Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-15 Thread Kurt Pawlikowski
John, Et Al, I am reading some really good ideas. Here's one I used... While building my KX-1: When I conducted my inventory, I taped the resistors, inductors and capacitors right to the pages of the book. Okay... A little funky, but 1) I knew the inventory was correct when I was done

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-15 Thread Darwin, Keith
Tape - cardboard - plastic - paper - A My ESD training (what little I've had) is causing all sorts of alarm bells to go off! I fear that many of us have taken techniques that worked fine in the pre-ESD days and are applying them in cases where they are dangerous. Yea, I know that caps

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-15 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
Tools I found useful: - Magnifying ring light I far prefer an Optivisor. It makes it easy to look at the item in question with or without magnification, depending on distance - I can position the workpiece and the instruction manual such that I can shift my view from one to the other without

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-15 Thread Kurt Pawlikowski
Keith, You are, of course, right, but 1) I do have an ESD mat (and use it!), and, 2) no, I didn't tape down the sensitive components. I will say this though: Doing this helped a lot because there are several components that could have easily been confused (some inductors and a resistor or

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-15 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message- ... no, I didn't tape down the sensitive components. -- From an ESD point of view, that's cool, but when you pull the tape away from the paper, you're generating a static charge which may make it to your 1/2 populated board and cause problems

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-15 Thread AJSOENKE
It rarely happens because a lot comes into play, humidity, proximity of certain clothing, walking on carpet,etc. If Humidity is up around 60% or higher, not wearing wool or synthetics, and not a lot of foot traffic on the wool carpet next to your workspace, you have probably nailed down

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Brett gazdzinski
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Huggins Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:09 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2 OK so I have decided to buy the base K2 kit and build it along with my son; He needs to see a process

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread David Wilburn
Must haves == Good light Magnifying glass Dental pick Negative lock tweezers (big ones do not send parts flying) Good Multi-meter Handy items === Frequency counter - or you can wait till all is complete and use WWV/Spectogram Capacitance meter - not required, but it helped me

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread sbm
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Brett gazdzinski wrote: The caps I tried to organize in piles on the desk with the values written in pencil on the desk, there are a LOT of caps and a LOT of different valuesa LOT of piles ergo, a nice big, clean table space for all the piles is ideal. If

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread David Wilburn
Yes, plastic organizer boxes did help. In the craft section at Wal-Mart. Sorted and inventoried parts and put caps, diodes, resistors in one, and misc hardware in the other. Helped out quite a bit. David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 #5982 David Wilburn wrote: Must haves ==

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, Congratulations on your decision. Equip yourself with a set of flush cutters if you don't already have them - while diagonal cutters will be OK for the K2, flush cutters are required in a few areas of the KPA100 and several other options - overall they make a neater finished product.

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Darwin, Keith
Rework Eliminators - They're great provided you are willing to spend the time to make sure they get installed right. They represent a departure from the normal build process and if you mess things up, then debugging may be tougher. I went with them, and was careful. I had only one bad solder

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Just a comment here - keep the ICs and transistors in their black foam (or pink plastic bags) ESD safe holders. Remember that many plastics can build a static charge. I suggest that you ignore any thoughts about sticking the components into styrofoam - that does generate static. As another

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Solosko, Robert B (Bob)
pull it out of the tape. Good luck. Bob W1SRB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robie Elms Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:45 AM To: John Huggins; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [SPAM?] Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2 John, I

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Lyle Johnson
Tools I found useful: - Magnifying ring light I find an Optivisor works much better for me. A ring light magnifier gives me a headache, besides being bulky and hard on whatever it is clamped to... 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Lee Buller
John, Everyone has great ideas. Here are mine. I like the visor as well. I got one for five bucks. Very good to have. I also use ice cube trays (Plastic) for a parts bin. Sometimes things do not fit will, but it does work quite well. You can use muffin tins as well, but I would not

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread David King
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, Brett gazdzinski wrote: The caps I tried to organize in piles on the desk with the values written in pencil on the desk, there are a LOT of caps and a LOT of different valuesa LOT of piles ergo, a nice big, clean table space for all

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Craig D. Smith
Congratulations on your decision to build a K2 with your son. I concur with the advice you are getting about having good lighting, ESD protection, vice, etc. If you don't already have them, I think a great way to introduce your son into the kit building process would be to have him build the

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Tom Hammond
At 08:28 08/14/2007, Don Wilhelm wrote: As another personal taste note, I find that digging into a cup-like or box-like container to extract parts is a pain - I line up leaded parts by value and stick their leads into the edge of corrugated cardboard. A USPS Priority Mail box cut in half

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Huggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2 OK so I have decided to buy the base K2 kit and build it along with my son; He needs to see a process like this unfold. I have read the various FAQs, tips, etc. I

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Perhaps it deserves saying the obvious: DO NOT USE FOAM CONTAINERS FOR ELECTRONIC PARTS!! (Unless, perhaps, you're working with vacuum tubes G) Expanded foam in any form is a wonderful static generator. It doesn't take enough static to see or feel a spark to destroy parts, only enough to exceed

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Joe-aa4nn
Egg cartons for trays de Joe, aa4nn You can get ice cube trays at the Dollar General Storeor other small plastic containers as well. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list.

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Richard Kent
John, My son is 14. He has gone with me to help setup field day. He currently has the furthest from home contact. I am building my second K2 (K2/100 when done). I bought the DL1 and XG2 from what I learned from the first K2. I supervised my son as he built the mini-modules. He saw the

RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Phil Kane
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:26:19 -0500, Craig Rairdin wrote: If your eyes require it, get a god magnifier. God magnifiers are also good for spotting the devil, who is said to be in the details. Either way a good god magnifier is worth the investment. Note that one of the holiness prayers of the

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread John Huggins
Thank you all for the comments. A rough summary includes: - Think ESD for the parts (no worries there... I am the ESD promoter at our electronics lab at work) - No parts in non ESD foam - No parts in cardboard, etc. - Small anti-static mat with wrist straps, etc. - Keep active parts in

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-14 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
I buolt a cute circuit with a 2n7000 from an idea I saw at the Maker Faire.. It is an E field probe: you can light up (or extinguish, depending on your charge polarity) an LED with the proximity of your finger from half a foot. It can be very instructive in seeing where you have static, and

[Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-13 Thread John Huggins
OK so I have decided to buy the base K2 kit and build it along with my son; He needs to see a process like this unfold. I have read the various FAQs, tips, etc. I am not new to kit building. We have a good soldering station. If the K2 works out well we will use it on CW for a while and then

Re: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2

2007-08-13 Thread Robie Elms
] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 11:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2 OK so I have decided to buy the base K2 kit and build it along with my son; He needs to see a process like this unfold. I have read the various FAQs, tips, etc. I am not new to kit building