Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dick, That was possible, and done commonly back in the old days of vacuum tube gear with open inductors and not too much else to be harmed by the water (once dried out), it worked just fine as long as lubricants were added to things like capacitor shafts after the 'washing'. Today with ICs

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Looks like we have beaten this one to death. ;-) Time to end the thread. In general, please self moderate (limiting the number of posts on a topic) and do not wait for me to jump in, as I can get busy or may be out of town when these long threads occur. 73, Eric Moderator (hopefully not

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Richard Fjeld
I read about guys whose rigs were flooded a few years back, and they washed them in water and dried them somehow. Said they worked fine after that. Hard to imagine though. Dick, n0ce On 7/27/2016 1:15 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: My S3-line acquired a chronic case of creeping fungus on the

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Wes Stewart
I remember the good old days when it was rosin flux and Freon TF in a vapor degreaser :-) Then my employer (Hughes) invented "lemon juice" flux as we called it, and gave away the patent. On 7/27/2016 2:11 PM, Clay Autery wrote: As I originally said, "NOT recommending this because it

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
You may want to note that Elecraft does not recommend cleaning flux at all. Those working in support and repair for the thru-hole legacy line may see a board we have to work on that is so covered with flux residue that it has to be removed. Even then, we work with cotton swabs in a small area

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Clay Autery
t; > > 73Gary K9GS > > > Original message > From: Clay Autery <caut...@montac.com> > Date: 07/27/2016 1:18 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3 > > 99% Isopropyl alcohol is the approv

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Gary K9GS
have to know what you're using.  73Gary K9GS Original message From: Clay Autery <caut...@montac.com> Date: 07/27/2016 1:18 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3 99% Isopropyl alcohol is the approved solvent for getting fl

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Gary K9GS
: Josh Fiden <j...@voodoolab.com> Date: 07/27/2016 2:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3 DI water is the standard, usually in a closed loop system. Most process now use water soluble flux. If not, sometimes a wash with addition of

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
In a production environment, acid flux is almost universal. Rosin flux requires solvents and the local air pollution cops watch you very closely. The solvents are more likely to damage components than water. A proper wave soldering system does a great job of displacing the flux, and water

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Josh Fiden
DI water is the standard, usually in a closed loop system. Most process now use water soluble flux. If not, sometimes a wash with addition of soap and/or solvent is done prior to the DI water rinsing. 73, Josh W6XU On 7/27/2016 11:15 AM, Fred Jensen wrote: circuit boards used to be washed

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Russ
] On Behalf Of John Severyn Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:16 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3 I will second Dick's caution of using any high pressure air or gas. The high flow rates can cause static charge buildup on higher impedance parts, causing over

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread John Severyn
I will second Dick's caution of using any high pressure air or gas. The high flow rates can cause static charge buildup on higher impedance parts, causing over-voltage failures. Keep the flow rate and pressure lowdo not use an air compressor hose. The static buildup can happen no matter

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Clay Autery
99% Isopropyl alcohol is the approved solvent for getting flux, et al off boards... It evaps rapidly and is water soluble... __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 7/27/2016 1:15 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > My S3-line acquired a chronic case of creeping

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Fred Jensen
My S3-line acquired a chronic case of creeping fungus on the chassis while packed up and stored in the Philippines for 4 years. Returning home, I took it to the DIY car wash a couple of times and then dried it in the sun. Seemed to work really well, except for the fungi living in the IF

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Clay Autery
Cleaning a REALLY dusty unit is always better to VACUUM with a static protected unit with a HEPA filter FIRST... Then, blow out what you can't reach with a vacuum second (outside), preferably with the chassis completely open. NOT recommending this because it requires a great deal of

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Richard Fjeld
Be careful if using a vacuum cleaner. A static build-up can develop. I have seen it cause arcing. That may have been a hose with metal fittings. There is also a metal spring inside the hose that can conduct. Perhaps an attachment with a brush for the hose will avoid a discharge. Dick, n0ce

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Hi Bill, the same what suggested Vic, the pressed air gun (like reverse-connected vacuum cleaner tool) to blow the dust out I am using in our company for rough cleaning of the testing equipment time to time. Important things are to protect fans (as Vic mentioned too) from the over-spining.

Re: [Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP
I always cleaned computers (I worked for an agricultural software company and some of our customers' computers could have had crops planted in them) with a reverse-connected vacuum cleaner to blow the dust out. This must be done outdoors, of course! You need to be careful not to spin fans with

[Elecraft] Cleaning a K3

2016-07-27 Thread Bill Frantz
My K3 (and P3) were used in a very dusty environment in eastern Nevada. Some people there compared the dust levels to those at burning man. Does anyone have any advice about cleaning the equipment? 73 Bill AE6JV --- Bill