Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-23 Thread Jon K Hellan
On 11/23/2011 12:03 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On 11/22/2011 2:31 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: move to Win-Test (which has an interface identical to CT) Ah -- so THAT'S why the dinosaurs who don't want to learn anything new love it! I've never seen CT. I love Win-Test. Jon LA4RT 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Maybe I am missing something but won't A/B preamp/att on/off A/B work? This should have no side effects at all. I don't have the subreceiver but often use split and I do any changes to the B side this way. BSET is another button I never use. AB2TC - Knut Bill K9YEQ wrote Wayne, I

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Tom W8JI
Maybe I am missing something but won't A/B preamp/att on/off A/B work? This should have no side effects at all. I don't have the subreceiver but often use split and I do any changes to the B side this way. BSET is another button I never use. Because: 1.) the operator is busy making two

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Phil Hystad
So, what the K3 really needs then is a contest oriented application on a computer. Maybe something rich like PowerSDR but works with the K3 in a manner where contesting features (logging and contest log management) along with sophisticated macro control from a visual controls perspective.

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread David Gilbert
There are very few things important during a contest that N1MM does not already do, and the ones that it does not do would be very clumsy on a screen even if the K3 allowed it. And I own an iPad, but I cannot think of a less efficient interface for doing a serious contest. Dave AB7E On

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/20/2011 4:48 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: Is there a way to lock the preamp and attenuator functions I've missed much of the traffic in this thread, BUT -- I have integrated Beverages into my contest station using one of the excellent preamps that I believe you designed for DX Engineering. The

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Tom W8JI
I've missed much of the traffic in this thread, BUT -- I have integrated Beverages into my contest station using one of the excellent preamps that I believe you designed for DX Engineering. The result is that the signal level from my Beverages is usually a good match for the level from my

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread ab2tc
But that sequence must have serial command equivalents which could then be supported by logging programs or made into a button macro. Making a macro that turns on or off both preamps or both attenuators also ought to be easy. The important thing is that it is a specific series of commands or

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/22/2011 10:06 AM, ab2tc wrote: But that sequence must have serial command equivalents which could then be supported by logging programs or made into a button macro. Making a macro that turns on or off both preamps or both attenuators also ought to be easy. The important thing is that it

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Tom W8JI
This might lead to a solution, Knut. The first question is, are there commands in firmware to do what Tom needs? Tom doesn't really need anything. Guest operators are the real worry. Things have to be easy. :-) __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread ab2tc
I'll study the command reference manual when I get home and see if the needed commands are there. AB2TC - Knut Jim Brown-10 wrote snip This might lead to a solution, Knut. The first question is, are there commands in firmware to do what Tom needs? I'm pretty N1MM will send a command

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The first question is, are there commands in firmware to do what Tom needs? Yes, Preamp Off: PA0;PA$0; Preamp On: PA1;PA$1; Attenuator Off: RA00;RA$00; Attenuator On: RA01;RA$01; It's quite simple if one reads the K3 Programmer's Reference instead of

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/22/2011 12:01 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Yes, Preamp Off: PA0;PA$0; Preamp On: PA1;PA$1; Attenuator Off: RA00;RA$00; Attenuator On: RA01;RA$01; Is there a way to do this for both receivers? It's quite simple if one reads the K3 Programmer's Reference

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Wayne Burdick wrote: I use B SET to adjust preamp and other settings when using diversity. And using B SET is about the most cumbersome operation imaginable to simply check (or set) subrx preamp. Macros? With great respect, macros are not the answer to every usability problem. Macros are

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Yes, Preamp Off: PA0;PA$0; Preamp On: PA1;PA$1; Attenuator Off: RA00;RA$00; Attenuator On: RA01;RA$01; Is there a way to do this for both receivers? Yes, this does it for both receivers ... for example PA0; does the main receiver and PA$0l does the

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Bruce Beford
Yes, Preamp Off: PA0;PA$0; Preamp On: PA1;PA$1; Attenuator Off: RA00;RA$00; Attenuator On: RA01;RA$01; Is there a way to do this for both receivers? Yes- the commands with the dollar signs ($) target the subrx. -Bruce, N1RX

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread ab2tc
Hi again, I did get the latest programmer's reference and see to my surprise that it is more than a year old and I don't see any sign of an errata addendum. As I know for sure that there are more recent additions (such as the fine resolution S-meter request) how do I find the latest information?

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Tom W8JI
I know that but it takes less time to read the programmers guide and write the macros in AutoHotkey (add CATASC for N1MM to send the information in the CAT stream) than has been wasted on this topic in the last two days. Fine. Some people who use N1MM will get used to that. Now tell me how

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Now tell me how to get it to work for the people who insist on using CT and want to operate. Give up on the dinosaur dung, move to Win-Test (which has an interface identical to CT) and make use of the LUA scripting capability to do the same thing there. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 11/22/2011

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Tom W8JI
: Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp Now tell me how to get it to work for the people who insist on using CT and want to operate. Give up on the dinosaur dung, move to Win-Test (which has an interface identical to CT) and make use of the LUA scripting capability to do the same thing

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/22/2011 2:31 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: move to Win-Test (which has an interface identical to CT) Ah -- so THAT'S why the dinosaurs who don't want to learn anything new love it! 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Dick Dievendorff
, 2011 2:24 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp Hi again, I did get the latest programmer's reference and see to my surprise that it is more than a year old and I don't see any sign of an errata addendum. As I know for sure that there are more recent

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread KQ8M
Ok, I know this is a dumb question but I hope someone can help me or point me in the right direction. With my K3 and also my IC746PRO before that they both have the Noise Reduction function. Whenever I use it, all I hear is a watery version of what I hear without it. Are my ears just that bad or

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/22/2011 3:22 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: Generally new K3 commands are described in the firmware release notes between revisions of the programmer's reference document. That's a real PITA for users, and completely un-necessary when it is SO easy to simply update the Programmer's

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Bill W4ZV
W8JI wrote Is there a way to lock the preamp and attenuator functions in the diversity mode so I only have to hit the preamp to kill both RX preamps or add attenuation to both channels without hitting the B set? Double tap AB sends all A settings to B but that may not be what you want.

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Tom W8JI
Double tap AB sends all A settings to B but that may not be what you want. Not. That writes A to B. You could also set up MACROs for ATT and PRE which would do what you want I have them used up for filter/BW selections. I'm trying to get the radios set up for the 160 contests, and some of

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Bill W4ZV
W8JI wrote Double tap AB sends all A settings to B but that may not be what you want. Not. That writes A to B. Single Tap AB writes frequency only to B...Double Tap AB writes everything including PRE/ATT settings. Regarding ganging ATT/PRE in Diversity, I like it the way it is. I

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Tom W8JI
Single Tap AB writes frequency only to B...Double Tap AB writes everything including PRE/ATT settings. Exactly, which is a real operating mess when someone only wants to turn the preamp on or off. This is unsutable for contest work, and barely useful for normal split operation. I can't

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread n5ge
If you need a macro, but have run out of macro storage, you might consider developing a small piece of software that does the switching for you with a keystroke on the keyboard or a mouse click. I don't care much for macros (not that they don't serve a good purpose), so I wrote a program to

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Bill W4ZV
N5GE wrote If you need a macro, but have run out of macro storage, you might consider developing a small piece of software that does the switching for you with a keystroke on the keyboard or a mouse click. http://www.autohotkey.com/ 73, Bill -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Tom W8JI
If you need a macro, but have run out of macro storage, you might consider developing a small piece of software that does the switching for you with a keystroke on the keyboard or a mouse click. http://www.autohotkey.com/ 73, Bill For contest use, with a variety of ops who are already

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Tom W8JI wrote: I guess I can build external attenuators/preamps, but I would rather use the internal. That's funny - those same words are exactly my reason for wanting to keep the preamp/attenuator settings independent, and having them *not* track. As we so often see, there are valid

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Tom W8JI
I guess I can build external attenuators/preamps, but I would rather use the internal. That's funny - those same words are exactly my reason for wanting to keep the preamp/attenuator settings independent, and having them *not* track. As we so often see, there are valid reasons why different

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Bill K9YEQ
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom W8JI Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:00 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp Single Tap AB writes frequency only to B...Double Tap AB writes everything

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Barry N1EU
Bill K9YEQ wrote I use B SET to adjust preamp and other settings when using diversity. And using B SET is about the most cumbersome operation imaginable to simply check (or set) subrx preamp. Barry N1EU -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Tom W8JI
And using B SET is about the most cumbersome operation imaginable to simply check (or set) subrx preamp. Right. It is all too cumbersome for a contest change, although the push and hold A/B for B set at least does not rewrite the VFO. The problem is contest use, and complicated by guest

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Bill K9YEQ
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom W8JI Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:05 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp And using B SET is about the most cumbersome operation imaginable to simply

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Macros? Wayne N6KR On Nov 21, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Barry N1EU wrote: Bill K9YEQ wrote I use B SET to adjust preamp and other settings when using diversity. And using B SET is about the most cumbersome operation imaginable to simply check (or set) subrx preamp. Barry N1EU -- View

Re: [Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-21 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Wayne, I would think that could work for those who need them... there are bunch already written and shared in the reflector that may address this. This may not apply to this thread... I don't know that all users have the time or are PC literate enough even when it comes to doing macros. That

[Elecraft] Diversity mode preamp

2011-11-20 Thread Tom W8JI
Is there a way to lock the preamp and attenuator functions in the diversity mode so I only have to hit the preamp to kill both RX preamps or add attenuation to both channels without hitting the B set? Thanks! __ Elecraft mailing