Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-28 Thread Fred Jensen
How do I set the AGC on my loose coupler receiver? :-) I'm old, but I've never used the RF Gain on my K3. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 10/28/2015 6:19 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: Don is absolutely correct. As

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-28 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Back in 1923, in order to receive a signal, the following adjustments must be made and possibly repeated to get the optimum performance (not a simple matter and easily upset): The input coil (inside box) is adjusted to resonate at the desired receiving frequency using the two tap selectors on

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-28 Thread David Woolley
Although I hadn't noticed it before, I would say that design in the K2 is more about stability and DC offsets than anything to do with pick up of the BFO. The balanced demodulator and last two crystals deal with that. The old, basically AM sets, used high level, unbalanced detectors. That

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, I do not understand your logic. Let's divorce the AGC from the product detector for a moment. The K2 takes the input to the AGC circuit from the IF and converts it to a frequency that is removed from the IF signal. The AGC circuit produces a DC voltage that is used to control the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-28 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Don is absolutely correct. As many may know, I do assist hams with issues associated with many different products here and elsewhere. The biggest issue I encounter is the ham that says " well somebody told me to blah blah blah blah ..and it would work best". In many cases, nothing

[Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Leroy Buller
Hi guys Old topic from a Old Newbie. I have been fooling around with PSK 31 and I have it set up and working but I do have a question. Do most ops using this mode turn off the AGC and then ride the RF gain control because of the stronger signals in the band pass killing off the weaker

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Lee, I do not turn off the AGC, but instead use the filters to isolate the signal of interest with the Width and Shift controls in the event that a strong signal is monopolizing the waterfall. Yes, you can do it your way, but I believe my way will allow you to copy weaker signals easily.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Wes (N7WS)
I only work PSK on occasion. I do work a lot of RTTY tho...like V73D on 10M about 5 min ago. I never turn AGC off on any mode. Never understood why anyone would want to but I've only been licensed for 57 years, so maybe I missed something. On 10/27/2015 3:32 PM, Leroy Buller wrote: Hi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Rick WA6NHC
What Don says, plus if you're using a sound card interface (any flavor) to decode the digital, keep the LIN OUT low (mine is set to 1, zero is off) THEN keep the audio as light as possible (driver software) into the computer decoder. What you want is to NOT let the sound card AGC get

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Bill Frantz
When I was using a SignaLink, I used the RF gain control to keep strong signals from overloading the input to the computer. I would also use the Shift and Width controls to isolate a signal, and got a 250 Hz filter to help. Dropping the RF gain control until the band noise almost disappeared

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread David Cole
I also run with no AGC... It makes a major difference in how the data is copied... -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net For MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info For Dopplergram information see:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
I do run a fair amount of PSK-31 and much enjoy the same. In that regard I always run AGC-F. For selectivity, in dealing with strong signals in the midst of weak signals, I shift the passband and tighten the bandwidth as needed.RF gain is always adjusted based on band noise such that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Frank Precissi
I run the K3 with AGC-Off in all digital modes and rely on the roofing/DSP filters to edge out really strong signals. Most of the time the software will compensate in pulling the weak signals out of the mud a lot better than your rig making them louder. I would suggest playing with each setting

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,10/27/2015 3:50 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: I never turn AGC off on any mode. Never understood why anyone would want to but I've only been licensed for 57 years, so maybe I missed something. I started three years before you, so maybe I remember more from back then. :) In those older days,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
ber 27, 2015 6:02 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC On Tue,10/27/2015 3:50 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: > I never turn AGC off on any mode. Never understood why anyone would > want to but I've only been licensed for 57 years, so maybe I missed > some

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK31 - AGC/No AGC

2015-10-27 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Yes but... Those receivers didn't have product detectors and BFO leakage into the AGC detector was an issue. .On 10/27/2015 6:01 PM, Jim Brown wrote: In those older days, it was quite common for CW ops to turn down the RF gain and turn up the AF gain. In effect, this more or less