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>   1. OT: need a 250 gig IDE HD? (Jim Sheldon)
>   2. Re: Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches
>      (Bill Frantz)
>   3. OT:  250 gig Hard Drive (Jim Sheldon)
>   4. Re: Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches
>      (Craig Smith)
>   5. Re: Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches
>      (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>   6. Re: Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches
>      (Kenneth Christiansen)
>   7. Re: Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches
>      (Phil Kane)
>   8. Re: FW: Lutron dimmers (Fred Townsend)
>   9. DCHF-200 Directional Coupler Documentation (JWAHAR BAMMI)
>  10. K3S DIGOUT1 question (Jim Miller)
>  11. Re: K3S DIGOUT1 question (Don Wilhelm)
>  12. P3 Save SVGA state via USB (Ken Widelitz)
>  13. P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working (Ken Widelitz)
>  14. Re: K3S DIGOUT1 question (RIchard Williams)
>  15. Re: K3S DIGOUT1 question (Jim Miller)
>  16. Re: Faint clicking sound in headphones (Bob McGraw K4TAX)
>  17. P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution (Ken Widelitz)
>  18. For Sale: K3 roofing filters (Erik Basilier)
>  19. Re: P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working (Dave Cole)
>  20. Re: K3S DIGOUT1 question (Vic Rosenthal)
>  21. Re: K3S DIGOUT1 question (RIchard Williams)
>  22. Re: P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution (Paul Saffren N6HZ)
>  23. Re: P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working
>      (Paul Saffren N6HZ)
>  24. Re: P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution (Ken Widelitz)
>  25. Using the internal K144xv to feed other transverters. (Dave Glenn)
>  26. For Sale: K3 Filters (Joe Word)
>  27. Re: P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution (Paul Saffren)
>  28. K3-S - CW Keying for Contests (a45wg)
>  29. Digital Input Pin? (David Kuechenmeister)
>  30. Re: K3-S - CW Keying for Contests (Rick Tavan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 13:46:09 -0600
> From: Jim Sheldon <w...@cox.net>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: need a 250 gig IDE HD?
> Message-ID: <86b5624e-5e1f-445e-9f92-e893e21bb...@cox.net>
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> Anybody need a 250 gigabyte IDE (not ATA) hard drive?  I have an essentially 
> new Western Digital WD2500JB "Caviar", IDE, 3.5" hard drive.  This has never 
> been installed or partitioned.
> 
> It was sent to me by mistake and I was told to keep it when they replaced it 
> with an eSATA drive of the same size.
> 
> $25 gets it shipped to you anywhere in the U.S.
> 
> Contact me off the reflector if you want it.  First "I'll take it" (by 
> date/time on the email) gets right of first refusal.  
> 
> Jim, W0EB
> w...@cox.net
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:22:31 -0800
> From: Bill Frantz <fra...@pwpconsult.com>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer
>    Switches
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> FWIW, we have an old Lift Master 1/2 Horsepower garage door 
> opener. It's manual said not to use CFLs (it is too old to know 
> about LEDs). I tried CFLs anyway. They lasted less than 2 weeks 
> before they died.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:30:25 -0600
> From: Jim Sheldon <w...@cox.net>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT:  250 gig Hard Drive
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> The hard drive has been sold.
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 13:48:17 -0700
> From: Craig Smith <cr...@powersmith.net>
> To: Bill Frantz <fra...@pwpconsult.com>
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer
>    Switches
> Message-ID: <2fc07c53-0bcc-4dfe-92f0-c4123357e...@powersmith.net>
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> Thanks, Bill.    I have the newer DC motor with Battery Backup Liftmaster, 
> but I?m guessing the receivers might be similar.   Interestingly, in the new 
> manual they actually recommend CFLs but warn against LED.  Obviously the 
> front end of their receiver is not designed to Elecraft standards   ;>)
> 
> 73  Craig   AC0DS
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:59:40 -0600
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer
>    Switches
> Message-ID: <56a7de3c.6070...@blomand.net>
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> If you choose to use incandescent lamps in the garage door opener, 
> choose the "heavy duty vibration resistant" bulbs.   These can also be 
> found labeled as "ceiling fan" bulbs.  Seems that they have 3 or 4 wires 
> supporting the filament as opposed to only two wires for the standard bulb.
> 
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
>> On 1/26/2016 2:48 PM, Craig Smith wrote:
>> Thanks, Bill.    I have the newer DC motor with Battery Backup Liftmaster, 
>> but I?m guessing the receivers might be similar.   Interestingly, in the new 
>> manual they actually recommend CFLs but warn against LED.  Obviously the 
>> front end of their receiver is not designed to Elecraft standards   ;>)
>> 
>> 73  Craig   AC0DS
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:09:22 -0600
> From: Kenneth Christiansen <w...@i29.net>
> To: Craig Smith <cr...@powersmith.net>
> Cc: John Pitz <crustac...@brig-elec.com>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer
>    Switches
> Message-ID: <c8f30da8-354b-429e-8669-50b1c2892...@i29.net>
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> Hi to the group
> I have a 40 year old Sears chain drive door opener with two Cree led bulbs. 
> They have been there for over 2 years with no problem using the remote. Every 
> bulb in my house except the oven and refrigerator has been replaced by Cree 
> led bulbs. I have run my K3 and P3 on each antenna on battery power with main 
> AC off than turned everything on in order and no change in noise level. I 
> consider myself lucky.
> Ken W0CZ w0cz at i29 dot net
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Craig Smith <cr...@powersmith.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the garage door opener experience.   I had my door and opener 
>> replaced a few months ago.   The manual for the opener (Lift Master) 
>> specifically says not to use LED bulbs.   I was scratching my head over that 
>> but did use CFLs in the opener.  I asked the installer why that 
>> recommendation was there, and he said he didn?t know why LEDs couldn?t be 
>> used.   But, as your experience shows, it appears that it can indeed be a 
>> problem.   Probably the close proximity of the opener receiver to the poorly 
>> filtered (for some bulbs) switch-mode converters in the bulbs.
>> 
>> 73  Craig   AC0DS
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 13:30:04 -0800
> From: Phil Kane <k2...@kanafi.org>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer
>    Switches
> Message-ID: <56a7e55c.2060...@kanafi.org>
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>> On 1/26/2016 12:59 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> 
>> If you choose to use incandescent lamps in the garage door opener,
>> choose the "heavy duty vibration resistant" bulbs.   These can also be
>> found labeled as "ceiling fan" bulbs.  Seems that they have 3 or 4 wires
>> supporting the filament as opposed to only two wires for the standard bulb.
> 
> They are also called "Rough Service" bulbs.  For years I thought that
> that was "rough surface" from the bulb's coating.  No RFI from them AFAICT.
> 
> At home I use  a remote-controlled light dimmer for a table lamp.  It's
> a double threat - the remote Part 15 and the dimmer electronics.  After
> ruining one with an LED I RTFM that said "incandescent only".  I then
> found a similar dimmer at a specialty lighting store that was certified
> for LEDs.  It was also necessary to get a dimmable LED - not all are.  I
> tried it out at the store to make sure that it would work together.
> 
> The upshot is that I cannot detect any RFI even though the lamp is in
> the next room.  Of course, with the high HF noise level here, it may
> just be masked.
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
>> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:29:41 -0800
> From: "Fred Townsend" <fptowns...@earthlink.net>
> To: "'Jerry'" <je...@molaver.org>,    <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FW: Lutron dimmers
> Message-ID: <003d01d15889$0cd90c90$268b25b0$@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> The link below is wrong. It should be:
> http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Service-Support/Pages/Technical/Design-Selection
> Tools/LEDDimmerMatrix.aspx
> 
> 73
> Fred, AE6QL
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:06 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] FW: Lutron dimmers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> GA Jim,
> 
> I am in search of replacing over 100 dimmers in our house due to an
> excavating incident where the neutral was pulled out. I have had direct
> contact with Lutron's tech service where I expressed my concern for both rfi
> caused by the dimmers and interference to the dimmers caused by my station.
> 
> Fwiw here is the reply (the images didn't copy but were just sine wave
> representations of operation)  - I went with one of their recommendations
> 
> 73
> 
> Jerry, k1tgx
> 
> Good afternoon Jerry,
> 
> When dimming you can experience interference with sensitive audio equipment
> depending upon the type of dimmer and type of bulb you are controlling. The
> way a dimmer dims is by turning the lights on and off 120 times a second.
> Based upon the on time of the signal you will either get brighter or dimmer
> light. Less on time = dimmer light because the lights are not running as
> long each cycle.
> 
> Any forward phase dimming control, could result in a feedback into audio
> equipment due to the way that dimming signal works. The way a dimmer dims is
> by turning the lights on and off 120 times a second. Based upon the on time
> of the signal you will either get brighter or dimmer light. Less on time =
> dimmer light because the lights are not running as long each cycle.
> 
> During this rapid cycling with a forward phase control, there is a spike
> present before the dimmer turns on each time; we call this repetitive peak
> (see illustration #1). When controlling incandescent or halogen bulbs you
> normally will never experience misbehaviors because these bulbs are
> resistive in nature and act like a filter for the line, suppressing the
> repetitive peak. On the other hand, LEDs are capacitive and can greatly
> increase this repetitive peak, resulting in misbehaviors, buzzing or
> interference. However, since reverse phase or ELV controls dimming signals
> are completely opposite than forward phase signals the buzzing is greatly
> reduced if not completely eliminated (see illustration #2). There are two
> things to be aware of with ELV controls, 1) these types of controls require
> a neutral connection to be present at the location of installation (bundle
> of white wires connected together). 2) These controls are normally 2 to 3
> times to cost of standard incandescent  or LED dimmers.
> 
> Illustration #1
> 
> 
> 
> Illustration #2
> 
> 
> You can view our LED selection tool at
> www.lutron.com/ledtool<http://www.lutron.com/ledtool>. This LED selection
> tool will allow you to generate a list of compatible LED products for all of
> our LED rated dimming controls. You will all be able to access a testing
> report for each of the LEDs listed here. The report will provide you with a
> list of all the dimmers we can recommend for that LED, the amount of LEDs
> each dimmer can control and the dimming range you will experience.
> 
> If looking for ELV solutions on our LED selection tool, select "reverse
> phase" from the control technology menu. Also, here is a list of ELV
> controls that we can recommend for use with LED products.
> 
> *             MRF2-6ELV-120
> *             RRD-6NA
> *             HQRD-6NA
> *             PHPM-WBX-DV-WH
> *             PHPM-PA-DV-WH
> *             LP-RPM-4A-120
> *             HW-RPM-4A-120
> 
> Please let me know if you have any questions
> 
> Sincerely,
> Matt Rehrig
> Lutron Support
> Lutron Electronics, Inc.
> www.lutron.com<http://www.lutron.com>
> MR
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:50:14 -0800
> From: JWAHAR BAMMI <jba...@mac.com>
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] DCHF-200 Directional Coupler Documentation
> Message-ID: <c8d1bb03-1465-4a30-b5dc-88df274f8...@mac.com>
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> I cannot seem to find any documentation on the DCHF-200 Directional Coupler 
> on the elecraft site. Looking for the pinout on the RJ-xx connector, and also 
> looking for the specs on the coupler performance (mainline loss, coupling, 
> return loss etc vs frequency)  Any pointers much appreciated.
> 
> 73 de kc1ccr
> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:22:43 -0500
> From: Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
> Message-ID:
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> 
> According to the K3S user manual DIGOUT1 is per band and per antenna.
> 
> Does this mean that I could assert DIGOUT1 on the basis of 160m and the
> activation of the RX antenna?
> 
> 73
> jim ab3cv
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:13:18 -0500
> From: Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com>
> To: Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com>,    Elecraft Reflector
>    <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
> Message-ID: <56a819ae.2040...@embarqmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Jim,
> 
> I don't know about the RX ant (it may be confined to ANT1/ANT2), but 
> give it a try and let us all know the results.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 1/26/2016 7:22 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>> According to the K3S user manual DIGOUT1 is per band and per antenna.
>> 
>> Does this mean that I could assert DIGOUT1 on the basis of 160m and the
>> activation of the RX antenna?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:18:16 -0800
> From: "Ken Widelitz" <widel...@gte.net>
> To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Save SVGA state via USB
> Message-ID: <000001d158a0$9a43c7c0$cecb5740$@gte.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I have entered a number of macros and got them working with the Genovation
> keyboard per Dave, NK7Z's tutorial. I want to move them to my 2nd P3. I've
> used two USB thumb drives. I select the SVGA Usav, press the select know,
> the screen shows saving to USB drive, but no file appears on the drive. I
> also have a USB switch to move the Genovation keyboard to the 2nd P3. That
> appears not to work either. Connecting the Genovation directly to the USB
> port does work. I see in the manual a note that with regard to USB drives,
> "some will not work."
> 
> 
> 
> One peculiar result of unplugging the USB drive is the SVGA display becomes
> upside down. That is, the "grass" comes from the top of the screen down and
> the waterfall is almost solid. Cycling the power fixes that problem.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone discovered a particular brand of USB thumb drive that does work?
> Any thoughts on why the USB switch doesn't work?
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 18:02:10 -0800
> From: "Ken Widelitz" <widel...@gte.net>
> To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working
> Message-ID: <000701d158a6$bc1cbb30$34563190$@gte.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I have no idea why it didn't work before, but the SVGASET.SAV file was saved
> to the USB Thumb Drive about the 10th time I tried. It restored to my other
> P3 perfectly and now the USB switch is working also. Maybe I didn't have the
> cables plugged in all the way, although the P3 recognized the USB devices
> before and the USB switch LED indicators came on before. In any event, I am
> a happy camper and will be even happier when P3 commands can be used with
> the next firmware release.
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 02:38:19 +0000 (UTC)
> From: RIchard Williams <richarddw1...@yahoo.com>
> To: Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com>,    Elecraft Reflector
>    <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
> Message-ID:
>    <1858354690.601364.1453862299858.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> You are correct in saying you can assert Digout1 on 160M. ?That said, I am 
> not sure what you are trying to accomplish by tying it to enabling the RX 
> antenna? ?You can accomplish the same thing by having 160M selected as the 
> band, and then tapping the RX ANT button. ? That selection is remembered by 
> the K3 (or K3S), and every time you select 160M, the radio will automatically 
> select the RX ANT (which is exactly what I do here).
> FYI, you can do the same thing for the 6, 10, and 12M preamp; ?select each 
> band, turn on the preamp (flashing PRE on the display), and from then on, 
> when you select those bands, the pre amp will turn on automatically,
> Dick, K8ZTT
> 
> 
>      From: Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:22 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
> 
> According to the K3S user manual DIGOUT1 is per band and per antenna.
> 
> Does this mean that I could assert DIGOUT1 on the basis of 160m and the
> activation of the RX antenna?
> 
> 73
> jim ab3cv
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:00:46 -0500
> From: Jim Miller <jtmille...@gmail.com>
> To: RIchard Williams <richarddw1...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com>,    Elecraft Reflector
>    <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
> Message-ID: <4b8c30d0-1fbb-4ae8-9808-a8b459da7...@gmail.com>
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> 
> I want an external signal that is only activated when 160 and RX Ant is 
> selected. That will be part of logic that detunes my TX antenna on when 
> receiving so as not to ruin my RX antenna pattern. 
> 
> Jim ab3cv
> 
> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:38 PM, RIchard Williams <richarddw1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> You are correct in saying you can assert Digout1 on 160M.  That said, I am 
> not sure what you are trying to accomplish by tying it to enabling the RX 
> antenna?  You can accomplish the same thing by having 160M selected as the 
> band, and then tapping the RX ANT button.   That selection is remembered by 
> the K3 (or K3S), and every time you select 160M, the radio will automatically 
> select the RX ANT (which is exactly what I do here).
> 
> FYI, you can do the same thing for the 6, 10, and 12M preamp;  select each 
> band, turn on the preamp (flashing PRE on the display), and from then on, 
> when you select those bands, the pre amp will turn on automatically,
> 
> Dick, K8ZTT
> 
> 
> 
> From: Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:22 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
> 
> According to the K3S user manual DIGOUT1 is per band and per antenna.
> 
> Does this mean that I could assert DIGOUT1 on the basis of 160m and the
> activation of the RX antenna?
> 
> 73
> jim ab3cv
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 21:04:36 -0600
> From: Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Faint clicking sound in headphones
> Message-ID: <56a833c4.6080...@blomand.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> I hear something which is very slight in QSK mode but not in SEMI mode.  
> My observation is that it is "very" slight.  Headphones with higher 
> sensitivity may be more prone to exacerbate the the click. I speculate 
> it is the leading edge AGC recovery in between CW elements.  Being on a 
> dummy load, there would be no AGC transition to noise as would appear 
> with noise from the antenna.
> 
> If you think it is RF related, turn the PWR down to 1 watt or operate in 
> TEST mode.  I suspect however it is switching related and not RF related.
> 
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
>> On 1/25/2016 9:44 AM, Mike Weir wrote:
>> Just today I notice a  faint clicking noise when using my headphones and 
>> only when the AF is turned up not when all the way down, here is my 
>> setup.....Elecraft k3, Begali key into a Winkeyer USB and the menu key 
>> weight setting in the K3 is 1.10
>> Here is what I have tried to fix the issue with no success:
>> 1. Tried different headphones.
>> 2. Snap on chokes on headphone cord.
>> 3. Removed Winkeyer and plugged key into rear of K3.
>> 4. Tried a different key plugged it into Winkeyer and just to rear of K3.
>> 5. Tried on Dummy load and clicking is gone.
>> 6. Check all connections to make sure they are tight.
>> 7. Tried my KX3 using same key and antenna and no clicks.
>> 8. The clicking is happening on all bands.
>> I believe that is all I tried and I am at a loss as to what it could be, I'm 
>> hopping it's something simple that I have overlooked.
>> Thanks in advance for your help
>> Mike
>> VE3WDM
>> 
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:16:18 -0800
> From: "Ken Widelitz" <widel...@gte.net>
> To: <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution
> Message-ID: <001801d158b9$78f214a0$6ad63de0$@gte.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> It seems that if you toggle a USB device on the P3, it loses its knowledge
> of the USB device and doesn't recognize the device when it is toggled back
> UNLESS the SVGA is in data display mode. IMHO this is a firmware bug.
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:00:13 -0700
> From: "Erik Basilier" <ebasil...@cox.net>
> To: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K3 roofing filters
> Message-ID: <034401d158c7$fd2f5990$f78e0cb0$@cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> After reconfiguring my K3 I have the following roofing filters for sale:
> 
> 
> 
> 6 kHz     $90         one available
> 
> 1.8 kHz $90         two available
> 
> 500 Hz  $60         one available      offset -0.75
> 
> 
> 
> Shipping is additional, and would be by Priority Mail Small Box where
> applicable (typically $6.80 in the U.S. if $50 insurance is considered
> sufficient)
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Erik K7TV
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:37:23 -0800
> From: Dave Cole <d...@nk7z.net>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working
> Message-ID: <1453876643.3301.8.ca...@nk7z.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> I too am looking forward to the next release of P3 software, and hoping
> it contains the changes which allow P3 macros to be sent to the P3, via
> the P3 USB port.
> -- 
> 73's, and thanks,
> Dave
> 
> For software/hardware reviews see:
> http://www.nk7z.net
> 
> For MixW support see:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> 
> For SSTV help see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 18:02 -0800, Ken Widelitz wrote:
>> I have no idea why it didn't work before, but the SVGASET.SAV file
>> was saved
>> to the USB Thumb Drive about the 10th time I tried. It restored to my
>> other
>> P3 perfectly and now the USB switch is working also. Maybe I didn't
>> have the
>> cables plugged in all the way, although the P3 recognized the USB
>> devices
>> before and the USB switch LED indicators came on before. In any
>> event, I am
>> a happy camper and will be even happier when P3 commands can be used
>> with
>> the next firmware release.
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> ?
>> 
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 10:03:43 +0200
> From: Vic Rosenthal <k2vco....@gmail.com>
> To: Jim Miller <jtmille...@gmail.com>
> Cc: RIchard Williams <richarddw1...@yahoo.com>,    Elecraft Reflector
>    <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
> Message-ID: <db518473-b3b2-46ce-a0c3-9a459f3b2...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> DIGOUT1 isn't affected by RX ANT, or at least it wasn't when I used it to 
> control an external amp some time ago. But a voltmeter will tell you for sure.
> 
> Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO
> 
>> On 27 Jan 2016, at 5:00 AM, Jim Miller <jtmille...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I want an external signal that is only activated when 160 and RX Ant is 
>> selected. That will be part of logic that detunes my TX antenna on when 
>> receiving so as not to ruin my RX antenna pattern. 
>> 
>> Jim ab3cv
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:38 PM, RIchard Williams <richarddw1...@yahoo.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You are correct in saying you can assert Digout1 on 160M.  That said, I am 
>> not sure what you are trying to accomplish by tying it to enabling the RX 
>> antenna?  You can accomplish the same thing by having 160M selected as the 
>> band, and then tapping the RX ANT button.   That selection is remembered by 
>> the K3 (or K3S), and every time you select 160M, the radio will 
>> automatically select the RX ANT (which is exactly what I do here).
>> 
>> FYI, you can do the same thing for the 6, 10, and 12M preamp;  select each 
>> band, turn on the preamp (flashing PRE on the display), and from then on, 
>> when you select those bands, the pre amp will turn on automatically,
>> 
>> Dick, K8ZTT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:22 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
>> 
>> According to the K3S user manual DIGOUT1 is per band and per antenna.
>> 
>> Does this mean that I could assert DIGOUT1 on the basis of 160m and the
>> activation of the RX antenna?
>> 
>> 73
>> jim ab3cv
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> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 17:23:31 +0000 (UTC)
> From: RIchard Williams <richarddw1...@yahoo.com>
> To: Jim Miller <jtmille...@gmail.com>,    "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"
>    <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
> Message-ID:
>    <1052025222.915205.1453915411120.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Jim,
> I would think you could create a macro to accomplish this. ?The commands 
> would be SWT25;BN00; ?this would turn on the RX ANT, change the band to 160M. 
> ? You could add additional commands to the string to set more options (like 
> Split up 2 or 5 or whatever floats your boat.
> The one thing to remember is the SWT25 command toggles the RX ANT on or off; 
> unlike some other commands (like BN00), it does not "set" the position (if 
> you to send the SWT25;BN00; Macro a second time, the band (160M) would stay 
> the same, but the RX ANT would now turn off.
> Additionally, when you send a band change command (like BN00, BN01, BN02, 
> etc.), you need a 300 ms delay before sending another command in the string. 
> ?Other than inserting one or two semicolons after the BNxx command, before 
> additional commands, the easiest approach might be to put the BNxx; command 
> last in the string.
> Dick, K8ZTT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 27 Jan 2016, at 5:00 AM, Jim Miller <jtmille...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I want an external signal that is only activated when 160 and RX Ant is 
>> selected. That will be part of logic that detunes my TX antenna on when 
>> receiving so as not to ruin my RX antenna pattern. 
>> 
>> Jim ab3cv
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:38 PM, RIchard Williams <richarddw1...@yahoo.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You are correct in saying you can assert Digout1 on 160M.? That said, I am 
>> not sure what you are trying to accomplish by tying it to enabling the RX 
>> antenna?? You can accomplish the same thing by having 160M selected as the 
>> band, and then tapping the RX ANT button.? That selection is remembered by 
>> the K3 (or K3S), and every time you select 160M, the radio will 
>> automatically select the RX ANT (which is exactly what I do here).
>> 
>> FYI, you can do the same thing for the 6, 10, and 12M preamp;? select each 
>> band, turn on the preamp (flashing PRE on the display), and from then on, 
>> when you select those bands, the pre amp will turn on automatically,
>> 
>> Dick, K8ZTT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Jim Miller <j...@jtmiller.com>
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 5:22 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S DIGOUT1 question
>> 
>> According to the K3S user manual DIGOUT1 is per band and per antenna.
>> 
>> Does this mean that I could assert DIGOUT1 on the basis of 160m and the
>> activation of the RX antenna?
>> 
>> 73
>> jim ab3cv
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 10:28:01 -0700 (MST)
> From: Paul Saffren N6HZ <pa...@elecraft.com>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution
> Message-ID: <1453915681118-7613182.p...@n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi Ken, 
> 
> I don't understand what you mean by 'toggle a USB device'.  The P3/SVGA
> board will enumerate a USB keyboard or thumb drive even if the SVGA en is
> turned off (the display is turned off) OR data display mode is turned off. 
> I just checked.    You can verify that by opening up the P3 and looking on
> the SVGA card.  Whenever a USB device is correctly enumerated, the LED
> toward the connector will light solid. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> View this message in context: 
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-SVGA-USB-Serendipitous-Solution-tp7613177p7613182.html
> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 10:32:04 -0700 (MST)
> From: Paul Saffren N6HZ <pa...@elecraft.com>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA Save/Restore State via USB Working
> Message-ID: <1453915924725-7613183.p...@n2.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi Ken, 
> 
> I am not familiar with the USB switch but if it is electronic and not
> mechanical there could be an issue since the SVGA USB port is limited as to
> what it can support.  For example it does not support a hub or really
> anything except a USB thumb drive and/or keyboard.  
> 
> -Paul
> 
> 
> 
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> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 24
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:37:16 -0800
> From: "Ken Widelitz" <widel...@gte.net>
> To: "'Paul Saffren N6HZ'" <pa...@elecraft.com>,
>    <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution
> Message-ID: <002001d15929$5e4079b0$1ac16d10$@gte.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> 
> 
> My experience with the P3 SVGA is that the Genovation USB keypad will not
> work unless data mode is on. 
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:39:39 -0800
> From: "Dave Glenn" <glen...@ca.rr.com>
> To: <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Using the internal K144xv to feed other
>    transverters.
> Message-ID: <055201d15929$b34bb730$19e32590$@ca.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I have the internal 2 meter transverter.  I would like to use it to feed my
> other transverters for 2, 3, 5 and 10ghz. 
> 
> However, when setting it up in the K3 I don't see that I can drive a
> transverter from a transverter. 
> 
> Has anyone tried this before?  The XV RF setting only goes up to 50mhz and I
> don't see how I could feed one from another. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dave N6TEB
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 26
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:40:16 -0500
> From: Joe Word <n9vx....@gmail.com>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] For Sale: K3 Filters
> Message-ID:
>    <CAEk6-=uaajfffpxq-gqtsjysd_f414c+-m+njdj3xngna6_...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> K3 filters for sale:
> 
> KFLA3A-6K  $105 shipped.
> 
> KBPF3A  General coverage  $140 shipped.
> 
> Shipped to CONUS only, payment by money order, Cashier's check or
> cash. No Paypal. Contact me at n9vx dot joe at gmail dot com
> 
> Thanks and 73,
> 
> Joe  N9VX
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 27
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 10:05:52 -0800
> From: Paul Saffren <pa...@elecraft.com>
> To: Ken Widelitz <widel...@gte.net>, elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - SVGA USB Serendipitous Solution
> Message-ID: <56a90700.7010...@elecraft.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> Yes, the USB keyboard is not active when not in data display mode. I 
> realize that folks are using the Genovation  keypad as means of 
> executing macros to control the K3 (and soon the P3), however the USB 
> keyboard port was designed for data.
> 
> -Paul
> 
> Paul Saffren - N6HZ
> Project Manager
> Elecraft Inc.
> www.elecraft.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 28
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 22:51:20 +0400
> From: a45wg <a4...@sy-edm.com>
> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests
> Message-ID: <3a7d2980-6c32-46be-a645-d85cab4da...@sy-edm.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Fellow Hams,
>             I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been marvelling 
> at it?s features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator - and them I 
> will hoist some Yagi?s up? but in the meantime - I am enjoying the awesome 
> RX/TX on this radio?.
> 
>    I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here) - on 
> CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some steerage/advice 
> regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can automate some of 
> the repetition of contest work ?. I fully understand and accept "DE TEST? is 
> not everyone?s cup of tea? But I enjoy it at times.
> 
>    It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW ? How 
> about Data Modes ??
> 
>    I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things simple. In 
> the ?old days? I used to use a SignaLink - which I found flexible and 
> worthwhile.
> 
> 
>    OS for PC:    
>            Linux or Mac - NOT Windows
> 
>    Many thanks for taking the time to read this
> 
> 
>    Regards
> 
>            Tim - A45WG
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 29
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:39:35 +0000 (UTC)
> From: David Kuechenmeister <n...@bellsouth.net>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] Digital Input Pin?
> Message-ID:
>    <237536816.1071367.1453923575164.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> I was looking for a way to automatically reduce power when operating on 
> batteries. It seems like another transceiver I once owned had a pin that, 
> when grounded would reduce output power to conserve batteries.
> I don't see any handy way to do this with the K3, other than crank down the 
> power...
> It looks like all the ACC pins are defined, so except for making one of them 
> a programmable I/O pin, I think I'm out of luck. Is there anyone else 
> interested in a programmable input pin that could be tied to a macro command?
> vy 73,Dave N4KD
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 30
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 11:50:56 -0800
> From: Rick Tavan <r...@tavan.com>
> To: a45wg <a4...@sy-edm.com>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests
> Message-ID:
>    <canvonajmosgu5wdrfpqe_0hhkqg_daz-j8usiok1pg6ii14...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> You need to consider several separate aspects of radio automation. Assuming
> you are operating with one radio, consider these:
> 
>   - Operating System: There are logging programs for Linux and MacOS but
>   your choices are much more limited than with Windows. When I switched from
>   Windows to MacOS, I tried Snookum Logger but found it primitive compared to
>   Windows offerings. There are other possibilities that I know nothing about.
>   At this point I run a virtual Windows machine on my Macbook Pro under
>   VMware Fusion. It's complicated but it works.
>   - Rig Control: Connect either an RS232 cable or USB cable from your
>   computer to the K3s. Tell your logging program the COM port number (or
>   identify the USB connection to MacOS) and characteristics (typically
>   38400-N-8-1) and then the logger will track the radio's frequency and mode.
>   You can also type in a frequency and most loggers will send the rig there.
>   Not all of them, though.
>   - CW Keying: Although you can key the K3s through the same serial port
>   that you use for rig control, I advise against it because unrelated load on
>   your computer can sometimes result in "stuttering" - poor keying. Instead,
>   I like to use an external keyer and the WinKeyer USB is a very good choice.
>   It connects to your computer via a USB cable, to your paddle and to the the
>   K3s Key In connector. It forms dots and dashes outside the computer and
>   works very well for both computer and manual sending. Some people prefer to
>   connect the paddle to the K3 PADDLE input to provide separate speed control
>   for manual and computer sending. (I use two paddles, one through the
>   external keyer and one direct to the K3.)
>   - Voice Messages: If you operate phone, you may want to automate contest
>   messages, especially CQ, Exchange and Thanks. If you have the K3s internal
>   voice keyer, you can use that, provided your logging program supports it.
>   If not, you can let your logger generate voice messages and transfer them
>   to the K3 via a sound card. It is best to use an external sound card rather
>   than the one inside the computer in order to avoid computer sound effects
>   getting transmitted. The Griffen iMic card is simple and inexpensive. (The
>   Asus Xonar family are more sophisticated and probably "better." I don't
>   have mine working yet.) There are dozens of alternatives. You can plug into
>   K3 Line In and leave your live microphone connected to front or rear MIC In
>   connectors.
>   - Data Modes: The quickest way to get here is to connect a pair of 3.5mm
>   phone cables between an external sound card and the K3 Line In and Line Out
>   connectors. Run AFSK or PSK with appropriate software. Many prefer FSK
>   which requires a cable from a serial port (or carefully chosen
>   USB-to-Serial adapter) to the FSK line on the K3 ACC connector. You can
>   also use a Signalink or other multi-function interface box, but it's not
>   required and won't be any simpler. It might save some cable swapping when
>   changing between voice and data modes, depending on the box and how you set
>   things up.
> 
> There are lots of "moving parts" and patience is a virtue. Consider the
> project of getting it all working to be part of your pursuit of ham radio.
> Take it one piece at a time and enjoy each individual success.
> 
> If you operate two radios (SO2R), it's more complicated. ;-)
> 
> GL & 73,
> 
> /Rick N6XI
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:51 AM, a45wg <a4...@sy-edm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Fellow Hams,
>>                     I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been
>> marvelling at it?s features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator -
>> and them I will hoist some Yagi?s up? but in the meantime - I am enjoying
>> the awesome RX/TX on this radio?.
>> 
>>        I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here)
>> - on CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some
>> steerage/advice regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can
>> automate some of the repetition of contest work ?. I fully understand and
>> accept "DE TEST? is not everyone?s cup of tea? But I enjoy it at times.
>> 
>>        It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for
>> CW ? How about Data Modes ??
>> 
>>        I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things
>> simple. In the ?old days? I used to use a SignaLink - which I found
>> flexible and worthwhile.
>> 
>> 
>>        OS for PC:
>>                        Linux or Mac - NOT Windows
>> 
>>        Many thanks for taking the time to read this
>> 
>> 
>>        Regards
>> 
>>                        Tim - A45WG
>> 
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