[Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread Enno J. Korma, PF5X
Hi gang, Apart from the fundamental discussion do you really need ALC yes/no, I have raised this issue already quite some time ago. I have an SPE 1K-FA and K3 on order, and I want to work both full power barefoot as well as with the amp, but do not want to run the risk to accidentally overdrive

Re: [Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jerry and all, OTOH, I would be quite uncomfortable purchasing a modern SS amplifier that did not implement protection from excessive SWR without depending on the exciter to throttle back the power. To my mind, depending on some external device (the exciter) to protect the amp is a recipe

Re: [Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread Jerry Flanders
At 02:59 PM 12/3/2007, Enno, PF5X wrote: Hi gang, SNIP A very quick response from Wayne gave the following info. Sufficient to cool the discussion for a while I would say ... Not so - Wayne's comments seem directed at those who might want to use ALC as if it were a substitute for the mike

Re: [Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread Vic K2VCO
Jerry Flanders wrote: Not so - Wayne's comments seem directed at those who might want to use ALC as if it were a substitute for the mike gain control. It worries me when I see the discussion wander away from amplifier safety in an antenna catastrophe situation, which is my main concern. I

Re: [Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread David Wilburn
I admit, I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but to see a reference to an amp, and the words 'full power' and RTTY, all together? Wow. That raised my eyebrows. With the power density of RTTY, isn't that a full blown stress test of your complete RF system, at 100% duty cycle, or

Re: [Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread Jerry Flanders
At 05:03 PM 12/3/2007, Don Wilhelm wrote: Jerry and all, OTOH, I would be quite uncomfortable purchasing a modern SS amplifier that did not implement protection from excessive SWR without depending on the exciter to throttle back the power. Good point. I think I would prefer this also. But

Re: [Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I used to run 5KW AM all day long myself with nary a break. Had to check the plate current every half hour or so but that was about it. I think the amp was using 813's but I can't remember. Of course, we were on 300 meters back then. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 2:41 pm, Greg - AB7R

Re: [Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread Greg - AB7R
There are amps out there that will do full legal limit in RTTY all day long with the exciter at 30-50W. Some of these amps are not stressed at all at that level and are just loafing along happy as can be. :) - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Mon

Re: [Elecraft] ALC: issues raised almost 2 month ago + answer from Elecraft

2007-12-03 Thread Joe, aa4nn
Right on, Don. The amp must protect itself by itself and for itself. Like Overdrive, High SWR, Hi drain current, ad infinitum. Modern SS amplifiers all have this built in protection. Like many, I have never used ALC, being CW only, but I take care of drive power to protect the amplifier. de Joe,