Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-17 Thread Bob McGraw
When you turn on your power supply and it shows 26 volts, are you going to turn on your radio?   Thus paying attention to the meters will protect your radio.   If when operating a contest for hours and you find the output drops off, wouldn't you glance at the meters? As to power distribution

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-17 Thread K8TE
Having meters will protect my radio? I doubt that assertion. Most radios today remain connected to their power supplies even when turned off, much like a computer. In the case of a K3, it is always connected to the power supply, even when off. So unless we don't connect the K3 to the power

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-17 Thread Phil Hystad via Elecraft
: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure > > All of my supplies have both voltage and current meters and they are in > a position I can see them when I turn them on. With supplies which do > not have meters, when one turns them on, you never kn

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-17 Thread Lyn Norstad
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:50 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure All of my supplies have both voltage and current meters

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-17 Thread Rick Bates, NK7I
I guess I'm fortunate, I've had Astrons running 24/7 for decades without any failure.  A 20A powers my repeater (IRLP node, 25 watt), a 35A power the Elecraft products and I just installed a 60A rack mount to replace them both (all are adjusted to 14.2 for spectral purity plus I can charge

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-17 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I have always been taught and thus have a concern when power supplies of excessive capacity are used for any type of service. If the wiring, in this case,  between the power supply and the radio is #12 or #14 of any length typically supplied by radio companies, should a short occur in the

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-17 Thread john
I also use an Astron RS-70 for my K3Ss. Like you, mine was not purchased for this purpose. It is under my desk so the physical size is not an issue and I have no worries about overloading it. John KK9A Barry w2up at comcast.net I got a kick out of "big hulking supply," too. I have an

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-17 Thread Barry
I got a kick out of "big hulking supply," too. I have an RS-70 on my K3. It used to power a lot more stuff, but since I downsized my station, it loafs along. Definitely overkill, but it sits under the desk, out of the way, so why not? Oh yeah, my keyer's on it, too, and still doesn't get warm,

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-16 Thread Gill via Elecraft
Hi David, I was a civilian Electrical Engineer with the US Army before the FAA stint. We absolutely required the components used in critical systems to be operated well below the "rated" thresholds. I did HV substation design for places such as Marshall Space Flight Center and Redstone Arsenal

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-16 Thread Mike K8CN
Ray, I reported to this forum (ca. February 2019) a similar, though not identical, problem involving my K3/10 while running from an Astron RS-20A supply. My problem occurred in receive mode rather than transmit mode, which made it a bit more difficult to understand because the current demand for

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-16 Thread EricJ
They are rarely operated 24/7, and they aren't usually supervised by career engineers. Most hams are relatively inexperienced hobbyists who may not recognize a problem until it is catastrophic. Someone in this thread already mentioned that nearly all ham shacks have a bad electrolytic lurking

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-16 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/K3S%20Owner's%20man%20A1.pdf > > > 73 > Frank > W3LPL > > > > - Original Message ----- > > From: "Ray Albers" > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 7:31:23 PM > Subject: [E

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-16 Thread lmarion
st one bad one under the bench. What destroyed the FAA is fanatical political correctness. 73 Leroy AB7CE -Original Message- From: Gill via Elecraft Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:19 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure As Harlan point

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-16 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
Hello Gill Doing reliability calculations to MIL 217 was very instructive many years ago and it taught me that operating well under the limits extended MTBF a lot. Some military customers instructed that specs were 60% or more degraded to achieve longer service life. What was your experience

[Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-16 Thread Gill via Elecraft
As Harlan pointed out - I was an engineer for the FAA until retirement - We changed electrolytics as part of normal PM's on critical systems usually every 5 years or so. CDE (Cornell Dubilier) indicates expected life (MTBF) of devices operated within rated voltage & temp specs to be about

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-15 Thread donovanf
al" ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/K3S%20Owner's%20man%20A1.pdf 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Ray Albers" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 7:31:23 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor fa

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-15 Thread Josh Fiden
Very short unless that was a design goal! It’s all about temperature. Operate an 85c electrolytic near 85c and it’s not going to be around long. 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Apr 15, 2020, at 1:09 PM, John Kosko wrote: > > Two to five year life span sounds a little short to

[Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-15 Thread John Kosko
Two to five year life span sounds a little short to me. I’ve been earning my primary income in electronics for over 60 years and my experience shows that most electrolytic capacitors last between ten and twenty years. But, usually they will show leakage around seals before they fail. I guess

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-15 Thread Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft
I retired in 2016 after 34 years as the metrology supervisor at a commercial nuclear power plant. I couldn’t count the number of equipment failures due to electrolytic capacitors, WAY TOO MANY. Some brands of equipment had high percentage failures while other brands had low. Seems the

Re: [Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-15 Thread Buck
I don't know that I would run a K3 off a 20A power supply. You're stressing both. Did you mean to say 30A? Buck, k4ia Honor Roll 8BDXCC EasyWayHamBooks.com On 4/15/2020 3:31 PM, Ray Albers wrote: I could use some knowledge and/or opinions on this subject (Radio/Elecraft related only because

[Elecraft] Electrolytic Capacitor failure

2020-04-15 Thread Ray Albers
I could use some knowledge and/or opinions on this subject (Radio/Elecraft related only because it deals with a power supply that powers a K3!) The other day I was about to initiate a call, and as soon as I touched the "dah" paddle the K3 instantly shut off. The cause was that the power supply