[Elecraft] K3: switching on click -- One wonders...

2011-09-05 Thread Edward R. Cole
- KL7UW Message: 18 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 14:16:46 -1000 From: David Herring d...@ah6td.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click -- One wonders... To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: bf2d16a2-72fc-497b-a6bf-141e22ba9

[Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Stephen Prior
I think that this has been mentioned before, but the K3 has a pronounced turn on click through the loudspeaker. When connected to external speakers, the click is loud and out of character with the quality feel of the radio. It would be a good idea in my opinion if the audio output were to be

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Torrey Mitchell
: Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:13 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click I think that this has been mentioned before, but the K3 has a pronounced turn on click through the loudspeaker. When connected to external speakers, the click is loud and out of character with the quality feel

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Stephen Prior
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Prior Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 1:13 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click I think that this has been mentioned before, but the K3 has a pronounced turn on click

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
Torrey == Torrey Mitchell torr...@q.com writes: Torrey I near nothing but the soft mechanical click of a relay Torrey before the audio Torrey appears at the speakers. Mine was bought and built in June 2011. Torrey 73 Torrey N9PY mine briefly goes on tx (or maybe it's just

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Sam Morgan
maybe check the config cw wght tap 4 ... set to auto off keeps cw vox off on power up GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 9/4/2011 1:13 PM, Stephen Prior wrote: I think that this has been mentioned before, but the K3 has a pronounced turn on click through the loudspeaker. When connected to external

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Stephen Prior
Hi Sam That does make a difference, but there is still a pronounced series of clicks over the second or so it takes the K3 to boot up. Thanks for alerting me to that anyway. 73, Stephen On 4 September 2011 20:00, Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: maybe check the config cw wght tap 4 ...

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Sam Morgan
I hear clicks also but they are directly from the K3 like relays getting themselves set where they should be then I hear one pop from the amplified stereo computer speakers I have plugged into the stereo speaker jack in back GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 9/4/2011 2:06 PM, Stephen Prior wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hello Stephen and others On K3 turn on, I hear two clicks on the speaker before the display turns on (not the relay clicks). I also hear a click during K3 turning off, just when the display turns off. I agree with you, it is a stupid thing but they to not match with a superb radio. 73, EA4NZ

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Stephen Prior
I'm using amplified speakers too, and also plugged into the stereo speaker jack. I'm hearing far more than just one pop, but about 4 in total, one before the relays start switching and then the other pops/clicks over the next second or so, even with the AF gain on the radio turned down to

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Ramiro Aceves
oops, Forgot to say mine is SN 3757 73, EA4NZ (ex-EA1ABZ) El 04/09/11 21:23, Ramiro Aceves escribió: Hello Stephen and others On K3 turn on, I hear two clicks on the speaker before the display turns on (not the relay clicks). I also hear a click during K3 turning off, just when the

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Dick Roth
Just turned on my K3 (#859). Forty meters came up neat as you please with no pops or other nasty artifacts. It's connected to Bose Companion 3 Series 2. Just my 2 cents... -- 73 de Dick, ka1oz Elecraft K3/100 GAP Titan-DX Antenna On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 21:30 +0200, Ramiro Aceves wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Sam Morgan
please note the following is meant as a bit of humor a tongue in cheek JOKE if you will, on a slow list day NOT an attack on anyone! /rant on and all these annoying miscellaneous clicks and pops that are so indicative of the K3 being of such a poor quality radio are

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Stephen Prior
Sam, I'm guided by 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'. The K3 is one great radio, but the snap crackle and pop (even with the built-in speaker) put my teeth on edge, it's as simple as that. It's like a loud start-up rattle on an otherwise fine engine. If you haven't read the book,

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Robert Redmon
:13 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click I think that this has been mentioned before, but the K3 has a pronounced turn on click through the loudspeaker. When connected to external speakers, the click is loud and out of character with the quality feel of the radio

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
maybe check the config cw wght tap 4 ... set to auto off keeps cw vox off on power up Makes no difference and auto off is a flaming PITA! It means that the radio is never in the same state as the user left it - a major violation of the no unexpected behavior rule. 73, ... Joe, W4TV

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Richard Squire - HB9ANM
I wonder whether all this talk about snaps, crackles and pops is worth the bandwidth... I hear the relay clicks and one light pop on my s/n 586 too... So what? If Eric cares to comment, as someone said, I can imagine what he's going to say 73 Richard - Richard - HB9ANM -- View this message

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Mike
The external speakers have a pretty loud pop at power on. The headphones do not. K3 3539. 73, Mike NF4L On 9/4/2011 2:13 PM, Stephen Prior wrote: I think that this has been mentioned before, but the K3 has a pronounced turn on click through the loudspeaker. When connected to external

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Stephen, you are a saint! I'd have gone back with exactly what he deserved. I'm guided by 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'. The K3 is one great radio, but the snap crackle and pop (even with the built-in speaker) put my teeth on edge, it's as simple as that. It's like a loud

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click -- One wonders...

2011-09-04 Thread John Ragle
I run K3/100 Ser. No. 4103. It has a relay click on power on, but nothing from the speakers. Go figure... John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 9/4/2011 4:46 PM, Mike wrote: The external speakers have a pretty loud pop at power on. The headphones do not. K3 3539. 73, Mike NF4L On 9/4/2011 2:13

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Bill K9YEQ
-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Redmon Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 3:17 PM To: Torrey Mitchell Cc: 'Elecraft' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click Stephen, you make a valid point. I have external

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, If you are using amplified speakers, that difference is to be expected. I use unamplified speakers, and all that is heard is a muffled couple of pops - it is not in the range of anything annoying to me. You are hearing the large value capacitor in the AF output charge up (the capacitor

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Rick Prather
I hear (or heard) the same pops so I started turning the speakers after I turned on the radio and off before I turned it off. Doesn't seem like a major inconvenience to me. Rick K6LE On 9/4/2011, at 12:23 , Ramiro Aceves wrote: Hello Stephen and others On K3 turn on, I hear two clicks on

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click -- One wonders...

2011-09-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I suppose the click - or in my case a thump - depends on the timing of the mute signal from the controller and the value of the bypass capacitor on pin 8 of the speaker amplifier. The chip manufacturer recommends 10 uF for the bypass capacitor but I notice that Elecraft use 3.3 uF in the K3.

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click -- One wonders...

2011-09-04 Thread David Herring
Hi All! I know we've milked this one quite a bit, but I do have a point to make that I think will frame this power-on thump issue in a little better light... First off, I have K3 #3019 and there is a very detectable power-on AND power-off thump in the built-in speaker and in the cans. I don't

[Elecraft] Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Edward R. Cole
I have K3 #4340 (kit) which I purchased in spring 2010 and it has a LOUD POP at power up every time. I have it connected to an external speaker (plain speaker not an amplified one - ten inch diameter and probably 4-ohm resistance). I also note this in the internal speaker if not connected to

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Alan Slusher
K3 Serial 2554: K2 Serial 868. Very, very soft pops (start-up and shut-off) here on the K3; much softer than the pops on the K2. The pops on both radios (internal speaker or headphones) are considerably softer than the sound volume when signal reception starts. I do not have an external

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click -- One wonders...

2011-09-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Outside of my own equipment, I have worked mixing boards and commercial sound systems which all thumped on power-on/off. Some loud enough to nearly blow your hair off. I can think of a fair number of power amplifiers and mixing board monitor amplifiers that include *delay relays* in the

[Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread k7hbg @dslextreme.com
Oh, Too right Sam! I may be Ooold but not too crotchety (yet). 73 to all ! Bob K7HBG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Turn the K3 on THEN the speakers. - Original Message - From: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com To: Torrey Mitchell torr...@q.com Cc: 'Elecraft' Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click Stephen, you make a valid

Re: [Elecraft] K3: switching on click

2011-09-04 Thread Rick Prather
I hear (or heard) the same pops so I started turning the speakers after I turned on the radio and off before I turned it off. Doesn't seem like a major inconvenience to me. Rick K6LE On 9/4/2011, at 12:23 , Ramiro Aceves wrote: Hello Stephen and others On K3 turn on, I hear two clicks on