Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-27 Thread Ed Cole
Ham radio is a TECHNICAL hobby. We are required to pass an exam demonstrating that we understand the underlying principles, our privileges are based on our having that understanding, and it is our LAWFUL responsibility to transmit clean signals. A major problem is that many hams have never

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-27 Thread N4ST - Jim
:54 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8 AMEN! I am using my K3S and P3 to observe the signals. The antenna is a 4 ele yagi at 55 ft, fed with 75 ft of 1/2" Andrew hard-line. I agree with Jim, the ham community in general has been dumed down in order to pr

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-27 Thread Steve KC6ZKT
On 6/26/22 13:21, Jim Brown wrote: Ham radio is a TECHNICAL hobby. We are required to pass an exam demonstrating that we understand the underlying principles, our privileges are based on our having that understanding, and it is our LAWFUL responsibility to transmit clean signals. And yet,

[Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-27 Thread Bob McGraw
same thing is happening in our schools and colleges in order to get desired passing numbers. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 6/27/2022 1:39 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 4 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 13:21:51 -0700 From: Jim Brown To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day a

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Edward Mccann
Well stated Nate. As the Buddha said from his dying bed: “Strive on, untiringly.” I am tempted to add, there but for a mentor administering with grace, go us all. Ed McCann AG6CX > On Jun 26, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2022 26 Jun 17:18 -0500, Jim Rhodes wrote: >>

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2022 26 Jun 17:18 -0500, Jim Rhodes wrote: > They weren't only on digital modes like that. Plenty of "all knobs all the > way to the right" operators on phone too. Of course that is nothing new on > Field Day. I think there was at least one who didn't have the knob far enough to the right.

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread jerry
On 2022-06-26 12:48, Jim Brown wrote: I have zero interest in FT8 contesting. *** I have zero interest in FT8 in general...but contesting might be a good use case for it. Its weakness is that it doesn't allow chatting - the format is fixed. But contesting is like that anyway. Might be

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Logan R Zintsmaster
“But the knob goes to 11!” Logan KE7AZ Entropy is winning. > On Jun 26, 2022, at 3:26 PM, Eric Fitzgerald wrote: > > I noticed things got a bit worse as Field Day 2022 wore on. I wonder if, as > the batteries continued to discharge, the distortion products increased. > > Eric KG6MZS >

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Eric Fitzgerald
I noticed things got a bit worse as Field Day 2022 wore on.  I wonder if, as the batteries continued to discharge, the distortion products increased. Eric KG6MZS On 6/26/22 3:16 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote: They weren't only on digital modes like that. Plenty of "all knobs all the way to the right"

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Jim Rhodes
They weren't only on digital modes like that. Plenty of "all knobs all the way to the right" operators on phone too. Of course that is nothing new on Field Day. On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 3:08 PM Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote: > Hi Bob, > > I agree that there are a lot of improperly set up radios

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/26/2022 1:32 PM, Andy Durbin wrote: I have operated WSJT-X modes for many years HF-6 meters. I'm in a very large metro area with lots of active FT-8 users. I have learned that stations with perfect signals on the HF bands can show all sort of artifacts on 6 meters. For many of these

[Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Andy Durbin
I have operated WSJT-X modes for many years HF-6 meters. I'm in a very large metro area with lots of active FT-8 users. I have learned that stations with perfect signals on the HF bands can show all sort of artifacts on 6 meters. For many of these stations it is not because the signals are

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/26/2022 1:07 PM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote: I agree that there are a lot of improperly set up radios and improperly set up software programs on the bands! Ham radio is a TECHNICAL hobby. We are required to pass an exam demonstrating that we understand the underlying principles, our

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread David Decoons
A lot of hams have no clue on how to properly set TX gain on digital modes. There are so many variations of radios and interfaces that having a standard is almost impossible. I have seen signals so bad that I cannot even decode them. The K4 FT8 setup procedure is documented well. I would like

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Rick NK7I
Hi Bob, That almost has to be your set up (which radio?) to see so many issues;  over driven rx signal and/or audio levels, and/or the NB on with a harsh setting. I watched a little on HF over FD and didn't see any issues other than crowding more than usual (40 looked like 20).  There is

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
Hi Bob, I agree that there are a lot of improperly set up radios and improperly set up software programs on the bands! I operate mostly 6m and see that many people think that they can just connect the cables and start operating FT8 :-( FT8 is most certainly a very powerful innovation, and can

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/26/2022 12:26 PM, Bob McGraw wrote: Then I was off to 80M and 40M for a few FT-8 contacts. No different. WOW!  This is all very disappointing. I spent several hours on CW, playing with a K4 loaned from a neighbor on vacation. Very nice radio. I'm using it for K1JT modes on 6M. I have

[Elecraft] Field Day and FT-8

2022-06-26 Thread Bob McGraw
I operated FD from here at the house this weekend.  Most all of my FT-8 contacts were on 6M. I was appalled at the poor quality of many signals. Many show spurious every 1 kHz to 2 kHz either side of their primary signal.