Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-06 Thread David Yarnes
To: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Hector: According to several currency calculators: 2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD Whew. 73, Tom N0SS At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-06 Thread Matt Palmer
higher cost than we pay here in the U.S. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com To: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Hector: According

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-05 Thread Maarten van Rossum
To me the argument that we have to buy our Japanese rigs from an importer too, isn't a very good one. Everyone in the world has to buy there Japanese rigs from a importer so everybody has to pay more. But with Elecraft equipment, only the Japanese have buy there stuff from a importer whilst the

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-05 Thread Hector Padron
For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-05 Thread Tom Hammond
: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-05 Thread Matt Palmer
Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese [END of thread]

2010-01-05 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Guys - Lets end this thread for now. This is something we are acutely aware of and are constantly working on. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft list moderator. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-05 Thread Ken Chandler
--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com wrote: From: Fumiaki Okushi fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:25 PM From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-05 Thread Hector Padron
and pay all the transportation expenses I guess.   AD4C   For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3 --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Tom Hammond n...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com, elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese [Ended]

2010-01-05 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Hector - Its nowhere near this high. Someone added incorrectly. Again - Let's please end this thread. Anyone with questions on this, please feel free to email me. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Hector Padron wrote: WOW !! You are telling me that a ham in japan who will like to purchase a fully

[Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Tom Meier
Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is getting a very bad name in that country - not for their product, but because of a business decision to have everything go through an exclusive dealer for both sales and service. The problem (according to this operator) is that the

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Ian Maude
No Tech support? When did this happen? :) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455 http://www.amateurradiotraining.org 2010/1/4 Tom Meier tomk...@gmail.com Was talking with a JA operator yesterday who said that Elecraft is

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor, but that is a different statement. 73, Don W3FPR Tom Meier wrote: Was talking with a JA

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Fumiaki Okushi
Hi everyone, this is my first post. I also had a Japanese ham (in Japan) tell me the same story. I found on the order page on the Elecraft site the following line: Note: All Japan orders (except expatriate orders) must be placed through our distributor: EDC This sounds to me like if you're

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Duncan Carter
Unless the situation has changed in Japan, it's customary or perhaps required to use a import/export company/agent for sales in Japan. Some countries make it extremely difficult for individuals to import or export. Although my company doesn't do any business in Japan, we do business in other

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Wes Stewart
Sounds like Tokyo Hy-Power in reverse.  I now get to pay dealer markup and sales tax so my L4-B will stay in service. --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Tom Meier tomk...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tom Meier tomk...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Fumiaki Okushi
From: Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:59:57 -0700 Unless the situation has changed in Japan, it's customary or perhaps required to use a import/export company/agent for sales in Japan. Some countries make it extremely

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Dick Williams
Meier Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may not have access to tech support from the Japanese distributor

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Hector Padron
] Disgrunteled Japanese To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 5:45 PM Hi everyone, this is my first post. I also had a Japanese ham (in Japan) tell me the same story. I found on the order page on the Elecraft site the following line: Note:  All Japan orders (except expatriate

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Duncan Carter
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: Tom Meier Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Bob
That is just the same as those here in the states buying or importing a gray market camera or other piece of electronics that the US dealers or distributors will not support. Should I be mad at Canon or Nikon?I don't think so.So the JA's don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread K9ZTV
A couple of thoughts: 1) Distributor jacking up the price . . . Heathkit did the same thing forty years ago. You had your choice of buying direct from the factory at one price (lower), or with the convenience of buying from a local (more or less) distributor at another price (higher). There

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Fumiaki Okushi
, bands could be different from one country to another (and certainly the case between US and JA), so there's another reason you might want to deal locally. Regards, Fumi Okushi/KB2KVV From: Duncan Carter d...@vibrotek.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:51

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Fumiaki Okushi
From: Bob k...@att.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:51:51 -0500 Should I be mad at Canon or Nikon?I don't think so.So the JA's don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot. Have you actually done price comparison? Yaesu, Kenwood, ICOM

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Fumiaki Okushi
From: Hector Padron ad4c2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) WOW ! Hard to believe,then I imagine a fully loaded K3 will be then over 5 grands in japan with that dealer EDC? You can find the price list for K3 (and accessories

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread The Smiths
Jan 2010 13:09:32 -0800 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net From: fumi...@okushi.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese I would personally prefer to buy from a local distributor, for the exact reason you mention. So I'm willing to pay a little extra for that convenience. The question

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Bill W4ZV
Fumiaki Okushi wrote: Have you actually done price comparison? Yaesu, Kenwood, ICOM products are only slightly more expensive in the US market. With respect to Canon and Nikon (and I believe you are referring to DSLR), they are usually cheaper in the US market (because of fierce

Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese

2010-01-04 Thread Philippe Trottet
] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:49 AM To: Tom Meier Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Disgrunteled Japanese Tom, If he buys direct from Elecraft, he will have Tech Support direct from Elecraft, so I would guess he does not know his facts. He may