Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-13 Thread Erik Basilier
er 13, 2018 8:13 AM To: dave Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding To connect flat braid to equipment I have simply tinned the end and drilled an appropriate size hole thru the tinned end. Simplest form of rin

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-13 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Nope.  That is the same grounding scheme I've used for years. The 3rd pin safety ground is really all that is needed for the station inside. As to lightning protection, that is done outside of the house and takes into account the tower, the rotor, the antennas and it is bonded outside of the

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-13 Thread Jan
Confession:  I never ground anything, except via the 3-conductor power cords . . . . Am I the only one? . . . . I've been a ham for 64 years, lived & operated in Michigan(first as Wn8SWN/W8SWN), in Malaysia (as 9M2JJ; 1962-64), in Finland (as OH1/K1ND/P for a week, 2003), in Maine (as WA1VZZ

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-13 Thread Jim Cassidy
To connect flat braid to equipment I have simply tinned the end and drilled an appropriate size hole thru the tinned end. Simplest form of ring lug. - Original Message - From: "dave" To: "Elecraft" Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 11:29:22 AM Subject: Re: [E

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-13 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
For the station bonding jumpers, #10 AWG auto primary wire with a ring terminal attached is very adequate.   Easy to work with, inexpensive, does the job,  and makes for a clean installation. Personally, I crimp {mechanical connection}  and solder {electrical connection} my ring terminals on

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-13 Thread Drew AF2Z
I *am* using a homemade lug, as stated. It's neater than cramming 1" of braid into the round barrel of a terminal lug. The braid lays flat right off the screw terminal and onto the desk surface, no bunching into the lug. 73, Drew AF2Z On 10/12/18 22:57, Don Wilhelm wrote: Why try to connect

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread donovanf
- From: "Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 4:03:11 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding My shack is only about 6m below my antenna, and although there is a concrete roof between us, I had problems of RF pi

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
My shack is only about 6m below my antenna, and although there is a concrete roof between us, I had problems of RF pickup in my computer. My antenna is balanced, I used a lot of ferrites on the cables, and bonded all of the equipment together with copper straps. But the biggest improvement

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Bill Frantz
And when Bob, N6TV visited my station, the asked, "Why aren't you using a spade lug for K3 ground?" I could only say, "Duh!". 73 Bill AE6JV On 10/12/18 at 7:57 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote: Why try to connect the wire or braid directly to the ground lug? Soldering a lug

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Why try to connect the wire or braid directly to the ground lug? Soldering a lug onto the end of a wire or braid makes it "oh so easy" to attach. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/12/2018 6:29 PM, Drew AF2Z wrote: Yes, it is a hassle getting a stiff copper wire on that little ground screw. I use 1" braid

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Drew AF2Z
Yes, it is a hassle getting a stiff copper wire on that little ground screw. I use 1" braid with a strip of copper sheet folded and soldered over the end and a screw hole drilled through-- basically, homemade flat terminal lugs on the ends of the braid. Very easy to manage now. 73, Drew AF2Z

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/12/2018 2:32 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: Probably using braid or multi-strand wire would make it easier. Yes, but NEVER used braid exposed to moisture. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Edward R Cole
Probably using braid or multi-strand wire would make it easier. When I wired my safety ground to my 8877 PA chassis from ground rod, outside, I bought No. 8 awg. Still pretty stiff. I have 8-32 studs for connection. 2m-8877 was sold in June now all sspa with 12/28/50v PS. But one thing I

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Gary Smith
I too have paid attention to Jim, K9YC's advice. Nobody knows it all but he's proven to know enough to be an authority on the subject so I listen to what he has to say. To that end, I have put in a lot of effort to have the Antennas, roof tripod and breaker box tied together with #4 solid

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Hi Lee, When I got my K3 I rebuilt my shack from teh ground up, starting with the ground, with an eye to reduction of RFI. I took a lot of Jim's, suggestions, and I lost about 2 S units of noise. That process is detailed here: https://www.nk7z.net/rebuilding-the-shack/ 73s and thanks,

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 10/12/2018 10:02 AM, Jim McDonald wrote: I use braided copper strap, and my operating desk is about 2' away from the wall, so I can walk behind it. I wish I had done that when I set up my shack in the home I bought when I moved to California. On 10/12/2018 9:47 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Wes Stewart
I use a 14 AWG insulated stranded wire with a spade lug on it for the K3 side.  The other end is bolted to a clamp on the EMT that carries the AC service into the shack. As far as I'm concerned this is just a safety ground, not something worthy of an RF ground.  All of the other gear is

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Jim McDonald
I use braided copper strap, and my operating desk is about 2' away from the wall, so I can walk behind it. Jim N7US Sent from Samsung tablet Original message From: Leroy Buller Date: 10/12/18 11:47 AM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Confessions

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Craig Buck
I added two large washers over the post. Makes it easier to sandwich the ground braid between them. Poke a hole in the braid to go over the post. On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 12:49 PM Leroy Buller wrote: > Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground > your K3 or your

Re: [Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I bond each piece of equipment to a common ground terminal on my power supply.  I do not have any ground from the station to the outside.  Only the 3rd pin safety ground is in place.   The station is fed from a common 240V 4 wire service for the amp and other related equipment.  From the 240V

[Elecraft] Confessions of grounding

2018-10-12 Thread Leroy Buller
Ok, I just rebuilt my station and wonder how many of you actually ground your K3 or your rig? I have the amp and tuner grounded, but I find grounding the K3 somewhat difficult. Why? Getting my fat ham fingers to the rear if the rig and tighting up the knurled knob with stiff wire is quite