Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod data cable

2019-08-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim, Refer to the K-Pod manual. You must cut one of the wires to use with the K-Pod. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/4/2019 5:55 PM, Jim N7US wrote: Is the K-Pod's data cable a standard data cable? I'd like to use one that is a bit longer than the stock cable so am wondering if I can just substitute a

[Elecraft] K-Pod data cable

2019-08-04 Thread Jim N7US
Is the K-Pod's data cable a standard data cable? I'd like to use one that is a bit longer than the stock cable so am wondering if I can just substitute a standard one. Jim N7US __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-17 Thread Lyle Johnson
The KPOD does not use I2C. It comes with a very short cable for good reasons. Increasing the length somewhat is probably OK. Increasing it a lot is probably a very bad idea. "Just because you can doesn't mean you should" comes to mind. 73, Lyle KK7P It is likely that the interface used

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Bill Frantz
I read "short distance..." after sending my stuff. I think you are correct about the I2C electrical connection, but I still think Elecraft needs a box to box communication protocol which allows multi-masters. USB would do, but probably isn't the only choice. Ethernet? There is a question of

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Wes Stewart
Bill, I dunno. I'm an RF guy and this uProcessor stuff makes my eyes glaze over. That said, your own reference says in part: "short-distance, intra-board communication." It seems to me that the problems seen are related to interconnections between the K3 and the K-Pod. And it seems the

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Bill Frantz
It is likely that the interface used by the K-Pod is the I2C bus , a very commonly used bus in the chip world. I use it to connect the real-time clock board to my BeagleBone Black board. I2C is a 2 way, multi-master bus protocol that might be ideal for

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I believe MCLR is used to put the PIC (microcontroller) into programming mode I'm an Atmel guy so I'm not much up on PICs From: Clay Autery <caut...@montac.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Wes Stewart
Hi Fred (I have one of your books BTW) Save your money. When I said. "As I've written before", what I had said earlier was: "I saw a similar problem. Only tapping a button appeared to send the command to the K3 but the K3 failed to respond. For example, I had my K-Pod set up to use a tap

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Clay Autery
That's the way to do it, Jim I spent some hours pouring over the docs and MCLR is NOT used in this implementation. 73, __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 1/16/2017 5:01 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > If I were to make up an extension using CAT5/6, I would

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Jean-François Ménard
You read my mind Jim! :-) :-) Best 73 de Jeff | VA2SS __ Jeff | VA2SS Jean-François Ménard jean-francois.men...@va2ss.com www.VA2SS.com Membre de / Member of : ARRL / AMSAT / QRP ARCI /

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Jim Brown
If I were to make up an extension using CAT5/6, I would use one pair for PGD, another for PGC, and the other two for VCC5, tying the four returns of each pair together and wiring it to Ground. I'm taking it for granted that MCLR is really unused. 73, Jim K9YC On Mon,1/16/2017 10:10 AM, Harry

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:59 PM To: NOEL POULIN Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable Yesterday I built a 5 foot long cable using 6P6C connectors and some telephone

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Bill Frantz
Yesterday I built a 5 foot long cable using 6P6C connectors and some telephone grade flat cable with pin 1 clipped at each end. (I identified which pin was #1 by measuring the Elecraft supplied cable.) It seems to work fine, but I haven't used it enough for those little hidden problems to

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
A little info for those wanting to make longer cables  As I understand it the Elecraft connector is a Modified MPLAB IDC 2 In-Circut Programming connector Here are the pin outs as I read them   1   Unused    - MCLR, Low to reset CPU   2   +5 vDC    - VCC5   3   Ground    - VSS   4   Data      -

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,1/16/2017 8:42 AM, Jean-François Ménard wrote: Experimentation here is the key…. an important part in our hobby. And also a knowledge of fundamental concepts. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Jim Brown
Another point. Ribbon cable is TERRIBLE for RFI susceptibility. Twisted pair is FAR superior IF each signals is on a pair. CAT5/6 is four tightly twisted pairs, 100 ohm impedance, each a different twist ratio to minimize crosstalk. I don't know anything about how the K-Pod uses that cable. For

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Jean-François Ménard
Hi, Unfortunately, something I did not mentioned in my previous post, it was implicite for me, but by using CAT6 cable, I was thinking about making our own cable and connectors to avoid using flat ribbon cable. The twisted part of the cable will improve communication reliability for sure.

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
an.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable Hello, Anybody in this group, using a different length data cable supplied with the k-pod??The cable uses two 6P6C modular male connectors, and requires 5 conductors.. Elecraft supplies a 36" long cable?? I would need longer cablebut wonde

Re: [Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Wes Stewart
On 1/16/2017 8:31 AM, Jean-François Ménard wrote: ... But in our case here, strong RF field is involved when transmitting, This is a station design problem beyond K-Pod wiring. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread Jean-François Ménard
Hi Noel Usually, such typical serial communication, like RS-232, could handle 15m with proper cable gauge and shielding. This cable has short transmission distance because of noise limiting the transmission of high numbers of bits per second. But in our case here, strong RF field is involved

[Elecraft] k-pod data cable

2017-01-16 Thread NOEL POULIN
Hello, Anybody in this group, using a different length data cable supplied with the k-pod??The cable uses two 6P6C modular male connectors, and requires 5 conductors.. Elecraft supplies a 36" long cable?? I would need longer cablebut wondering if the Pod will be working correctly??? Noel