Re: [Elecraft] DMM

2018-03-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/20/2018 12:51 PM, Chip Stratton wrote: Many years ago I bought a Fluke 8060A DMM. It was indeed a fine instrument, and still sought after today by some for a couple of its unique features. However some 8 years later the LCD slowly faded to uselessness. I have two of them, and both had

Re: [Elecraft] DMM

2018-03-20 Thread hawley, charles j jr
rtainly, my Birds with their metal construction make the Keithley look > bad. > > 73, > Erik K7TV > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> > On > Behalf Of Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP > Sent: Monday,

Re: [Elecraft] DMM

2018-03-20 Thread Chip Stratton
rtainly, my Birds with their metal construction make the Keithley look > bad. > > 73, > Erik K7TV > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> > On > Behalf Of Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP > Sent: Monday, March 19

Re: [Elecraft] DMM

2018-03-20 Thread Erik Basilier
Erik K7TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:26 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DMM I have used numerous cheap meters (now I am playing

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-20 Thread hawley, charles j jr
-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Joe Subich, W4TV [li...@subich.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 8:29 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations > When taking reflected power readings the slug should be 1/10 of the > f

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-20 Thread Edward R Cole
Wow! I never knew the bird was a DMM! You can put down the Bird43 all you want, but check nearly every professional radio shop and every prof tech's tool bag and likely you will find a Bird. They work well and are quite durable riding in pickups, helicopters, boats, snowcats, etc. I

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread Charlie T
get into the "sub" hobby of Bird collecting, but I guess somewhere along I succumbed. 73,Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 11:54 PM To: elecraft@mail

Re: [Elecraft] DMM

2018-03-19 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
I have used numerous cheap meters (now I am playing with a pen-type meter I got from China for $23). They work, are usually relatively accurate, and have more features than most of us will use. But one thing I've noticed is that they take a longer time to take a measurement than the Fluke

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/19/2018 8:47 PM, Charlie T wrote: Low power 5W & 10W A slugs are available. Yes. I have some for VHF and UHF. I also bought the very nice LP100A from the estate of an SK. It came with only one sensor, so I sent it back to Larry for him to add a second one. It's permanently wired into

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread Charlie T
You can always use an A range Bird slug (25 to 60 MHz) on the upper end of the HF spectrum. It'll be accurate on 10 & 12 M and probably not too far off a little lower, but certainly not on 80 or 40 M. Low power 5W & 10W A slugs are available. 73 Charlie k3ICH

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
When taking reflected power readings the slug should be 1/10 of the forward slug value when testing a reasonably good antenna. So, a 100 watt forward slug would require a 10 watt reverse slug for reasonable accuracy. Unfortunately, the smallest HF slug Bird make is 25 Watts. That means any

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread JOE
I spoke to someone at Bird (when they were really Bird) years ago and I was told that the Bird wattmeter is accurate to ±5% of top scale.  This means that a 100 watt slug can be off ±5 watts _anywhere_ on the meter.  So, a transmitter emitting 50 watts out, using the Bird and a 100 watt slug,

[Elecraft] DMM

2018-03-19 Thread Bob DeHaney
There are a lot of used Flukes on EBay, maybe not the latest model, but for us perfect. That's where I bought mine, the price is right too. VY 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Chip Stratton
, KE9UW > aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] > on behalf of Dave Heil [k...@frontiernet.net] > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 10:30 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread hawley, charles j jr
10:30 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179? In the past, I had Fluke and Beckman meters and, in my days in industrial electronic sales, I sold both of them. In recent years, I've become a fan of the Chinese-made copies at Harbor Freight

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Charlie T
I know, lets start a thread about whether test leads should be red (+) and black (-), or black (hot) and white (neutral) or maybe combine it all to Euro standards of wiring with a Blue & Brown leads?. THAT should keep everyone busy at least till next Christmas, or as long as another "which

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread Bert Rollen
oun...@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of William Levy Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 3:47 PM To: hawley, charles j jr <c-haw...@illinois.edu> Cc: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations My use is as to check forward or reverse, really that my antennas

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Chuck, That is 5% of full scale with a recently calibrated slug. Another way to look at that percentage of full scale is to consider a 200 watt slug. The error can be as large as 10 watts *anywhere* on the scale. That is why I don't buy Bird wattmeters at hamfests unless it is cheap enough

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread William Levy
My use is as to check forward or reverse, really that my antennas are working. If I am running 500 watts out I put in a 500 watt element. If I have a 1500 watt amp I put in 2500w element. 100 watts here or there at 1500 watts doesn't matter. That the antenna is OK *really does matter!* I have

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Bird advertised and prints in the manual +/- 5% of full scale power. I remember some digital meters ARRL tested a few years back that did not do that well. Are your numbers something you experienced? Chuck KE9UW c-haw...@illinois.edu Sent from my iPad > On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Ken G Kopp

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Edward R Cole
I bought a Fluke-73 in 1984 and the dang thing took a lot of hits and kept on working. In final years cracked case was held together with electric tape until one day it died. I used is as professional technician all those years and six years into retirement. So...I bought another Fluke (on

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I’ve been using a Fluke 87 that I bought at the Ft. Wayne hamfest about 20 years ago. The seller had dozens of them in a big pile. It was $100 which seemed like a lot for a used meter, condition somewhat unknown, but I’ve never regretted it. Chuck KE9UW c-haw...@illinois.edu Sent from my iPad

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Suggestions

2018-03-19 Thread Dauer, Edward
Lots of helpful responses, as always from this group, including some possibilities I wasn't aware of. Many thanks to everyone who replied, on list and off. Ted, KN1CBR __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread Ken G Kopp
Bill, As long as one keeps in mind that Bird's reputatiom for accuracy has become a thing of the past. There are many more current products that surpass them. Always bear in mind that their odd meters (30 uA) are very non-linear and measurements made using element ranges that fall in the bottom

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Al Lorona
If we are to be consistent and follow advice from countless (delighted) Elecraft owners on this list, any buyer of test equipment like the DMM in question is going to ensure that the company will be easy to contact and work with and stand behind its product when necessary. Yes, many times I've

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
But on the theory that it’s better to buy the best first and cry only once, is the Fluke 179 worth the price? I have a Fluke 85 that I got 30 years or more ago and have never had a moment's problem/regret. In that time, I replaced many "off brand" instruments that simply did not hold up for

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Wes Stewart
When I was in aerospace we used to say, "If it works, it's a Fluke." On 3/19/2018 10:49 AM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft wrote: Ted As a 32 year metrology lab supervisor, we used MANY Fluke DMM models. I can’t speak highly enough of this manufacturer. Their actual accuracy is usually much

Re: [Elecraft] DMM recommendations

2018-03-19 Thread William Levy
A long time ago I was sitting with an old ham in his shack discussing purchasing a new SWR meter. I was going to buy some twenty buck job and he told me the following. "If you buy the 20 buck model, soon you will get the 30 buck and then the 40 buck and on and on until you finally buy the Bird.

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft
Ted As a 32 year metrology lab supervisor, we used MANY Fluke DMM models. I can’t speak highly enough of this manufacturer. Their actual accuracy is usually much better than the published specs. And are very rugged. I would have no reservations in purchasing one. Harlan K4HES Sent from my

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread EricJ
I have HB's top-of-the line autoranger for less than $40 and the next one down which is not autoranging for less than $25. One for the electronic shop and one for the garage. I build a LOT of electronic stuff and find them completely adequate for hobby level work. I only use AC/DC volts, amps,

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Chip Stratton
If looking for something more "name brand", the Greenlee DM-510A is made by Brymen. I have this and have been very happy with it. Also on Amazon. 73 Chip AE5KA On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote: > > My inexpensive DMM is becoming troublesome – internal

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Chip Stratton
For a good solid multimeter whose safety and features were spec'ed by Dave Jones of EEVBLOG fame, do a search on Amazon for EEVblog Brymen BM235 Multimeter That one will set you back $125, but it has just about all of what you need. For a bit less than $60, the UNI-T UT61E is a favorite. And for

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Johan Ymerson
There are certainly some decent cheap DMM's out there, but also some terrible. I had one (CH-something) that was quite accurate when the batteries was new, but when the battery voltage got lower, it showed >25% too much. It apparently used the battery voltage as voltage reference... Combined

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread David Fleming via Elecraft
+1 for the inexpensive offerings from Harbor Freight. I have several of these cheap knock offs. They’re certainly not professional grade instruments, but they are more than adequate for hobbiest level work. I use a small CEN-TECH model for quick voltage, resistance and current measurents.  It

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Phil Hystad
I own three DMMs and you can never have enough. Well, maybe you can. I use them because I am forever measuring multiple points in a circuit simultaneously. Not for ham radio but rather for hobby play with digital circuits. My Fluke 179 is clearly the best of the lot and the auto-ranging

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Charlie T
rlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Dauer, Edward Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 11:10 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179? My inexpensive DMM is beco

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Dave Heil
In the past, I had Fluke and Beckman meters and, in my days in industrial electronic sales, I sold both of them. In recent years, I've become a fan of the Chinese-made copies at Harbor Freight.  They have the functions but not the price.  At $19.99, I was able to buy a couple of them--one for

[Elecraft] DMM Recommendations -- Fluke 179?

2018-03-19 Thread Dauer, Edward
My inexpensive DMM is becoming troublesome – internal rotary switch contacts intermittent, requiring wriggling back and forth before it will give a reading on some ranges. And it has limited functions Some research suggested the Fluke 179. I would like to have autoranging, all the usual DMM

Re: [Elecraft] dmm vs vom

2008-10-09 Thread AJSOENKE
In a message dated 10/8/2008 11:03:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, Is there any problem using a VOM instead of a DMM to perform the resistance checks while building the K3? I have yet to make it fully into the modern era and to that end, do not have a DMM.

Re: [Elecraft] dmm vs vom

2008-10-09 Thread John W2XS
Be careful with some of the DMM's too. I did a study on the voltage produced at the leads for several brands of industry-standard meters at work. Here is one of them: Resistance RangeVoltage on the leads 0.2 ohms 12 volts 2 ohms 12 volts 20

[Elecraft] dmm vs vom

2008-10-08 Thread Jim Hoge
Hi all,   Is there any problem using a VOM instead of a DMM to perform the resistance checks while building the K3? I have yet to make it fully into the modern era and to that end, do not have a DMM.   Tnx es 73, Jim W5QM___ Elecraft mailing list Post

Re: [Elecraft] dmm vs vom

2008-10-08 Thread Bill W5WVO
a little more money at it gets you more bells and whistles, but it won't be significantly more accurate. Bill W5WVO - Original Message - From: Jim Hoge To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: [Elecraft] dmm vs vom Hi all

Re: [Elecraft] dmm vs vom

2008-10-08 Thread Lyle Johnson
Is there any problem using a VOM instead of a DMM to perform the resistance checks while building the K3? As long as the negative side of the internal battery that is feeding the resistance measurement circuit is applied to the ground side of whatever is being measured in the K3 during the

Re: [Elecraft] dmm vs vom

2008-10-08 Thread Bill W5WVO
- From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] dmm vs vom Is there any problem using a VOM instead of a DMM to perform the resistance checks while building the K3? As long as the negative side

[Elecraft] DMM question

2007-05-30 Thread Koaps
Hello all, I had a question about using a digital multimeter for AC millivolt measures. I have a radio shack 24-range DMM and when I set it to mV it never seems to go to zero, its constantly counting numbers from 30-100 mV with the leads not connected to anything. If I change the range to .000

Re: [Elecraft] DMM question

2007-05-30 Thread Jack Smith
Chris: A DVM has relatively high input impedance and will pick up stray 60 Hz and other things floating around (AM broadcast, perhaps) when the leads are open. In essence, the leads act like a small dipole receiving antenna. Short the leads together and it should read a lot closer to zero,

Re: [Elecraft] DMM question

2007-05-30 Thread Koaps
Thanks Jack, I wasn't sure what was going on but figured it was something to do with RF in room. There's a repeater a mile or two from me and my computer and TV on so maybe that was driving it nuts. I just figured when I was asked to do the AC checks, setting the DMM to mV(actually is was on its

RE: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-05 Thread Darwin, Keith
I needed (wanted) a new DMM a few months ago. Initially was leaning toward Fluke but didn't want to spend the money. I ended up buying an Extech off e-bay. It in the Mouser catalog for $200+. I got mine for about $90 or so, new in the box. I think it was a discontinued model as the seller had

RE: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Barker
Wow! A meter that receives Voice Of America? Who'd a thought that? Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 snip The meter does cap and freq measurements as well as V-O-A. /snip ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post

RE: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-05 Thread Darwin, Keith
OK, Ok, smarty-pants, I'll spell it out ... Volts - ohms - amps. :-) LOL!~ - Keith KD1E - - K2 5411 - -Original Message- From: Dan Barker Wow! A meter that receives Voice Of America? Who'd a thought that? snip The meter does cap and freq measurements as well as V-O-A. /snip

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-03 Thread John Young
Paul I think meters are like shirts - one size does NOT fit all. I have my 20 year old Fluke 73, several $2.99 Harbor Freight DMMs and some in between. Each fills a need. In the case of the Harbor Freight it is almost cheaper to buy a new meter than replace the 9v battery. When you blow

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-03 Thread Thom R LaCosta
On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, John Young wrote: Each fills a need. In the case of the Harbor Freight it is almost cheaper to buy a new meter than replace the 9v battery. When you blow up a cheap meter you can just pull out a spare and get back to work. Kinda like watches 73,Thom-k3hrn

Fw: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-03 Thread n4dsp
03, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation On Sun, 3 Sep 2006, John Young wrote: Each fills a need. In the case of the Harbor Freight it is almost cheaper to buy a new meter than replace the 9v battery. When you blow up a cheap meter you can just pull out a spare and get

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-03 Thread Rajiv Dewan, N2RD
One of the characteristics I look for is response time / refresh time / time to read. It is much easier to make adjustments that depend on measured voltage or resistance if the meter quicks refreshes the readings. Some multimeters, especially some of the Flukes, are excellent in this regard.

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-03 Thread John Young
Raj Good point on the refresh time. I never liked tuning for a peak or dip using a digital meter. Guess my analog brain doesn't like living in a digital world. I've picked up old analog VTVMs for a buck or two at hamfests and converted them to FET op amps in place of the tubes. Zero

RE: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-03 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
John, WA8KNE wrote: Good point on the refresh time. I never liked tuning for a peak or dip using a digital meter. Guess my analog brain doesn't like living in a digital world. I've picked up old analog VTVMs for a buck or two at hamfests and converted them to FET op amps in place of the

[Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Neuman
I looking to purchase a decent DMM and would appreciate any recommendations of specific models. I've had two crappy Radio Shack DMMs blow up on me. Each time I bought one, I promised myself it was only until I could get something good ordered and then promptly put it off. Well now I'm

RE: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendation

2006-09-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Paul, KD2MX, asked: I looking to purchase a decent DMM and would appreciate any recommendations of specific models. I've had two crappy Radio Shack DMMs blow up on me. Each time I bought one, I promised myself it was only until I could get something good ordered and then promptly put it off.

[Elecraft] Re: (Elecraft) DMM advise?

2006-01-23 Thread Robert C. Abell
Stephanie, DigiKey ships from Canada via Purolater Courier. If you order by e-mail today you will receive your order tomorrow, I kid you not. I have used their service many times with this result. They also quote prices in their catalog in Canadian Dollars which makes it easier. 73, Bob

[Elecraft] DMM advice?

2006-01-22 Thread Louis LaCour
Hello all... Have been lurking here for a while soaking up some wisdom in anticipation of receipt of my K2. As I lost all of my tools etc. in Katrina, I'm in the process of re-stocking, including a new digital multimeter. I've poked around on the net some, but the choices are truly bewildering.

Re: [Elecraft] DMM advice?

2006-01-22 Thread Joe-aa4nn
Check out the BK 2707A which has exceptional features/capabilities; too many to mention here, for around $80USD. Used here for 3+ years. de Joe, aa4nn - Have been lurking here for a while soaking up some wisdom in anticipation of receipt of my K2.

Re: [Elecraft] DMM advice?

2006-01-22 Thread Jim Wiley
Louis - The Velleman 890L is a versatile instrument at a reasonable price. It has all the usual functions plus capacitance measurement, transistor hFE, temperature (includes probe), frequency to 20 KHz, current ranges to 20 amperes, and auto-shutoff so you don't run the battery down.

RE: [Elecraft] DMM advice?

2006-01-22 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Louis, KE5GIU asked: Have been lurking here for a while soaking up some wisdom in anticipation of receipt of my K2. As I lost all of my tools etc. in Katrina, I'm in the process of re-stocking, including a new digital multimeter. I've poked around on the net some, but the choices are truly

RE: [Elecraft] DMM advice?

2006-01-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Louis, I picked up an ESCORT EDM-163 at Dayton several years ago (new) at a good price (about $65) for the features it offered - Handheld, Auto power off, auto-ranging with manual override, bargraph display as well as digital, current measurement to 10 Amps and down to 200 uA, diode forward

RE: [Elecraft] DMM advice?

2006-01-22 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Just a quick note here. I got a real cheap DMM for free wih my soldering iron with way too few digits to be of use. However, I bought a mini dmm when I was in Japan that is still my favorite when I can find it. Most of my measurements (and repairs, I've found) are things like, Is there power? or,

Re: [Elecraft] DMM advice?

2006-01-22 Thread Stephanie Maks
Just remember: a cheap DMM is so much nicer than having no DMM. I'm not sure I agree with this statement. During alignment test II of my K2, my cheap DMM went wonky on me. Looking for VCO voltages on R30, and no matter what I tried, I only got a few dozen millivolts. So I checked for

[Elecraft] DMM for XG2 testing

2005-10-23 Thread Ken Bessler
Does a multimeter used for MDS testing with the XG2 *have* to be one that reads RMS? 73 de Ken KGØWX - Flying Pigs #-1055 Elecraft K2 #4913 - Kadiddlehoppers #11,807 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a

RE: [Elecraft] DMM for XG2 testing

2005-10-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
, it is far easier to just use an 'ordinary' DMM. 73, Don W3FPR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Bessler Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:53 AM To: Elecraft Main Group Subject: [Elecraft] DMM for XG2 testing Does a multimeter used

Re: [Elecraft] DMM for XG2 testing

2005-10-23 Thread G3VVT
In a message dated 23/10/05 15:32:01 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most multimeters, when used for AC measurements, do in fact read RMS values. Specialized meters do exist which will read peak (or average, or whatever), but the common meters do read RMS only. If you measure

Re: [Elecraft] DMM test leads

2005-03-22 Thread Philip L Carter
Probably not a problem. However, if you plan to do surrent measurements, the outer ring of the shrouded banana plug may actually engage a shunt switch or other device so that all the current doesn't go thru the meter. It was this way on my Beckman meters. NRE/COLE Test Center OH-3

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-11 Thread K6TFZ
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:02:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just bought a VC97 autoranging DMM with a counter to 30 mhz. for 29.95 from kaitometers and they have abunch more you can drool over...John KF7OM Tried Googling kaitometers but shows nothing. Would

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-11 Thread David
: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations I just Got a B+K Precision model 2707A from Kiesub Electronic Supply for $91 and change. It isn't autoranging like the Fluke but I figure I can turn a dial. You may be able to get

[Elecraft] DMM Minimum Capacitance Measurements ?

2005-01-11 Thread Jim F.
. Subject: DMM Minimum Capacitance Measurements ? To: Elecraft List Please, What is the lowest capacitance value you can measure with the popular DMMs ? (in picoFarads ?) DMM specs do not spell out what the minimum capacitance is.. Jim - W1FMR . Best Regards, Jim AMERICA;

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Minimum Capacitance Measurements ?

2005-01-11 Thread L. D. Ingram
Jim, I imagine different DMMs have different lower ranges, but what ever the lower range is, you can measure even smaller capacitors by paralleling them with one that does fall into the lower range of your particular DMM. First measure the value of the capacitor that falls within your DMM's

RE: [Elecraft] DMM Minimum Capacitance Measurements ?

2005-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Jim, W1FMR asked: What is the lowest capacitance value you can measure with the popular DMMs ? (in picoFarads ?) DMM specs do not spell out what the minimum capacitance is.. --- My Radio Shack DMM will accurately measure capacitance as low as 2 or 3 pf. It has a

RE: [Elecraft] DMM Minimum Capacitance Measurements ?

2005-01-11 Thread Fraser Robertson
Jim, from memory typical DMM's do not have low capacitance ranges. I have a LCR type portable DMM that has more useful ranges, but is not so good for voltage and current measurements. It's lowest capacitance range is 200pF full scale so it's possible to measure C's in the pF region. Over

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Minimum Capacitance Measurements ?

2005-01-11 Thread Brian Mury
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 13:23 -0800, Jim F. wrote: What is the lowest capacitance value you can measure with the popular DMMs ? (in picoFarads ?) DMM specs do not spell out what the minimum capacitance is.. My Meterman 34XR has 4 scales - 4000, 400, 40 and 4 uF max scale, resolution is 1

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Minimum Capacitance Measurements ?

2005-01-11 Thread Bob Tellefsen
Brian You won't regret buying the LC IIB meter when you can. It is pretty much the defacto standard among QRP builders. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list.

[Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-10 Thread gehringc
I would like to see some recommendations for a Digital Multimeter. The Fluke 187 is a little out of my range but something between my Walmart $29.95 special and the Fluke would be nice. 73 KI4DGH Chuck G. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-10 Thread John
could have got it cheaper on e-bay. -- John K7SVV - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:01 PM Subject: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations I would like to see some recommendations for a Digital Multimeter. The Fluke 187

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-10 Thread R. Kevin Stover
I just Got a B+K Precision model 2707A from Kiesub Electronic Supply for $91 and change. It isn't autoranging like the Fluke but I figure I can turn a dial. You may be able to get it a little cheaper at Mouser but I ordered mine at the same time I ordered my Hakko 936. K2/100 with all the

[Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations]

2005-01-10 Thread Robert Conley
Original Message Subject:Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:00:12 -0600 From: Robert Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: R. Kevin Stover [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] R. Kevin Stover wrote: I just

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-10 Thread Jim Wiley
Chuck - A couple of months ago I picked up a Velleman DVM, Model DVM890. It is a 3 1/2 digit, manual range instrument. It does all the usual functions (Ohms, DC Volts, AC Volts), plus capacitance, temperature (it comes with a probe), transistor Hfe, diode checking, AC and DC amperes (to 20

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-10 Thread Stuart Rohre
Check your local Home Depot or Lowe's home centers and hardware stores. They have had good buys on brand name 3 1/2 digit meters of late. Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the

RE: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Chuck, KI4DGH, wrote: I would like to see some recommendations for a Digital Multimeter. The Fluke 187 is a little out of my range but something between my Walmart $29.95 special and the Fluke would be nice. -- I have cheap meters and expensive meters. On the

Re: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations

2005-01-10 Thread John Gabbard
, 2005 1:22 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] DMM Recommendations Chuck, KI4DGH, wrote: I would like to see some recommendations for a Digital Multimeter. The Fluke 187 is a little out of my range but something between my Walmart $29.95 special and the Fluke would be nice