RTTY Decoding (was [K3] AGC White Paper)

2017-03-08 Thread Fred Jensen
Having designed digital decoders BR [Before Retirement] on various channels including HF, we found exactly what Ed said to be true, both in corrected and uncorrected channels. The less AGC compression on HF channels, the better the decode. However, adjusting AGC parameters on many military

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Actually, the K3 has isolation for the Line In and Line Out signals, and no interface is required for digital modes. Just a computer soundcard and good quality audio cables so they do not pick up hum, buzz and noise. PTT is not required either, use VOX. Actually, the Signalink PTT is

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Don, The K3S built in soundcard will relieve you from the cabling problems associated with an external soundcard (or Signalink which is actually a single channel external soundcard). It will not relieve you of the "level tweaking" because the K3S CODEC is nothing more than a soundcard built

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Yes. RTTY, or PSK-31, or JT65, or JT9, or AX.25, or Throb, or Olivia, or MFSK-16, or. 73 -- Lynn On 3/8/2017 3:18 PM, Don Pomplun wrote: So then fig 10-14 (Fred's book) gives me the impression that with this hookup, I can then run any RTTY software on the PC and the PC to K3S

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Barry
Don, Your inference is right on. You CAN run any digital software that will play with a USB external sound card. The card in the K3s will show up as an external card. That is exactly what I do and is one of the reasons I bought my K3s. I freed up some desk space by not having to

[Elecraft] KIO3 Board

2017-03-08 Thread Ed Gray W0SD
I now have a KIO3 board! Thanks I have a K3 #3423 and I need a KIO3 audio board. I don't want to go to the KIO3B stuff. Does anyone have one I could buy? You can contact me off list. Ed W0SD __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Don Pomplun
TNX for all the helpful replies. A few referred to the K3S's "built-in sound card", which I didn't think was correct. But reading Fred's K3 book (p.165) I get the impression that this is indeed the case, presumably eliminating all the fiddling with audio interfacing and level tweaking that

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Support email

2017-03-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Doug, I don't know what is going on with that particular email address, but try k3supp...@elecraft.com - it all goes to the same place. Elecraft has recently changed their email structure (should be no impact to the customer), but there may be a temporary glitch in the system. 73, Don W3FPR

[Elecraft] K3- Separate AGC settings needed for: CW, SSB, RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread ANDY NEHAN
I agree that an AGC which can be set by mode would be useful, but I suspect that the chaps have multiple requests for enhancements! Andy G4HUE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

[Elecraft] AGC and RTTY Decoding (was [K3] AGC White Paper)

2017-03-08 Thread j...@kk9a.com
This is a very interesting post Ed! I will definitely will try these AGC settings in the next RTTY contest. John KK9A - W4AAA Ed Muns w0yk said: Tue Mar 7 21:48:52 EST 2017 Below is a thread from 7 March 2016 about AGC usage with RTTY decoders. David Wicks, G3YYD, is the author of 2Tone and

[Elecraft] Elecraft Support email

2017-03-08 Thread Doug Person
My emails to supp...@elecraft.com are bouncing. "The response from the remote server was: The partner did not specify the domain to relay the email" Doug -- K0DXV __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Peter Lambert
Do you not like the KX2 compressor ?, don't use it ?, so much so that you take the TT-715 along portable or at home strictly ?. Interested in your observations. If there is such a huge difference in compressors I think certain gents that monitor this list might see that as a challenge. 73's

[Elecraft] K3- Separate AGC settings needed for: CW, SSB, RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Dick via Elecraft
Ed's message is another confirmation on why it would be really great if Elecraft would modify the K3 software so the MENU would allow us to select separate AGC settings for: CW, SSB, and RTTY. I realize this may be a first, but Elecraft is good at leading the pack! 73, Dick- K9OM

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Scott Mcdonald via Elecraft
The KX2 was pretty thoroughly reviewed by Peter Hart in the January 2017 edition of RadCom. Without trying to reproduce the receiver data tables, some representative numbers are: 3.5 MHz close in IMD (500 Hz bandwidth, 2 kHz spacing with preamp off) yielded a 3rd order intercept of +15 dBm

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Phil Hystad
I have ONLY operated QRP and 10 watts with my KX3 and that is all I plan to do with my KX2. Operating QRP with a compromise antenna is a challenge and it is fun. I am surprised that more people do not love this. Of course CW only! 73, phil, K7PEH > I think the Sherwood ranking to KX2 means

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Ignacy
I think the Sherwood ranking to KX2 means nothing unless you have a KW amp (e.g., Expert 1.3k after mods) and run it in a contest or DXpeditions. After all, nobody will hear you. Also nobody will hear your IMD3 except your next door neighbor. The biggest values of a QRP radio are: 1) convenience

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Phil Hystad
> You're correct. But in fairness, those items should be based on a standard > output power (not everyone wants QRP) and we already know that you're the > only company concerned about those points and you're the clear winner. ;-) > Actually, I think many if not most ham operators want the

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Rick WA6NHC
You're correct. But in fairness, those items should be based on a standard output power (not everyone wants QRP) and we already know that you're the only company concerned about those points and you're the clear winner. ;-) As I had said, it's more than numbers. There are many other

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Wayne Burdick
Too bad Rob's table doesn't have columns for size, weight, or current drain. I think the KX2 might have the lowest numbers in all three categories. 73, Wayne N6KR On Mar 8, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote: > Remember that Rob is usually LOANed a radio (by an

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Rick WA6NHC
Remember that Rob is usually LOANed a radio (by an individual or manufacturer) for an extended period of time. In a very few cases, he buys/owns the radio. I know of few that would loan out their brand new radio for a month or more instead of actually using it. So if someone wants to loan

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Mike Morrow
> Can't say for sure but doubt it has been reviewed yet. It is still > pretty new. It's been on the market for ten months...long enough for a popular rig to be reviewed. There's been nothing in QST's product reviews either. But then, Elecraft has not released much technical information

[Elecraft] For Sale RemoteRig 1258 MkII

2017-03-08 Thread Brian D. Comer
For Sale: RemoteRig 1258 MkII set with wifi added + Cables and RRC Micro Client. Like new condition used very little total cost was $909.75 from Elecraft and HRO Asking $720. Will break out parts if there is interest. If interested please contact me directly, off the reflector. 73 Brian

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Bill Frantz
In the CQ WPX RTTY contest I ran RUMlog's contest logger which uses the K3 programming interface to encode and decode RTTY*. I also ran cocoaModem using the KIO3B's "sound card"#. I used its crossed loop indicator for tuning and occasionally looked at its decode. The combination worked quite

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Matt Murphy
I would guess that it will perform nearly identically to a high serial number KX3, but it would be great to see some actual test results. 73, Matt NQ6N On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: > Can't say for sure but doubt it has been reviewed yet. It is still

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Mike Rhodes
Can't say for sure but doubt it has been reviewed yet. It is still pretty new. Mike / W8DN On 3/8/2017 12:58 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: I looked and I couldn’t find it. The KX2 being covered by the Sherwood Engineering Performance Rank table. Does anyone know if this is purposely skipped over

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Jim Brown
I can't comment on the quality of the K3S USB interface, because I don't own one. The decoder built into the K3 is pretty good, often as good or better than the software decoder. When used with a keyboard and P3/SVGA setup, it's pretty good for casual operation, and even for a DX pileup. My

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
There is a lot of great RTTY software out there, and it works with standard sound cards -- like the one built-in to the K3S. 73 -- Lynn On 3/8/2017 9:10 AM, Don Pomplun wrote: For you experienced RTTY'ers, is the built-in capability considered on a par with using a separate sound card

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Dave Fugleberg
I'm not a huge RTTY guy, but I do operate it on occasion. The big performance difference with using a PC is that there are several decoders available, each with different strengths. These decoders typically have a lot of options that can be tweaked to optimize them for conditions. It's also

Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
For you experienced RTTY'ers, is the built-in capability considered on a par with using a separate sound card interface and separate RTTY PC software, Not even close! 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/8/2017 12:10 PM, Don Pomplun wrote: I've just started playing with RTTY with my K3S using the

[Elecraft] KX2 and Sherwood Eng. RX Performance Ranking?

2017-03-08 Thread Phil Hystad
I looked and I couldn’t find it. The KX2 being covered by the Sherwood Engineering Performance Rank table. Does anyone know if this is purposely skipped over for some reason, not covered yet, or is it there and I can’t find it sort of thing? Thanks for any comments. 73, phil, K7PEH

[Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

2017-03-08 Thread Don Pomplun
I've just started playing with RTTY with my K3S using the "built-in" capabilities for decoding and the Utility program. I'm still at the stage of fiddling with the little lines to tune in a RTTY signal properly. For you experienced RTTY'ers, is the built-in capability considered on a par

Re: [Elecraft] Augment KX3 or buy K3?

2017-03-08 Thread David Anderson via Elecraft
Morgan, you make some good points about the pros and cons, but I would take issue with one point, the IC-7300 is very easy to change CW speed - one click of the multi knob and twist it to the speed you want when you are in CW mode. Like all radios you have to spend a bit of time learning how

Re: [Elecraft] Augment KX3 or buy K3?

2017-03-08 Thread Morgan Bailey
If you are even marginally serious about operating around other rigs (field day), forget using the 7300. It does not have the necessary filtering to be useful in that environment. Forget CW pileups with the 7300. The comment on buttons is rather laughable when you mention the 7300, one knob and

Re: [Elecraft] Augment KX3 or buy K3?

2017-03-08 Thread John Dolan
I tried the Icom 7300. it is a good budget rig. As they say it is an "Entry Level" ham rig. My advice: Stay with Elecraft, you already know how good those rigs are. *Many of life's problems can be solved by simply deciding what we can do without. -John Dolan *

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 155, Issue 8

2017-03-08 Thread Barry
Hello Gareth, I was in the same position as you about 3 years ago as I was left some money. I thought about the options for about 2 months and went for the KX3, PX3 & 100W linear and the ATU. I have not regretted my choice. Having a caravan and using just the KX3 I have never had any