Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-29 Thread Bill Breeden
Dave, I have 200 Hz and 400 Hz filters in my K3. My K3 copies RTTY fine through the 200 Hz filter. That being said, I normally use the 400 Hz filter unless the band is crammed with signals during a contest. The 200 Hz filter also reduces a the apparent signal to noise ratio between my ears

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-29 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
My K3 copies RTTY fine through the 200 Hz filter. This is much like the old ads I worked 150 countries with my Gotham vertical ... When one tries to pass a FSK signal through a too narrow filter it doesn't just stop working. However, the tight skirts of the filter cause the energy in the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-29 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/29/2013 6:25 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: My K3 copies RTTY fine through the 200 Hz filter. This is much like the old ads I worked 150 countries with my Gotham vertical ... When one tries to pass a FSK signal through a too narrow filter it doesn't just stop working. However, the tight

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-29 Thread Carl Clawson
My first thought on seeing that was If that filter is such a great idea, wouldn't it be built into the RTTY demodulator to begin with? 73, Carl WS7L On Friday, November 29, 2013, Jim Brown wrote: Thus, I was quite wary of using the double humped response provided by the K3.

[Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-27 Thread Dave Barr
Which two of the 200/250/400 and 500 hz filters are best for digital use, primarily RTTY, both contests and dx. I understand that for JT-65 and PSK the standard ssb filter, or even the AM filter is useable. I am concerned that the 200 hz might be too narrow for RTTY. I work some CW but

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I am concerned that the 200 hz might be too narrow for RTTY. The 200 Hz filter is too narrow (mine measure about 190 Hz at -6dB). The 250 Hz filter - nominally 370 Hz at -6dB - is a good match to the minimum necessary bandwidth for MMTTY, 2-Tone, etc. to function well (particularly if the DSP

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-27 Thread Bill Frantz
I have a 250 Hz filter I use for PSK and RTTY. It helps when there is a strong nearby station that overloads the AtoD converter between the K3 and my computer. During a RTTY contest, I found it helped, but the dual frequency DSP RTTY filter was more than enough for most contacts. When I use

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-27 Thread Mike Harris
I work quite a bit of RTTY and have 223 DXCC using only the stock 2k7Hz filter squeezed down to 2k0 with DSP for general tuning and running the split channel on a DXped. The 500hz five pole is used for the DX station and if I'm handing out a few points in an RTTY contest and need to suppress

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for digital work

2013-11-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
IMHO, RTTY is like AM -- a classic mode which uses more bandwidth than necessary, but is nice to keep around for nostalgia and to relive history. RTTY is not like AM in using more bandwidth than necessary. *ANY* FSK signal will have a minimum bandwidth (as defined by ITU) of (1.2 * shift +