Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

You mean Bob Shrader W6BNB? 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On May 26, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Dave Fugleberg wrote: > > Schraeder was the text for my Communications class in tech school in the > early 80s. > One requirement to pass the course was to earn the FCC

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

Schraeder was the text for my Communications class in tech school in the early 80s. One requirement to pass the course was to earn the FCC General Class Radiotelephone license. I believe nearly everyone in the class did. It also made it pretty easy to upgrade my ham ticket from Novice to Advanced

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

Phil, Yes, I'm catching up on e-mail. Your description of physics cirriculum brought me back to my high school physics which was called "PSSC" based on the work done at MIT and described in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Science_Study_Committee. I had been licensed a couple of years

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

Raised hand. Wes  N7WS On 4/8/2018 3:45 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: hmmm, well I'm hearing a lot of opinion expressed. First off, how many of you have acctually built ckts for10-GHz+? (show of hands)  And of you who did, how many worked the first time as designed without "tinkering"? 

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Hey, Ed, Piece of cake! (10 Ghz) But I worked up to it slowly. Building gear  for the lower microwave bands sure helped with wrapping my head around the problems encountered there.  I loved pipe cap filters!! Now I am having a real hard time getting my 160 meter receive antennas to work!! I

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

Searching the PDF circuit diagrams for the Elecraft radios is how you follow a signal from page to page. That, is an important survival technique. 73 Bill AE6JV On 4/8/18 at 1:52 PM, eric.c...@gmail.com (EricJ) wrote: It doesn't seem to be well-known but many pdf documents are searchable.

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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke 73 Bill AE6JV On 4/8/18 at 12:23 PM, j...@audiosystemsgroup.com (Jim Brown) wrote: > In other words, all of the things that can often be ignored at lower > frequencies must be considered > at higher

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

I have both the first and second editions of the book. The first came out in 1980; the second in 1989. The first edition had 716 pages; the second 1125. 73,Pete - N8TR At 01:42 PM 4/8/2018, donov...@starpower.net wrote: Hi Robie, The free Second Edition pdf is quite dated (1980), but work

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hmmm, well I'm hearing a lot of opinion expressed. First off, how many of you have acctually built ckts for10-GHz+? (show of hands) And of you who did, how many worked the first time as designed without "tinkering"? Snow-flaking is a well known method of "tweaking" the circuit to get it to

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

It doesn't seem to be well-known but many pdf documents are searchable. That's the case with this one. I have a bound and severely dog-earred Second Edition, but this pdf is going to make it even more useful. Ctrl-F brings up the search box like it always does. Enter text (not text in

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I don't know why people say stuff like that.  Just because some variables become more important at RF than they did at lower frequencies doesn't turn design into art or magic. Dave AB7E On 4/8/2018 11:45 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote: On 2018-04-08 3:42 PM, mike.ab...@gmail.com wrote: It

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

On 4/8/2018 11:45 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote: As the frequency goes up it RF design becomes part science and part art, or some might say black magic. A better way of thinking about it is that as frequency goes up, stray (parasitic) elements of components become increasingly significant (that is,

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On 2018-04-08 3:42 PM, mike.ab...@gmail.com wrote: It would be a foundation that makes RF design easy to follow, though. Easier? Perhaps. Depends in part on the frequencies involved. As the frequency goes up it RF design becomes part science and part art, or some might say black magic. --

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

Thanks for the like for the free 2nd edition. I know many regard math as difficult, but a book I used when teaching at Valparaiso Tech Institute was "Basic Math for Electronics by Nelson M. Cooke. It taught math by using many electronics formulas and therefore was invaluable to help students

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

On 2018-04-08 01:42 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote: The free Second Edition pdf is quite dated (1980), but work every penny of the price! Thanks for the information. I have the 3rd edition sitting on a bookshelf. I'll add the second edition to my eReader. For those reading AoF and want

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of donov...@starpower.net Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 13:43 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics Hi Robie, The free Second Edition pdf is quite dated (1980), but work every penny of the price! 73

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rom: "Robie Elms" <rule...@gmail.com> > To: donov...@starpower.net > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 4:46:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics > > Thanks for all the feedback. I’ll look at the pdf 2nd version first! &g

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6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics Thanks for all the feedback. I’ll look at the pdf 2nd version first! Robie > On Apr 8, 2018, at 11:13, donov...@starpower.net wrote: > > > The current Third Edition is available in used but like new condition for

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

; > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike Markowski" <mike.ab...@gmail.com> > To: "Robie Elms" <rule...@gmail.com> > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 3:42:39 PM > Subject: Re:

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

/items/TheArtOfElectronics-2ndEdition/the-art-of-electronics.pdf 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Mike Markowski" <mike.ab...@gmail.com> To: "Robie Elms" <rule...@gmail.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 3:42:39

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

I own the second edition and I also own the student manual that goes along with the book. To judge the usefulness of this book, it is good to learn why it exists. As you read in the preface to the first edition, the book grew out of notes from a course at Harvard University on "laboratory

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

Hi all, new ham/KX3 owner/list member here. When this question came up in another forum, one member advised: "The second edition has circuit ideas and examples, where the third edition replaced it with chapter review exercises (more like an academic textbook). I have no interest in the

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

Robie, I don't have all editions to compare, but think newest is usually best. Maybe others know better? The book is an intro, though very detailed!, and doesn't cover much in the way of RF to my recollection. It would be a foundation that makes RF design easy to follow, though. Others

Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

Which edition is the most useful for hams? Robie AJ4F > On Apr 8, 2018, at 10:14, Mike Markowski wrote: > > Chuck and all, > > It really is a great book, the best I've found on the topic for my style of > learning. I really like math but also need concrete examples.

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Chuck and all, It really is a great book, the best I've found on the topic for my style of learning. I really like math but also need concrete examples. I like their approach of "here's how we might approach this," leading to shortcomings, to how to improve, etc. Very methodical rather