The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top
computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top computer
and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If anyone knows
differently, please let us in on the info.
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX
The closest thing I have found to real RS232 ports for laptops are the
Edgeport USB converters. I just treat them like a serial port and they seem
to work in every way like a real serial port. I use an 8 port in the shack
and a 4 when portable. Prices have gone up I hear,I paid about $70 for the
: Re: [Elecraft] Fake FTDI chips
The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top
computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top computer
and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If anyone knows
differently, please let us in on the info
Cookie,
There *are* good USB to serial adapters. Buy reputable brands from
reputable suppliers and you should not have a problem.
If you buy one that does not work, it should be returnable as defective
if the dealer is reputable.
The Elecraft KUSB uses a genuine FTDI chip, so that one should
Hello Don W3FPR,
I need to comment about reputable brands relative to
USB-to-serial-adapters.
Triplett-Keyspan is not reputable, in my opinion.
The story goes like this.
I have an AIM-4170 analyzer that needs a RS232 connection.
The AIM works when connected to a Dell desktop's RS232 port.
For
Hello Don,
With the serial cable, I can use a real serial port or a good USB to serial
adapter to
program my handheld.
I have to disagree with you. Yes, a RS-232 interface is the best choice, if you can use a
RS-232 interface at your computer. If not, also you will use an adapter. But what
But, if Elecraft had a USB port on the back of the K3, then _Elecraft_
would be the only one that had to worry about fake chips. The end user
would only have to supply a USB cable
73, Ross N4RP
On 4/14/2014 2:19 PM, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote:
Hello Don,
With the serial cable, I can use
But what is a RS-232 to USB adapter? Right, a chip from Prolific or
FTDI ( hopefully). Nobody is protected from a fake chip.
USB to RS-232 adapters are made by many vendors and may use chip sets
by suppliers other than Prolific or FTDI. For example, Digi
International uses their own Intel
Then _Elecraft_ would need to worry about continuously updated and
*signed* drivers for Windows (including Windows 95, 98, 2000 and XP
compatible drivers 15 year after the operating system is no longer
supported), OS-9, OS-X, and 57 varieties of LINUX.
Far better to stick with RS-232 and leave
Make it an Ethernet interface and then all kinds of nifty feature are available.
PEH's iPad
On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
Then _Elecraft_ would need to worry about continuously updated and
*signed* drivers for Windows (including Windows 95, 98,
On 4/14/2014 11:19 AM, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED wrote:
With the serial cable, I can use a real serial port or a good USB to
serial adapter to
program my handheld.
I have to disagree with you. Yes, a RS-232 interface is the best choice,
if you can use a RS-232 interface at your computer. If not,
Joe, I think you read Ross's post differently than intended. I don't
think Ross was suggesting that Elecraft do their own USB to RS232
converter chip or provide a native USB interface with custom Elecraft
drivers (although there would potentially be other advantages to a true
USB interface,
Sorry, but I've gotta call b*^@%^t on that one. Elecraft is already
SELLING a USB dongle that has a USB to serial chip in it. The same
drivers that work just fine with that chip in a dongle will work fine if
that chip is in a K3, neither the chip or the driver care where the chip
is mounted.
Chairman
K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
From: Ross Primrose n...@n4rp.com
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fake FTDI chips
But, if Elecraft had a USB port on the back of the K3
*From:* Ross Primrose n...@n4rp.com
*To:* Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
*Sent:* Monday, April 14, 2014 1:36 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Fake FTDI chips
But, if Elecraft had a USB port on the back of the K3, then _Elecraft_
would
No, John, I read Ross's post correctly. Even if Elecraft were to use
a known USB chip, they would still be stuck providing drivers for
obsolete operating systems long after the OS and chipset vendors stopped
supporting the chip set and OS simply because amateurs insist that every
product be
: [Elecraft] Fake FTDI chips
Make it an Ethernet interface and then all kinds of nifty feature are
available.
PEH's iPad
On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
Then _Elecraft_ would need to worry about continuously updated and
*signed* drivers for Windows
Whatever is the problem? I bought the adapter from Elecraft - thus
assuring me that it will work as it is supposed to. It works with
whatever computer I have plugged in at the time - running an old version
of HRD and the current stuff from Elecraft.
So far as supporting old OS? What for? As
Folks - Let's end this the Serial vs USB vs Ethernet thread(s) at this time in
the interest of improving the list signal-to-noise ratio for others.
Also, the Serial vs USB vs Ethernet threads are repeats of past discussions
here.
The list archive is your friend. :-) See:
Ethernet interface? USB has powering built in. Ethernet
doesn't.
73
Fred, AE6QL
-Original Message-
From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com
Sent: Apr 14, 2014 12:10 PM
To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fake
So far as supporting old OS? What for? As in: You are running a very
fine rig (K3), so I would assume a good (read as modern up-to-date)
computer is also used in the shack - hence no legacy issues.
What happens 10 years from now when you are still running your K3 with
the adapter you bought
Likely the point is:
* Many of us did not order the cable from
Elecraft. I had three already and they all
work fine with any of my computers (OS X 10.9,
Win 7, Win 8.1) and all work well with the K3
and it's line -- excepting the KX3 and KAT500
which have a non-DB9 connector.
*
On 4/14/2014 12:40 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote:
The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top
computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top
computer and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If
anyone knows differently, please let us in on
The only way I know to use a genuine RS-232 port is to use a desk top
computer with a plug in board. I would also like to use a lap-top
computer and as far as I know RS-232 ports are not available. If
anyone knows differently, please let us in on the info.
They are available using a
Real serial ports are available on the Dell D810. This will also run W7
32 bit without problems (at least none that I have found). I have used
it to program Motorola, Icom and Yaesu radios so far.
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Folks - we are exceeding the normal posting limit for this thread subject. Let's
let it rest for now.
73,
Eric
List Moderator, Modulator and Therapist..
elecraft.com
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On 4/14/2014 3:35 PM, Philip Carter wrote:
Real serial ports are available on the Dell D810. This will also run W7 32
bit
K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
From: Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fake FTDI chips
Likely the point is:
* Many of us did not order the cable from
It was only a matter of time before fake FTDI RS232-USB adapter chips
began to appear.
http://zeptobars.ru/en/read/FTDI-FT232RL-real-vs-fake-supereal
This fascinating page shows how some anonymous Chinese company has
created a fake FT232RL chip using a mask-programmable microcontroller,
and
?
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman
K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
From: Ian White gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:23 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Fake FTDI chips
It was only a matter of time before
Fake FTDI Prolific chips have been an issue for a long time. We all want
to save some money, but you spend lots of money one the best radio you can
afford. Why would you try to save a couple of $$ on the cable? I suggest
buying it from reputable dealers. Elecraft sells premade FTDI cables,
With all the attention to fake FTDI and Prolific chips, perhaps it is
time to go back to the RS-232 serial interface for consistency and
reliability.
I recently had an experience with a Woxoun handheld transceiver. After
upgrading to Windows 7, the USB cable I had for it did not work because
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